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    Re: Democrats propose free college tuition and debt forgiveness!

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    I have no idea what you just said. Try fewer buzzwords and talk like a person.
    Harvard still gets government grants even though it has tens of billions of dollars in the bank and pays some of its teachers outrageous sums of money for doing very little work in return. Warren was getting paid something like $6,000 per week to teach just one class.

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    Re: Democrats propose free college tuition and debt forgiveness!

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    Harvard still gets government grants even though it has tens of billions of dollars in the bank and pays some of its teachers outrageous sums of money for doing very little work in return. Warren was getting paid something like $6,000 per week to teach just one class.
    ok, so?

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    Re: Democrats propose free college tuition and debt forgiveness!

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    If the government has unlimited money then why not just give low IQ citizens plenty of money to live comfortably for the rest of their lives and let them forget college?
    We are already doing that via the many federal "safety net" programs.
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    Re: Democrats propose free college tuition and debt forgiveness!

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    How exiting! The new wave of democrat morons running for president have proposed bankrupting the American economy by stupidly abolishing student loan debts and paying excessively high priced college tuition for everyone. What a boon for democrat college administrators and officials. I see huge bonuses and higher salaries and benefits for everyone in the education business, thanks to democrats.

    I also see the massive increase of fiscal stupidity exposed in these new dummies ideas being promoted by the new wave of moronic democrat politicians.

    Student loan experts sound alarm on 'trillion-dollar blackhole'
    This is nothing but the Democrats trying to buy the youth vote, using promises they cannot keep. It is like lounge lizards picking up girls in a bar with promise he can't keep. However, it is also good experiment to see if college education builds common sense and the ability to think, or whether college is a waste of brain cells. Let us see if the youth can figure this out.

    Firstly, there is a process in place that has to happen before anything becomes law. There is the House, Senate and President. There is no magic wand, as is being sold by the Democrats; poof free college! Many ducks have to be in a row for this to happen, including getting the Republicans and lobbyists on board. That means there will be bottlenecks and delays at many levels, making this very unlikely to happen any time soon.

    The question becomes what percent of the college bound and college educated youth will figure out reality? If it is too small a percent, then this will never happen, since why would we spend tax payer money to make the young people dumber? We had the collusion delusion this is the free education delusion. Memorizing self serving party line is not the same as understanding.

    A better and more practical solution is to force colleges to lower tuition costs. If you do the math, the colleges made all the money, that this is now called the black hole of student debt. The $Trillions of dollars in student debt is like a big hole in the ground. All the dirt from that hole is now a large pile of cash at the universities. That is where the money went. This is why Big U can afford to pay Senator Warren $5000/hr to teach a class. Why not prevent the colleges from strip mining the students, and creating large holes of student debt? This approach is more likely to happen, since the tax payer is not being extorted for something they did not do, so the rich colleges get to keep their huge piles of cash growing.

    Another approach is tax universities, and use that tax money to pay down the student debt. This does not penalize the tax payer, but only goes ofter those who have enriched themselves at the expense of the children.

    To put this in perspective, if Big Oil raised oil prices each year, and forced US families into $trillions in debt, would we let big oil keep this cash cow going? Would we then use big government to tax the people, to bail out the people? Or would we regulate Big Oil? Why are we letting Big U screw the students, since all this student debt can be traced back to Big U? Students need to use some common sense. The students remain slaves to Big U via the debt. That is a Democrat scam, since they run Big U.
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    Re: Democrats propose free college tuition and debt forgiveness!

    Quote Originally Posted by wellwisher View Post
    To put this in perspective, if Big Oil raised oil prices each year, and forced US families into $trillions in debt, would we let big oil keep this cash cow going? Would we then use big government to tax the people, to bail out the people? Or would we regulate Big Oil? Why are we letting Big U screw the students, since all this student debt can be traced back to Big U? Students need to use some common sense. The students remain slaves to Big U via the debt. That is a Democrat scam, since they run Big U.
    Here is the real irony. In California the reason gas is so expensive is because of the state itself.

    A mandated "California only" blend adds extra cost, and if demand is higher than expected the price increases drastically since the gas companies can not just substitute gas intended for another area of the country. Then add to that the 47.5 cents per gallon tax, and that it is then taxed at an additional 7.25% for state sales tax (including the previous taxes, which are taxed again). Then you can also add in city and county taxes in certain areas.

    Seeing people bitch about gas hitting $2.25 in Florida recently made me laugh, as out here in the People's Republic of California we were already paying double that.

    And the delicious irony of Government, the Governor enacted a special commission to investigate why gas in California is so expensive! Well gee, maybe if you eliminated half of those taxes, went to a flat sales tax, and removed the special blend mandate our gas prices would be close to say Oregon.

    Which ironically used to have the most expensive gas in the area, since there is no "Self-Service". I remember I used to fill up before crossing into Oregon, because gas in California was cheaper. Now it is cheaper to have somebody to pump my gas in Oregon than it is to pump my own in California.
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    Re: Democrats propose free college tuition and debt forgiveness!

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    We are already doing that via the many federal "safety net" programs.
    Democrats seem to think that since the government is already giving trillions of dollars away then giving a few dozen more trillions away should be no problem.

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