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    Re: How to Become a Skilled Tradesperson

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Lawyers and doctors are paid for effort, you're paid for results because you have no excuse to fail.
    Try tearing out a gravity furnace and put in all new ductwork.Talk about an effort.

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    Re: How to Become a Skilled Tradesperson

    Quote Originally Posted by gulfman View Post
    Try tearing out a gravity furnace and put in all new ductwork.Talk about an effort.
    Are you comparing that to surgery?

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    Re: How to Become a Skilled Tradesperson

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    And cannot pass a drug test!
    Yes, thatís a big one. Which equates to, grow the Phoc up! They say young kids canít buy a house, or afford to move out from the parents home, I call bull****! I had three jobs and moved out at 19...pick ya up a trade and earn great money! Blue collar keeps America going.

    ...and donít forget to Vote!

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    Re: How to Become a Skilled Tradesperson

    There are many trades jobs out there. I taught building trades at a local vo-tech program for several years. What you need to understand is that these aren't "grease monkey" jobs anymore. They pay very well because they are almost all high tech to some degree. Auto mechanics is much more computer and electronics oriented than ever in history. So is machine shop. So is welding. So is heating and air HVAC. You name the trade; it's no place for dummies anymore. Many college grads, and I had some, can't master the trade.

    I went by the 1/3 rule. 1/3 of my students would do very well, and get great jobs. 1/3 might do well, but wouldn't really get hired by first class companies. And the bottom 1/3, well......back to pushing carts at Walmart.

    The number one behavioral problem these young people exhibited (some of them) wasn't being lazy or not willing to work. It was they couldn't get along with their fellow workers. Or they said in-appropriate things at all the wrong times. Or they didn't like getting bossed around. I heard that one a lot. Some foremen can be pretty gruff. Most people can deal with it when they're pulling down $70K - $100K a year. Some can't.

    But the old days of butt crack plumbers are over. The trades is about as difficult as any college program.

    BTW: My last 7 years before retirement was as a college professor. Some of my trades students were smarter than my college students.

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    Re: How to Become a Skilled Tradesperson

    Quote Originally Posted by gulfman View Post
    A lot of them can't be filled because today's younger people have no work ethic.They are lazy and unmotivated.
    I don't know how old you are gulfman.... but I think you'd have to be pretty damn old to come from the generation when the older folks weren't using the exact same language about the up-and-coming generation coming of age.
    "He who knows, does not speak. He who speaks, does not know." --- Lao Tzu

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