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The slang word 'fu*k'

Evilroddy said:
F*ck is a very old word, first appearing in English text in court records from 1310. The word f*ck came into more common use in the 16th Century in England. However its origins are ancient with parallel cognates in many Germanic languages and possibly goes back to ancient Aryan Indo-European.

The Random House Historical Dictionary of American Slang (Random House, 1994, ISBN 0-394-54427-7) cites examples like Middle Dutch "fokken" = “to thrust, copulate with”; Norwegian dialect "fukka" = “to copulate”; and Swedish dialect "focka" = “to strike, push, copulate” and fock = “penis”. Although German "ficken" may enter the picture somehow, it is more problematic and thus less reliably linked to the modern English word "f*ck".

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
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I had always heard that the Swedish definition was the end all/be all for the etymology of ****. The "carnal knowledge" and "consent of the King" was urban legend, from what I've read. It has a root, and is not an acronym.

I read a lot about this because I like to know what I am talking about when someone asks me why I use such bad language.

Swear words are social constructs. We made them up, and then we decided we shouldn't say them.

I say what I want, when I want. Except in front of my religious mom. :lol: I do that out of respect for her.
 
soylentgreen said:
So basically your answer is that you were told it is a sin and need not really think for yourself on the matter. And then use the weak excuse of pretending anyone who swears must also sin to justify your belief.

As i thought, there is no real harm in the word there is just a prudish affectation that allows one to feel superior.
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Profaneness commonly does and loves to cluster with other sins. — Samuel H. Cox, American theologian

Harvey Weinstein was already known as a cursing blowhard before he was exposed as a rapist.
 
Superfly said:
I had always heard that the Swedish definition was the end all/be all for the etymology of ****. The "carnal knowledge" and "consent of the King" was urban legend, from what I've read. It has a root, and is not an acronym.

I read a lot about this because I like to know what I am talking about when someone asks me why I use such bad language.

Swear words are social constructs. We made them up, and then we decided we shouldn't say them.

I say what I want, when I want. Except in front of my religious mom. :lol: I do that out of respect for her.
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So you can restrain yourself out of respect for your mother but you cannot restrain yourself out of respect for anyone else.
 
The f... word is a lexicographical Swiss Army Knife, a universal admonishment, whose meaning is internationally recognised in any language. If you're standing in Lhasa Airport at 3am on Christmas morning waiting for your delayed plane, when you notice a chap with a shaven head and saffron robes messing with your luggage, all you need to do is shout "Hey! You! F... off!"
And off he will F....
(apologies to Sir Billy Connolly)
 
Fokker in Dutch means breeder. A hondenfokker is a dog breeder.
 
RobertU said:
Profaneness commonly does and loves to cluster with other sins. — Samuel H. Cox, American theologian

Harvey Weinstein was already known as a cursing blowhard before he was exposed as a rapist.
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It is still just association you are making. Now it appears that people who swear are likely to be rapists. Can you actually identify the cause between rape and swearing?
 
RobertU said:
Profaneness commonly does and loves to cluster with other sins. — Samuel H. Cox, American theologian

Harvey Weinstein was already known as a cursing blowhard before he was exposed as a rapist.
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RobertU:

Correlation does not necessarily mean causation. I know plenty of very moral people who swear like longshoremen when vexed or frustrated. Rape is driven by power issues mixed with sex-drive, swearing has little to do with power nor sex-drive in most cases.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 
People who lack self-control in their language will likely lack self-control in some other aspect of their life. We have observed, for example, that incidents of road rage are usually accompanied by drivers hurling profanities at each other. No self-control in language, no self-control behind the wheel.
 
RobertU said:
People who lack self-control in their language will likely lack self-control in some other aspect of their life. We have observed, for example, that incidents of road rage are usually accompanied by drivers hurling profanities at each other. No self-control in language, no self-control behind the wheel.
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Pompous nonsense. People can be selective in their use of swearing. It's often a release of tension and stress, and a judicious swearword can get things done. Someone did a movie polemic about the f-bomb.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/****_(film)

The link's messed up by the site censorship. just type in the missing word.
 
RobertU said:
People who lack self-control in their language will likely lack self-control in some other aspect of their life. We have observed, for example, that incidents of road rage are usually accompanied by drivers hurling profanities at each other. No self-control in language, no self-control behind the wheel.
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What makes you think using profanity is a lack of self control? I mean besides your rather biased use of examples.
 
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