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Prof calls conservative students a "racist mob"

Grand Mal said:
Wake them up. Tell them the truth.
Why do conservatives all, and I mean all, whinge about how the education system is run by liberals? Long as we're focusing on anecdotes, individual examples, why haven't you stepped into a role in a university and set the record straight? Why don't conservatives get involved in the education system? Do they expect that liberals will continue to dominate academia but will teach from a conservative perspective?
Damn. The right whinge. Liberals control the education system, they control the media, they control the entertainment industry, here's a question- when the Republican Party controls the White House, the Senate, the House, most of the
Governors mansions and most of the State legislatures, why are conservatives crying about what liberals control? What do you want, the world on a platter?
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An education system free of politics and racist drivel would be nice.
 
Slingshot Bob said:
An education system free of politics and racist drivel would be nice.
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Eeeyep. And free of legislated ignorance. Can we start with not teaching creationism in public schools? I know that's not a liberal thing, but could that be the starting point?
 
Grand Mal said:
Eeeyep. And free of legislated ignorance. Can we start with not teaching creationism in public schools? I know that's not a liberal thing, but could that be the starting point?
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Pretty sure the vast majority don't. Maybe a %age in the bible belt. I am 37 and I cant remember being taught about it in school.
 
Slingshot Bob said:
Pretty sure the vast majority don't. Maybe a %age in the bible belt. I am 37 and I cant remember being taught about it in school.
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Pretty sure you're right, and the vast majority don't teach creationism but some do and my point was that conservative values are taught in public schools throughout much of America. And where they're not, where liberal values dominate the curriculum, don't you need to ask what's wrong with the conservatives instead of complaining about what the liberals do?
Why, I'm asking, don't conservatives make their voices heard? Why do they just complain about the liberal voices?
 
Grand Mal said:
Pretty sure you're right, and the vast majority don't teach creationism but some do and my point was that conservative values are taught in public schools throughout much of America. And where they're not, where liberal values dominate the curriculum, don't you need to ask what's wrong with the conservatives instead of complaining about what the liberals do?
Why, I'm asking, don't conservatives make their voices heard? Why do they just complain about the liberal voices?
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They are making their voices heard. That is why these racist types are being outed.
 
Slingshot Bob said:
They are making their voices heard. That is why these racist types are being outed.
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Sorry, I was unclear.
Why are universities exclusively liberal domains? At least, that's what I'm hearing here. Universities are liberal bastions, university instructors are liberal apparatchiks and university students are liberal activists. So, where are the conservative professors? Where are the conservative intelligentsia? Where are the conservative educators?
Why do liberals own the universities?
 
Grand Mal said:
Sorry, I was unclear.
Why are universities exclusively liberal domains? At least, that's what I'm hearing here. Universities are liberal bastions, university instructors are liberal apparatchiks and university students are liberal activists. So, where are the conservative professors? Where are the conservative intelligentsia? Where are the conservative educators?
Why do liberals own the universities?
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That is a matter of great debate, and of great concern, for the last of the wise men and women.....How did this happen, and how can we fix it before this nation explodes.
 
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Grand Mal said:
Sorry, I was unclear.
Why are universities exclusively liberal domains? At least, that's what I'm hearing here. Universities are liberal bastions, university instructors are liberal apparatchiks and university students are liberal activists. So, where are the conservative professors? Where are the conservative intelligentsia? Where are the conservative educators?
Why do liberals own the universities?
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There are some, just vastly outnumbered. If those in charge of hiring are liberals (I suspect that is the case, by and large) Then they would hire a few tokens, but make sure the majority stayed of a single lean.
 
You guys remember when we were all talking about right wing racists wanting to speak at liberal universities? And how much the right wingers were all "free speech". And even though, the students didnt invite them, the universities didnt want them, and they were only doing it to provoke riots. We all had to listen to the bull**** about it doesnt matter what the person is saying, they have the right to say it without being harrassed and intimidated.

What happened there guys? You only believe that when the racism is directed at immigrants?
 
Hawkeye10 said:
That is a matter of great debate, and of great concern, for the last of the wise men and women.....How did this happen, and how can we fix it before this nation explodes.
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Fix it? As in, conservatives control the education system? God help us all.
 
Grand Mal said:
Fix it? As in, conservatives control the education system? God help us all.
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The full debate conducted by the best minds without reservation and in an atmosphere of civility is what is needed if we are going to have any chance of preventing the complete collapse of the West, and subjugation by the East.
 
Slyfox696 said:
One person saying stupid things does not equal indoctrination. Otherwise, this thread would be a clear example of an attempt to indoctrinate.

But, again, thank you for admitting all white people are racist, including me. Because, clearly, nothing can go wrong when we use the actions of one to describe hundreds of thousands.
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The fact that he wasn't fired for his racist comments points to a system that promotes racism. Is that something that you're OK with?
 
Slingshot Bob said:
There are some, just vastly outnumbered. If those in charge of hiring are liberals (I suspect that is the case, by and large) Then they would hire a few tokens, but make sure the majority stayed of a single lean.
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Okay, I guess. You're presuming that the political lean of a teaching applicant would be a thing, or even be evident. Let's make an example. A professor of languages has an opening for an instructor of Russian. Does she look into the background of applicants to see who's acceptably liberal? Or a chemistry professor who needs someone to teach laboratory procedure. Or an English Lit. professor looking for a Medievalist. Or a dean of mathematics, are they all looking for liberals? Or are there just no conservatives in the field?
 
Grand Mal said:
Okay, I guess. You're presuming that the political lean of a teaching applicant would be a thing, or even be evident. Let's make an example. A professor of languages has an opening for an instructor of Russian. Does she look into the background of applicants to see who's acceptably liberal? Or a chemistry professor who needs someone to teach laboratory procedure. Or an English Lit. professor looking for a Medievalist. Or a dean of mathematics, are they all looking for liberals? Or are there just no conservatives in the field?
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I think I see where you are going with this, Liberals are the academic type? In todays age, a potential employer could likely ascertain a potential hires lean by simply looking at social media.

Granted, this is just my speculation but seems rather likely. The seeming scarcity of conservatives in the field is not just because liberals tend to be more intellectual.
 
Slingshot Bob said:
Making a living race pimping. Our universities no longer offer actual education, they are now little more than left wing indoctrination centers, for the most part.
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That is a common misconception. Universities are corporate machines. They train people to fit into a institutional systems which are fundamentally anti-democratic. No one is taught to question corporate or private tyranny. You cannot get that in schools. I only heard one professor ever even mention socialist theorists, and non but a few history professors even touch on Anarchism. Those are fundamental leftist theories.

Colleges do not talk about leftism. They are state funded and state oriented machines built to keep labor docile.
 
faithful_servant said:
The fact that he wasn't fired for his racist comments points to a system that promotes racism. Is that something that you're OK with?
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It's quite clear the system promotes racism. Trump is President.
 
Slingshot Bob said:
That is a great idea for your own thread.
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I just find it ironic that people can be up in arms over bigotry from a minority, but are not so vocal about bigotry from the most powerful white man on earth. Seems like one should focus on the bigger fish.
 
BreadConqueror said:
I just find it ironic that people can be up in arms over bigotry from a minority, but are not so vocal about bigotry from the most powerful white man on earth. Seems like one should focus on the bigger fish.
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I find it ironic that some people use whataboutism rather than stay on topic. Look over there>

Let us know when Trump tells blacks "stay in your place".
 
Slingshot Bob said:
I find it ironic that some people use whataboutism rather than stay on topic. Look over there>

Let us know when Trump tells blacks "stay in your place".
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Trump has a Permanent Record of spending time with blacks on purpose, and liking it, A LOT.

Not everyone can say that.
 
faithful_servant said:
The fact that he wasn't fired for his racist comments points to a system that promotes racism. Is that something that you're OK with?
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1) The article just came out yesterday. I don't know when the speech occurred (I didn't see it noted), but if the speech was delivered yesterday, there would not have been time to fire him yet.

2) While his comments were stupid, racist and offensive, they never (based on what I saw) crossed over to promoting violence. This is important because Florida Gulf Coast University is a public university and public schools have a very fine line they can tread. If they were to fire him based on his political speech, the professor very well could have a 1st Amendment complaint/lawsuit against the university. So if the university DOES wish to fire him, they wouldn't do it yet, they'd likely do it at the end of the year and not retain him.

3) I disagree strongly with the idea his speech promotes racism in the system. He promoted racism as an individual, but as I said to another in this thread, this one person does not represent a system or the hundreds of thousands of others in it.
 
Slyfox696 said:
1) The article just came out yesterday. I don't know when the speech occurred (I didn't see it noted), but if the speech was delivered yesterday, there would not have been time to fire him yet.

2) While his comments were stupid, racist and offensive, they never (based on what I saw) crossed over to promoting violence. This is important because Florida Gulf Coast University is a public university and public schools have a very fine line they can tread. If they were to fire him based on his political speech, the professor very well could have a 1st Amendment complaint/lawsuit against the university. So if the university DOES wish to fire him, they wouldn't do it yet, they'd likely do it at the end of the year and not retain him.

3) I disagree strongly with the idea his speech promotes racism in the system. He promoted racism as an individual, but as I said to another in this thread, this one person does not represent a system or the hundreds of thousands of others in it.
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This class started in early February.
Why I Teach a Course Called ?White Racism? by Ted Thornhill ? YES! Magazine
 
faithful_servant said:
Could you post some more hate, please? We haven't seen enough this week and I'm beginning to miss it...
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You should follow Trump on twitter if you want that. You won't find it from me. I haven't the time to hate.
 
The entire republican party campaigns on hateful rhetoric, they spread lies, they make dickish comments and are cheered on by thousands, and hardly ever repudiated by most conservatives.

And then have the nerve to pretend outrage and play the victim when they dig through the internet to find a liberal bad apple? A person that most liberals will in fact repudiate for making such stupid comments. And they want to pretend "both sides" are the same?
 
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