A Journal Article Provokes Death Threats

Jack Hays · Oct 10, 2017

We protect free scholarly inquiry in this country, until we don't. My point is not to defend the article in question, but it's a sad day when death threats cause a retraction.

“Credible threats of personal violence” against editor prompt withdrawal of colonialism paper

with 8 comments

A journal has withdrawn an essay that called for a return to colonialism after the editor received alleged threats tied to the article.
Soon after Third World Quarterly published the controversial essay, readers began to object. When the journal defended its decision, 15 editorial board members resigned in response. More than 10,000 people signed a petition to have it retracted. On September 26, the publisher posted a statement — including a detailed timeline of the paper’s peer review process — and said the the author had requested to withdraw the article. However, in the statement, the publisher said that “peer-reviewed research articles cannot simply be withdrawn but must have grounds for retraction.”
The journal has since changed its position, and withdrawn the paper entirely from its site, posting this notice in its place:
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Jetboogieman · Oct 10, 2017

People that make death threats are idiots... but you can’t control the actions of every person and how theyll react to something so offensive.

People who advocate returnin to colonialism are themselves advocating for mass death and horrible human suffering, things colonialism caused, it’s bound to cause a few people to react very strongly.

Hawkeye10 · Oct 10, 2017

This is not new.....at least back to the 1970's science has wilted in the face of pressure from the feminists, and we have long known what happens to scientists who speak inconvenient truth on subjects such as race or gender. I stopped being a Liberal back in the late 80's because I way too often ran across them saying "Dont talk about that, that would not be productive" by which they meant "This truth harms the selling of the story we are trying to sell, knock it off!" .

I count not, would not, deal with the stench.

Now it this is everywhere.

joG · Oct 10, 2017

Jack Hays said:
We protect free scholarly inquiry in this country, until we don't. My point is not to defend the article in question, but it's a sad day when death threats cause a retraction.

“Credible threats of personal violence” against editor prompt withdrawal of colonialism paper

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We are becoming ever more politically correct.

joG · Oct 10, 2017

Jetboogieman said:
People that make death threats are idiots... but you can’t control the actions of every person and how theyll react to something so offensive.

People who advocate returnin to colonialism are themselves advocating for mass death and horrible human suffering, things colonialism caused, it’s bound to cause a few people to react very strongly.

Are youbsure that the people in Somalia say would be worse off in a well run colony? Or the folks in Syria. You think time under UN or French rule would have been worse than under the Assads?

Jetboogieman · Oct 10, 2017

joG said:
Are youbsure that the people in Somalia say would be worse off in a well run colony? Or the folks in Syria. You think time under UN or French rule would have been worse than under the Assads?

It is the legacy of colonialism that many of these places are the way they are so no, no I don’t think so joG, but as you’ve recently blamed rape victims it’s unsurprising you’re condoning the rape of a country and their resources.

Jack Hays · Oct 10, 2017

joG said:
Are youbsure that the people in Somalia say would be worse off in a well run colony? Or the folks in Syria. You think time under UN or French rule would have been worse than under the Assads?

Jetboogieman said:
It is the legacy of colonialism that many of these places are the way they are so no, no I don’t think so joG, but as you’ve recently blamed rape victims it’s unsurprising you’re condoning the rape of a country and their resources.

No, in many cases it's not "the legacy of colonialism" that's the problem. It's the destruction of facilities and institutions created under the colonial regimes. I spent decades in the post-colonial Third World. I don't advocate reintroducing colonialism, but I met a surprising number of Africans who said they would welcome it.

Jetboogieman · Oct 10, 2017

Jack Hays said:
No, in many cases it's not "the legacy of colonialism" that's the problem. It's the destruction of facilities and institutions created under the colonial regimes. I spent decades in the post-colonial Third World. I don't advocate reintroducing colonialism, but I met a surprising number of Africans who said they would welcome it.

I’m sure you did jack, I’m sure you did :roll:

Jack Hays · Oct 10, 2017

Jetboogieman said:
I’m sure you did jack, I’m sure you did :roll:

Those with little experience are often surprised by how counterintuitive reality can be.

Jetboogieman · Oct 10, 2017

Jack Hays said:
Those with little experience are often surprised by how counterintuitive reality can be.

And those that make things up and constantly subscribe to blatant falsehoods (such as climate change denial) are surprised when nobody believes the nonsense they spout.

Jack Hays · Oct 10, 2017

Jetboogieman said:
And those that make things up and constantly subscribe to blatant falsehoods (such as climate change denial) are surprised when nobody believes the nonsense they spout.

Your incuriosity is your burden.

joG · Oct 10, 2017

Jetboogieman said:
It is the legacy of colonialism that many of these places are the way they are so no, no I don’t think so joG, but as you’ve recently blamed rape victims it’s unsurprising you’re condoning the rape of a country and their resources.

I would say it is not dissimilar regarding responsibility from rape, where the raped person was provocative. The historical colonial status is partially responsible for the present state of affairs. But blaming the colonial powers for the lack of success is as helpful as the perp telling the court the girl had on a tantalisingly short skirt. The guy will go to jail, the girl has hiv, the country is in tortured disrepair and the colonial powers build the EU. All are responsible and each must live with the consequences.

Jack Hays · Oct 10, 2017

Jetboogieman said:
And those that make things up and constantly subscribe to blatant falsehoods (such as climate change denial) are surprised when nobody believes the nonsense they spout.

I spent a year in Liberia during round one of the civil war 1990-91. The most frequent request from Liberians was for US annexation.

longview · Oct 10, 2017

Jack Hays said:
I spent a year in Liberia during round one of the civil war 1990-91. The most frequent request from Liberians was for US annexation.

Perhaps at some point it becomes obvious that what you are trying is not working.
I think a stable (perhaps not so nice government) would be favorable to an unstable government,
where property ownership and justice were up for sale.

Jetboogieman · Oct 10, 2017

Jack Hays said:
I spent a year in Liberia during round one of the civil war 1990-91. The most frequent request from Liberians was for US annexation.

With how bad the war was, there’d be people who wouldn’t mind being annexed by North Korea.

But as an African, your anecdotal bull**** doesn’t impress me.

You, as usual.

Fail.

Jack Hays · Oct 10, 2017

Jetboogieman said:
With how bad the war was, there’d be people who wouldn’t mind being annexed by North Korea.

But as an African, your anecdotal bull**** doesn’t impress me.

You, as usual.

Fail.

And as an African holding the views I've seen here, you are complicit in the many failures across the continent.

Absentglare · Oct 10, 2017

Jack Hays said:
We protect free scholarly inquiry in this country, until we don't. My point is not to defend the article in question, but it's a sad day when death threats cause a retraction.

“Credible threats of personal violence” against editor prompt withdrawal of colonialism paper

with 8 comments

A journal has withdrawn an essay that called for a return to colonialism after the editor received alleged threats tied to the article.
Soon after Third World Quarterly published the controversial essay, readers began to object. When the journal defended its decision, 15 editorial board members resigned in response. More than 10,000 people signed a petition to have it retracted. On September 26, the publisher posted a statement — including a detailed timeline of the paper’s peer review process — and said the the author had requested to withdraw the article. However, in the statement, the publisher said that “peer-reviewed research articles cannot simply be withdrawn but must have grounds for retraction.”
The journal has since changed its position, and withdrawn the paper entirely from its site, posting this notice in its place:
Read the rest of this entry »

That's not "free scholarly inquiry", that's an attempt to take other people's freedom.

Sociobiologists thought they were using "science" to explain why women should not go to college. Turns out, they were conclusion-seeking.

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