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Rats and mice.

Ray9

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One could reasonably conclude that there are too many “educated” people in our society and they are not only destroying our society but the world as well. After the Sputnik scare in 1957 the government got involved in education and it’s been downhill ever since with focus of educational institutions shifting from producing better citizens to inflating taxation to provide the “good life” for educators at the extracted expense of the working class.

To illustrate this we must go to experiments conducted fifty years ago by John B. Calhoun, an American ethologist and behavioral researcher. Calhoun implemented his own War on Poverty and created a personal Great Society by fabricating a rodent paradise devoid of predators where all the resources were provided by the researchers or the “government” if you will. The only limit was space as part of the experiment was to study the stressful effects of overcrowding in his artificial rodent city.

In 1968 one of Calhoun’s early experiments began by introducing four pairs of mice into a habitat that had a nesting capacity to eventually accommodate 3,840. In the beginning things seemed to go well as the population doubled every 55 days and within 10 months had swelled to 620.

Then things began to retrogress with the population doubling only every five months. Circumstances then deteriorated quickly with mothers neglecting their young, males failing to defend their territory or indulge in courtship behaviors with homosexual as well as hypersexual conduct running rampant. Ultimately the rodent community never exceeded 2,200, well short of the limit and then rapidly declined to extinction.

Calhoun’s experiments were repeated over and over again with the same results-a debauched, maladaptive society destroyed by experimental tampering in the form of government social engineering. One wonders if the world would be a better place if we scrubbed some of the educated people out of positions of leadership and replaced them with average citizens who could actually get something useful done.

Calhoun’s rodent civilization went through four phases: strive, exploit, equilibrium and die. Our civilization is generally agreed to be in the exploit phase. The educated political establishment is trying to force-feed universal healthcare onto the population. They also want to legalize illegal drugs to anesthetize and stupefy the masses.

Be thankful our president is not eminently educated. He is the only thing stopping the educated rats from turning us all into mice.
 
Where have you been?
 
I thought this was going to be about 350s and 454s.
 
One could reasonably conclude that there are too many “educated” people in our society and they are not only destroying our society but the world as well. After the Sputnik scare in 1957 the government got involved in education and it’s been downhill ever since with focus of educational institutions shifting from producing better citizens to inflating taxation to provide the “good life” for educators at the extracted expense of the working class.

To illustrate this we must go to experiments conducted fifty years ago by John B. Calhoun, an American ethologist and behavioral researcher. Calhoun implemented his own War on Poverty and created a personal Great Society by fabricating a rodent paradise devoid of predators where all the resources were provided by the researchers or the “government” if you will. The only limit was space as part of the experiment was to study the stressful effects of overcrowding in his artificial rodent city.

In 1968 one of Calhoun’s early experiments began by introducing four pairs of mice into a habitat that had a nesting capacity to eventually accommodate 3,840. In the beginning things seemed to go well as the population doubled every 55 days and within 10 months had swelled to 620.

Then things began to retrogress with the population doubling only every five months. Circumstances then deteriorated quickly with mothers neglecting their young, males failing to defend their territory or indulge in courtship behaviors with homosexual as well as hypersexual conduct running rampant. Ultimately the rodent community never exceeded 2,200, well short of the limit and then rapidly declined to extinction.

Calhoun’s experiments were repeated over and over again with the same results-a debauched, maladaptive society destroyed by experimental tampering in the form of government social engineering. One wonders if the world would be a better place if we scrubbed some of the educated people out of positions of leadership and replaced them with average citizens who could actually get something useful done.

Calhoun’s rodent civilization went through four phases: strive, exploit, equilibrium and die. Our civilization is generally agreed to be in the exploit phase. The educated political establishment is trying to force-feed universal healthcare onto the population. They also want to legalize illegal drugs to anesthetize and stupefy the masses.

Be thankful our president is not eminently educated. He is the only thing stopping the educated rats from turning us all into mice.

Definitely the most bizarre post I've read here. And such a convoluted reasoning to support an anti-academic philistinism tied to Trumpism that I have to think that when it was first written it was intended to be humour- someone stumbled on the experiments meant to research the effects of overcrowding on mammal societies and (unsuccessfully, I think) tried to twist it into a sarcastic attack on the intelligentsia with Trump front and centre.
A nice try, but too stretched. And self-defeating- if only educated people are aware of a study that condemns educated people, well, you get where I'm going.
 
One could reasonably conclude that there are too many “educated” people in our society and they are not only destroying our society but the world as well. After the Sputnik scare in 1957 the government got involved in education and it’s been downhill ever since with focus of educational institutions shifting from producing better citizens to inflating taxation to provide the “good life” for educators at the extracted expense of the working class.

To illustrate this we must go to experiments conducted fifty years ago by John B. Calhoun, an American ethologist and behavioral researcher. Calhoun implemented his own War on Poverty and created a personal Great Society by fabricating a rodent paradise devoid of predators where all the resources were provided by the researchers or the “government” if you will. The only limit was space as part of the experiment was to study the stressful effects of overcrowding in his artificial rodent city.

In 1968 one of Calhoun’s early experiments began by introducing four pairs of mice into a habitat that had a nesting capacity to eventually accommodate 3,840. In the beginning things seemed to go well as the population doubled every 55 days and within 10 months had swelled to 620.

Then things began to retrogress with the population doubling only every five months. Circumstances then deteriorated quickly with mothers neglecting their young, males failing to defend their territory or indulge in courtship behaviors with homosexual as well as hypersexual conduct running rampant. Ultimately the rodent community never exceeded 2,200, well short of the limit and then rapidly declined to extinction.

Calhoun’s experiments were repeated over and over again with the same results-a debauched, maladaptive society destroyed by experimental tampering in the form of government social engineering. One wonders if the world would be a better place if we scrubbed some of the educated people out of positions of leadership and replaced them with average citizens who could actually get something useful done.

Calhoun’s rodent civilization went through four phases: strive, exploit, equilibrium and die. Our civilization is generally agreed to be in the exploit phase. The educated political establishment is trying to force-feed universal healthcare onto the population. They also want to legalize illegal drugs to anesthetize and stupefy the masses.

Be thankful our president is not eminently educated. He is the only thing stopping the educated rats from turning us all into mice.

The Khmer Rouge want their idea back.
 
One could reasonably conclude that there are too many “educated” people in our society and they are not only destroying our society but the world as well. After the Sputnik scare in 1957 the government got involved in education and it’s been downhill ever since with focus of educational institutions shifting from producing better citizens to inflating taxation to provide the “good life” for educators at the extracted expense of the working class.

To illustrate this we must go to experiments conducted fifty years ago by John B. Calhoun, an American ethologist and behavioral researcher. Calhoun implemented his own War on Poverty and created a personal Great Society by fabricating a rodent paradise devoid of predators where all the resources were provided by the researchers or the “government” if you will. The only limit was space as part of the experiment was to study the stressful effects of overcrowding in his artificial rodent city.

In 1968 one of Calhoun’s early experiments began by introducing four pairs of mice into a habitat that had a nesting capacity to eventually accommodate 3,840. In the beginning things seemed to go well as the population doubled every 55 days and within 10 months had swelled to 620.

Then things began to retrogress with the population doubling only every five months. Circumstances then deteriorated quickly with mothers neglecting their young, males failing to defend their territory or indulge in courtship behaviors with homosexual as well as hypersexual conduct running rampant. Ultimately the rodent community never exceeded 2,200, well short of the limit and then rapidly declined to extinction.

Calhoun’s experiments were repeated over and over again with the same results-a debauched, maladaptive society destroyed by experimental tampering in the form of government social engineering. One wonders if the world would be a better place if we scrubbed some of the educated people out of positions of leadership and replaced them with average citizens who could actually get something useful done.

Calhoun’s rodent civilization went through four phases: strive, exploit, equilibrium and die. Our civilization is generally agreed to be in the exploit phase. The educated political establishment is trying to force-feed universal healthcare onto the population. They also want to legalize illegal drugs to anesthetize and stupefy the masses.

Be thankful our president is not eminently educated. He is the only thing stopping the educated rats from turning us all into mice.

lol...maybe Cal should have given a few of the female mice some free birth control. :doh
 
The Khmer Rouge want their idea back.

We don't need to go to that extent. All we have to do is imagine Caitlyn Jenner trying to poll vault wearing stiletto heels. Our society is in a sick state and it didn't get this way by mistake. There are forces at work that want to take us down because they believe we killed the Indians, stole land from the Mexicans, enslaved the blacks and nuked the Japs. It's a kind of canned self-hatred that is chic in masturbatory intellectual circles replete with verbal virtuosity. The more "educated" our society becomes the more stupid it gets. Turn on your television.
 
anti-education would be the more difficult position to defend in debate class. glad that someone else drew it.
 
Thank you for helping me to become a better writer. The lack of responses encouraged me to rewrite the piece. Here is the rewrite:


Our leadership is fond of using science and research to justify taxation that imposes things like climate initiatives and universal health insurance onto the masses. Science is certainly important but self-serving science is not only dangerous it could lead us to the end of democracy.



To illustrate this we must go to experiments conducted fifty years ago by John B. Calhoun, an American ethologist and behavioral researcher. Calhoun implemented his own War on Poverty and created a personal Great Society by fabricating a rodent paradise devoid of predators where all the resources were provided by the researchers or the “government” if you will. The only limit was space as part of the experiment was to study the stressful effects of overcrowding in his artificial rodent city.


In 1968 one of Calhoun’s early experiments began by introducing four pairs of mice into a habitat that had a nesting capacity to eventually accommodate 3,840. In the beginning things seemed to go well as the population doubled every 55 days and within 10 months had swelled to 620.


Then things began to retrogress with the population doubling only every five months. Circumstances then deteriorated quickly with mothers neglecting their young, males failing to defend their territory or indulge in courtship behaviors with homosexual as well as hypersexual conduct running rampant. Ultimately the rodent community never exceeded 2,200, well short of the limit and then rapidly declined to extinction.


Calhoun’s experiments were repeated over and over again with the same results-a debauched, maladaptive society destroyed by experimental tampering in the form of government social engineering. Calhoun described the rodent descent in cultural depravity as “behavioral sink” which vividly mirrors the emergence of the American underclass, the practice of human sacrifice in the form of abortion on demand, the rise of violent crime , the spreading opioid crisis and the ascent of a political establishment that operates outside the law.


Calhoun’s rodent civilization went through four phases: strive, exploit, equilibrium and die. Our civilization is generally agreed to be in the exploit phase. American education and mass media have made a subtle shift from information to indoctrination using language manipulation to confuse the people and shepherd them in a desired direction-the same direction Calhoun’s rodents went.


Calhoun’s science has been buried under the sands of political correctness for decades. We need to dig it up and take a long, hard look at it.
 
Well, I understood your first version.

The education crisis was a symbol rather than the main topic. I understood that.

While your revised version is better, it still serves to present only one extreme vision of the problems we face.

We need government involved in our lives and we need compassionate and liberal services to aid the less fortunate among us.

There is a balance that is correct and we need to find it.

Your post is helpful in that it reminds us of that.......and maybe reminds us of the urgency with which we should address the problem of sharing wealth and opportunity in America.
 
One could reasonably conclude that there are too many “educated” people in our society and they are not only destroying our society but the world as well. After the Sputnik scare in 1957 the government got involved in education and it’s been downhill ever since with focus of educational institutions shifting from producing better citizens to inflating taxation to provide the “good life” for educators at the extracted expense of the working class.

To illustrate this we must go to experiments conducted fifty years ago by John B. Calhoun, an American ethologist and behavioral researcher. Calhoun implemented his own War on Poverty and created a personal Great Society by fabricating a rodent paradise devoid of predators where all the resources were provided by the researchers or the “government” if you will. The only limit was space as part of the experiment was to study the stressful effects of overcrowding in his artificial rodent city.

In 1968 one of Calhoun’s early experiments began by introducing four pairs of mice into a habitat that had a nesting capacity to eventually accommodate 3,840. In the beginning things seemed to go well as the population doubled every 55 days and within 10 months had swelled to 620.

Then things began to retrogress with the population doubling only every five months. Circumstances then deteriorated quickly with mothers neglecting their young, males failing to defend their territory or indulge in courtship behaviors with homosexual as well as hypersexual conduct running rampant. Ultimately the rodent community never exceeded 2,200, well short of the limit and then rapidly declined to extinction.

Calhoun’s experiments were repeated over and over again with the same results-a debauched, maladaptive society destroyed by experimental tampering in the form of government social engineering. One wonders if the world would be a better place if we scrubbed some of the educated people out of positions of leadership and replaced them with average citizens who could actually get something useful done.

Calhoun’s rodent civilization went through four phases: strive, exploit, equilibrium and die. Our civilization is generally agreed to be in the exploit phase. The educated political establishment is trying to force-feed universal healthcare onto the population. They also want to legalize illegal drugs to anesthetize and stupefy the masses.

Be thankful our president is not eminently educated. He is the only thing stopping the educated rats from turning us all into mice.

I don't know if this a factual presentation or not. No link.

That said, it's very interesting and is a fine myth if it's not factual along the lines of the Little Red Hen.

Similar results are seen in the actions of sudden wealth stories of the Lottery Winners or the Heirs and Heiresses who receive wealth that required no effort.

The simple fact is that the "four phases: strive, exploit, equilibrium and die" are required to prepare those who are capable of surviving in the real world.

We have evolved to understand that it's survival of the fittest, If the "the fittest" are everyone, the paradigm collapses.

Far from finding Utopia, the "Utopians" usually find oligarchy. There will always be those people that are more equal than others.

As much as we may try to engineer Utopia, we can't if it does not involve the desire, striving and achievement paradigm. Risk/reward is the rule of this world.
 
We don't need to go to that extent. All we have to do is imagine Caitlyn Jenner trying to poll vault wearing stiletto heels. Our society is in a sick state and it didn't get this way by mistake. There are forces at work that want to take us down because they believe we killed the Indians, stole land from the Mexicans, enslaved the blacks and nuked the Japs. It's a kind of canned self-hatred that is chic in masturbatory intellectual circles replete with verbal virtuosity. The more "educated" our society becomes the more stupid it gets. Turn on your television.

But we did nuke the Japanese. That's literal historical fact. And we did enslave African Americans. And we did kill some of the Native Americans.
 
I don't know if this a factual presentation or not. No link.

That said, it's very interesting and is a fine myth if it's not factual along the lines of the Little Red Hen.

Similar results are seen in the actions of sudden wealth stories of the Lottery Winners or the Heirs and Heiresses who receive wealth that required no effort.

The simple fact is that the "four phases: strive, exploit, equilibrium and die" are required to prepare those who are capable of surviving in the real world.

We have evolved to understand that it's survival of the fittest, If the "the fittest" are everyone, the paradigm collapses.

Far from finding Utopia, the "Utopians" usually find oligarchy. There will always be those people that are more equal than others.

As much as we may try to engineer Utopia, we can't if it does not involve the desire, striving and achievement paradigm. Risk/reward is the rule of this world.

Survival of the fittest isn't the human model.

If it was we'd just be the baddest animals on the savannah.

The strongest males would claim all the females and enslave or kill the weaker or smarter males to maintain dominance.

Compassion is genetic. And we alone do this.
 
Survival of the fittest isn't the human model.

If it was we'd just be the baddest animals on the savannah.

The strongest males would claim all the females and enslave or kill the weaker or smarter males to maintain dominance.

Compassion is genetic. And we alone do this.

Compassion is construct founded in many religions and in many societies.

Compassion seems to end where self interest ends. Members of societies and religions seem very capable of very violent, compassion-free actions.

Any mammal mama in nature will nurture its young, but that compassion ends where the family ends.

Eagles aren't bringing new friends back to the nest when they upchuck dinner. That dinner used to be a living animal.

Absent society and religion, we are animals and the fittest will survive.

Societies and religion exist precisely because compassion is NOT genetic.
 
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One could reasonably conclude that there are too many “educated” people in our society and they are not only destroying our society but the world as well. After the Sputnik scare in 1957 the government got involved in education and it’s been downhill ever since with focus of educational institutions shifting from producing better citizens to inflating taxation to provide the “good life” for educators at the extracted expense of the working class.

To illustrate this we must go to experiments conducted fifty years ago by John B. Calhoun, an American ethologist and behavioral researcher. Calhoun implemented his own War on Poverty and created a personal Great Society by fabricating a rodent paradise devoid of predators where all the resources were provided by the researchers or the “government” if you will. The only limit was space as part of the experiment was to study the stressful effects of overcrowding in his artificial rodent city.

In 1968 one of Calhoun’s early experiments began by introducing four pairs of mice into a habitat that had a nesting capacity to eventually accommodate 3,840. In the beginning things seemed to go well as the population doubled every 55 days and within 10 months had swelled to 620.

Then things began to retrogress with the population doubling only every five months. Circumstances then deteriorated quickly with mothers neglecting their young, males failing to defend their territory or indulge in courtship behaviors with homosexual as well as hypersexual conduct running rampant. Ultimately the rodent community never exceeded 2,200, well short of the limit and then rapidly declined to extinction.

Calhoun’s experiments were repeated over and over again with the same results-a debauched, maladaptive society destroyed by experimental tampering in the form of government social engineering. One wonders if the world would be a better place if we scrubbed some of the educated people out of positions of leadership and replaced them with average citizens who could actually get something useful done.

Calhoun’s rodent civilization went through four phases: strive, exploit, equilibrium and die. Our civilization is generally agreed to be in the exploit phase. The educated political establishment is trying to force-feed universal healthcare onto the population. They also want to legalize illegal drugs to anesthetize and stupefy the masses.

Be thankful our president is not eminently educated. He is the only thing stopping the educated rats from turning us all into mice.

you seem psychotic in my uneducated opinion
 
Thank you for helping me to become a better writer. The lack of responses encouraged me to rewrite the piece. Here is the rewrite:


Our leadership is fond of using science and research to justify taxation that imposes things like climate initiatives and universal health insurance onto the masses. Science is certainly important but self-serving science is not only dangerous it could lead us to the end of democracy.



To illustrate this we must go to experiments conducted fifty years ago by John B. Calhoun, an American ethologist and behavioral researcher. Calhoun implemented his own War on Poverty and created a personal Great Society by fabricating a rodent paradise devoid of predators where all the resources were provided by the researchers or the “government” if you will. The only limit was space as part of the experiment was to study the stressful effects of overcrowding in his artificial rodent city.


In 1968 one of Calhoun’s early experiments began by introducing four pairs of mice into a habitat that had a nesting capacity to eventually accommodate 3,840. In the beginning things seemed to go well as the population doubled every 55 days and within 10 months had swelled to 620.


Then things began to retrogress with the population doubling only every five months. Circumstances then deteriorated quickly with mothers neglecting their young, males failing to defend their territory or indulge in courtship behaviors with homosexual as well as hypersexual conduct running rampant. Ultimately the rodent community never exceeded 2,200, well short of the limit and then rapidly declined to extinction.


Calhoun’s experiments were repeated over and over again with the same results-a debauched, maladaptive society destroyed by experimental tampering in the form of government social engineering. Calhoun described the rodent descent in cultural depravity as “behavioral sink” which vividly mirrors the emergence of the American underclass, the practice of human sacrifice in the form of abortion on demand, the rise of violent crime , the spreading opioid crisis and the ascent of a political establishment that operates outside the law.


Calhoun’s rodent civilization went through four phases: strive, exploit, equilibrium and die. Our civilization is generally agreed to be in the exploit phase. American education and mass media have made a subtle shift from information to indoctrination using language manipulation to confuse the people and shepherd them in a desired direction-the same direction Calhoun’s rodents went.


Calhoun’s science has been buried under the sands of political correctness for decades. We need to dig it up and take a long, hard look at it.

if the climate is changing thats going to be bad for the masses have any country with universal health care seen their populations double till they collapse?
 
Science is science. It consists of experimentation that is repeatable and can be clearly demonstrated to be so using the rigor of good science to ensure it is free of contamination that leads to a false hypothesis. Calhoun's experiments were never attacked as being unscientific they were simply ignored because they did not the support the narrative that government is necessary and even crucial for human thriving. His experiments suggested the opposite. When the government provides all the basics for living organisms those organisms adopt a rudderless strategy leading to their own demise. They fail to thrive or even survive. Brain size is irrelevant.
 
Survival of the fittest isn't the human model.

If it was we'd just be the baddest animals on the savannah.

The strongest males would claim all the females and enslave or kill the weaker or smarter males to maintain dominance.

Compassion is genetic. And we alone do this.

Elephants do, too.
 
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