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Indoctrination of college students continue

How can you just overlook free speech in the spur of the moment unless you really don't give a **** about it in the first place? That excuse is just lame.
 
Restrictions like this only serve a few by constricting free speech. This abuse of authority has a chilling effect on speech, and reduces the quality of communication by imposing strict oversight.
 
Insisting on goofy grammar rules for certain class papers, even at a public college, is hardly a first amendment issue. That being said, it is indoctrination and should be discouraged by a public education facility. The assumption of some archaic definition of "mankind" is foolish.

Mankind | Define Mankind at Dictionary.com
 
It is the building of a thought police society.

there were a group of students at Berkley college that were active in
a racist protest and the demand of safe zones which are unconstitutional.

They blocked a main bridge through campus and refused to let white people cross while
letting minority people through. this is what the PC crowd is bringing with them.

so much for the party of tolerance.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Insisting on goofy grammar rules for certain class papers, even at a public college, is hardly a first amendment issue. That being said, it is indoctrination and should be discouraged by a public education facility. The assumption of some archaic definition of "mankind" is foolish.

Mankind | Define Mankind at Dictionary.com
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actually it very much is a first amendment issue.
in fact it is the kind of thing that the first amendment is there to protect.

one professor didn't see it in his guide as he borrowed it from another teacher and he is pulling it as he even
stated that it was a violation of speech for students writing papers.
 
ludin said:
Univ. of Northern Colorado students forced to use 'mandatory' gender-neutral language | Fox News

colleges violating the first amendment to push political ideology is a disaster.
this is absolute sickening and frankly these professors should be fired.
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GRAB your musket and march on Greeley Colorado!!!!! :roll:

4 classes out of how many? Are the college aged ADULT students being frog marched into the classrooms?

Its sociology... no self respecting Conservative would even enroll in that branch of study, and it's MINORITY division so again what GAWD fearin' Musket totin' Constitution wavin' 'real 'Merican' would ever be subjected to the Stalinist tactics of the librel education system in that area of what those Conservatives wouldn't really consider degree worthy study...

I see it more as a classroom experiment to show a different POV, like making all redheads subservient to the rest of the class. Or having a language class where only that language can be spoken. (Is that freedom of speech violation?) No need for any panties to get wadded up with this... ;)

Then again Professor Mark Shuey claims there is no mandatory enforcement, no student has complained, and there will be no punishment...

So much for overblown, overhype, Faux Noise tempest in a tea pot.

FYI it's a small Colorado college no one has ever heard of until Faux Noise roused the rabble. OU in Norman OK has double the enrollment... :peace
 
They will get the message when alumni stop giving money and sending sons and daughters there, and students in general stop applying.
 
Article doesnt say what peopel are supposed to use instead of man/woman etc..
The whole idea is moronic
 
notquiteright said:
GRAB your musket and march on Greeley Colorado!!!!! :roll:

4 classes out of how many? Are the college aged ADULT students being frog marched into the classrooms?

Its sociology... no self respecting Conservative would even enroll in that branch of study, and it's MINORITY division so again what GAWD fearin' Musket totin' Constitution wavin' 'real 'Merican' would ever be subjected to the Stalinist tactics of the librel education system in that area of what those Conservatives wouldn't really consider degree worthy study...

I see it more as a classroom experiment to show a different POV, like making all redheads subservient to the rest of the class. Or having a language class where only that language can be spoken. (Is that freedom of speech violation?) No need for any panties to get wadded up with this... ;)

Then again Professor Mark Shuey claims there is no mandatory enforcement, no student has complained, and there will be no punishment...

So much for overblown, overhype, Faux Noise tempest in a tea pot.

FYI it's a small Colorado college no one has ever heard of until Faux Noise roused the rabble. OU in Norman OK has double the enrollment... :peace
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No, immersion is not a violation of free speech. I'm assuming that, in an immersive setting, the same restrictions would apply on usage of pronouns. In the USA, if any number of states violated the Constitution, they would still be committing a crime against the citizens of those states. Sociology professors should know better than to propose this policy in their classrooms.
 
TheGoverness said:
I agree that this stuff is stupid. However, the 1st Amendment doesn't apply to private universities.
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If that were true, would the 1st Amendment apply to businesses, private hospitals and insurers?

The 1st Amendment protects our civil liberties.
 
Celebrity said:
If that were true, would the 1st Amendment apply to businesses, private hospitals and insurers?

The 1st Amendment protects our civil liberties.
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No. The 1st Amendment only protects you from the federal government.
 
TheGoverness said:
No. The 1st Amendment only protects you from the federal government.
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That's not accurate. Through a series of Supreme Court decisions, all parts of the First Amendment have also applied as restrictions on the states for quite a few decades now.
 
matchlight said:
That's not accurate. Through a series of Supreme Court decisions, all parts of the First Amendment have also applied as restrictions on the states for quite a few decades now.
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Well, of course. The federal government trumps the state governments.
 
notquiteright said:
GRAB your musket and march on Greeley Colorado!!!!! :roll:

4 classes out of how many? Are the college aged ADULT students being frog marched into the classrooms?

Its sociology... no self respecting Conservative would even enroll in that branch of study, and it's MINORITY division so again what GAWD fearin' Musket totin' Constitution wavin' 'real 'Merican' would ever be subjected to the Stalinist tactics of the librel education system in that area of what those Conservatives wouldn't really consider degree worthy study...

I see it more as a classroom experiment to show a different POV, like making all redheads subservient to the rest of the class. Or having a language class where only that language can be spoken. (Is that freedom of speech violation?) No need for any panties to get wadded up with this... ;)

Then again Professor Mark Shuey claims there is no mandatory enforcement, no student has complained, and there will be no punishment...

So much for overblown, overhype, Faux Noise tempest in a tea pot.

FYI it's a small Colorado college no one has ever heard of until Faux Noise roused the rabble. OU in Norman OK has double the enrollment... :peace
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First of sociology is usually required for 4 year degree students.
I doesn't matter what it is. what is done is unconstitutional.

I know you don't see it as a problem that is the view of most liberals to just ignore things.

that was 1 Mark took it out of his class because of the things I mentioned. as it interferes with a students free speech rights.

Actually it is becoming more and more common around campuses this is just one example of many.
 
TheGoverness said:
I agree that this stuff is stupid. However, the 1st Amendment doesn't apply to private universities.
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If they accept federal money then it applies.
 
TheGoverness said:
Well, of course. The federal government trumps the state governments.
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No the decision on the 14th amendment applied the constitution to the state level as well.
it had before only applied at the federal level.

This has lead to other issues but those other issues were due to lack of judicial oversite and them doing their
job in defending the constitution.
 
TheGoverness said:
Are they accepting federal money?
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one professor who copied the one in question is pulling it out of his paper as he said it violated students free speech.
 
ludin said:
No the decision on the 14th amendment applied the constitution to the state level as well.
it had before only applied at the federal level.
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I don't disagree with that part.
 
ludin said:
actually it very much is a first amendment issue.
in fact it is the kind of thing that the first amendment is there to protect.

one professor didn't see it in his guide as he borrowed it from another teacher and he is pulling it as he even
stated that it was a violation of speech for students writing papers.
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If the school tells you not to speak like that it is a First Amendment issue. But this is about requirements for assigned projects.

If my professor insists my paper be in 3rd person instead of 1st person is that a violation of my free speech?
 
BrewerBob said:
If the school tells you not to speak like that it is a First Amendment issue. But this is about requirements for assigned projects.

If my professor insists my paper be in 3rd person instead of 1st person is that a violation of my free speech?
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Nope that isn't what this is about. This is a teacher demanding students cannot use words that they would normally use to
say something. that is a violation.

that is why one professor is taking it out I don't think he realized it.
 
Ratemyprofessors.com gave her a 4.2, which is pretty damn good.
 
ludin said:
Nope that isn't what this is about. This is a teacher demanding students cannot use words that they would normally use to
say something. that is a violation.

that is why one professor is taking it out I don't think he realized it.
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Got it.
 
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