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Patrickt

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According to Greg Gutfield, East Carolina University has a counselling program on "adulting". How to be an adult? How to cope with disappointment?

One guest said that young people have PTSD from just living.

Another guest talked about a kids' ball game where batters didn't get three strikes. They got to swing as long as it took to hit the ball.

For years, I listened to young people saying either, "It's not fair," and I'd explain that no, life is not fair. It's not fair they were born beautiful and I was born ugly. The other thing I heard was, "But what about me?" "You are not the center of the universe." "Really? Mom said I was."

College offering students counseling on being adults | On Air Videos | Fox News

[video]http://video.foxnews.com/v/5082829415001/gutfeld-no-need-to-shoot-the-messenger-in-2016/?playlist_id=4249245556001#sp=show-clips[/video]
 
What a crock. Yet the way some kids have been raised where there is no winner or losers, everyone one gets an "A" because it is clear you tried your best , most likely need a reality check. Life is not fair and it can be hard. Not surprised some college is finding a need for some of their students.

PTSD from just living. good grief.

Have we become a nation of wimps.:mrgreen:
 
I didn't know you could get PTSD from just living.
 
_Sal said:
yes

and if a course helps, I'm all for it
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Shame it has come to that. Do you really believe a one course will correct all the damage some parents have done by raising their kids be "wimps".

Better idea, don't let the kids into to college that are not ready to face life and its challenges.
 
I can't judge. I am a millennial and there are days I still struggle with being an adult. Now that I have had to work awhile and pay some dues to move forward, it has gotten better, but I run into the occasional existential crisis when reality does not match the ideal I envisioned as a child.
 
The best way to succeed in life is to experience both the good and the bad.

That's the only way to learn your actual limitations and teach you how to recover and move on.

To never experience failure is to never recognize true success.

To never experience adversity is to never learn how to face it and overcome it.
 
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mike2810 said:
What a crock. Yet the way some kids have been raised where there is no winner or losers, everyone one gets an "A" because it is clear you tried your best , most likely need a reality check. Life is not fair and it can be hard. Not surprised some college is finding a need for some of their students.

PTSD from just living. good grief.

Have we become a nation of wimps.:mrgreen:
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I did read that psychologists had decided that you can get Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder that require treatment by watching disasters on the news. I knew there was a good reason I don't have a television.

I had to deal with this when I worked. A woman working for me really, really wanted a certain boy to invite her to the Senior Prom. He didn't so she had her daddy call his daddy who made his son invite Jenny to the junior senior prom. And then she was working for me. A nightmare of, "But what about me?"

Another woman complained of a hostile work environment because Helen was having a party and didnt' invite her. A party at work? No, in her home. But, I was to order Helen to invite delicate flower to her party. I'm pretty sure I would than have had a complaint about bullying.
 
Patrickt said:
I did read that psychologists had decided that you can get Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder that require treatment by watching disasters on the news. I knew there was a good reason I don't have a television.
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It could be true with the way some kids have been raised. I watch the news, have not had PTSD.

Did accident investigation on wildland fires as part of my job. Not a pretty site sometimes. Never had the need for counciling.
 
mike2810 said:
Shame it has come to that. Do you really believe a one course will correct all the damage some parents have done by raising their kids be "wimps".

Better idea, don't let the kids into to college that are not ready to face life and its challenges.
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do I think a course can correct all the damage which can basically be summed up in "lack of resiliency" made by parents who helicopter?

no

but it is a serious problem and it needs to be addressed

you can't deny kids entry into college due to bad parenting, it's like punishing the victim for the crime perpetrated upon them

besides this is not just a problem with college kids

ask employers about calls they get from the parents of kids wanting to know why their kid didn't get the job
also parents who enter their kids new place of employment in order to set up their new office for them

it's fing psychotic and it has to be addressed
 
_Sal said:
do I think a course can correct all the damage which can basically be summed up in "lack of resiliency" made by parents who helicopter?

no

but it is a serious problem and it needs to be addressed

you can't deny kids entry into college due to bad parenting, it's like punishing the victim for the crime perpetrated upon them

besides this is not just a problem with college kids

ask employers about calls they get from the parents of kids wanting to know why their kid didn't get the job
also parents who enter their kids new place of employment in order to set up their new office for them

it's fing psychotic and it has to be addressed
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ahh, a "not my fault" position.
I disagree. Schools can have admisstion standards to address this issue as well as academic readiness.

Employers can not hire a person, because they don't have the skills needed for the job. Some of the skills may be how they deal with others in life.

When you enter college or a trade school, one should be ready to learn. It is a waste of money to correct the "I am not ready to face life" classes.

The problem shoud be addressed outside of the classroom.
 
Patrickt said:
According to Greg Gutfield, East Carolina University has a counselling program on "adulting". How to be an adult? How to cope with disappointment?

One guest said that young people have PTSD from just living.

Another guest talked about a kids' ball game where batters didn't get three strikes. They got to swing as long as it took to hit the ball.

For years, I listened to young people saying either, "It's not fair," and I'd explain that no, life is not fair. It's not fair they were born beautiful and I was born ugly. The other thing I heard was, "But what about me?" "You are not the center of the universe." "Really? Mom said I was."

College offering students counseling on being adults | On Air Videos | Fox News

[video]http://video.foxnews.com/v/5082829415001/gutfeld-no-need-to-shoot-the-messenger-in-2016/?playlist_id=4249245556001#sp=show-clips[/video]
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This is what happens when parents no longer raise children with the intent on getting them PREPARED for the reality of life.

I'm not faulting the college on this - they're now becoming babysitters for inept children. They've taken on the burden and this is a viable solution to this ever growing problem. On their part it's a smart movie (they had to hire 2 new counselors recently because the demand is so much higher... really? The 'stressors' of life have climbed THAT high?)

I think some of this is also reflective of the decline of real-world friendships. Without people to TALK to and get daily feedback and advice from, and instead just turning to social media to veg out and avoid stress, people don't have the network that those of us who are older were forced to rely on. Friends and family weren't just in your loop because you LIKED them.
 
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mike2810 said:
It could be true with the way some kids have been raised. I watch the news, have not had PTSD.

Did accident investigation on wildland fires as part of my job. Not a pretty site sometimes. Never had the need for counciling.
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I was a police officer for thirty years. The major crimes, major disasters, horrible abuse cases weren't the stress problem. I decided it was the "dust bunny syndrome". It was the little tragedies day in and day out that built up, like dust bunnies under the bed, until one day it was what the hell is wrong. I was riding my bicycle into town and I suddenly felt sick. I stopped the bike and sat under a tree looking up at an apartment building. I suddenly realized I was remembering two suicides in that building and then I realized that almost every block I'd passed had a body from the past. It's the accumulation of thirty years and it wears on you. One death was natural and the tragedy was that no one noticed for three weeks when the smell was overwhelming. Another was a woman alcoholic who died of natural causes but everyone one in the family had spoken with her within the last hour. The fact was she'd been dead for more than twelve hours but no one wanted to admit they were so fed up they had just ignored her.

No, it's the little tragedies that add up over the years that take a toll.
 
My son and my daughter were raised as I was....no depression, no anxiety, no PTSD, and they were not alphabet kids and they can cope with whatever life throws at them. My four grand daughters, ranging in age from 18 to 8, were and are being, raised as I raised my kids....no depression, no anxiety, no PTSD and they are not alphabet kids and they will be able to cope with whatever life throws at them. Thank goodness for old fashioned child rearing!

One watches over time, seeing the new child rearing methods based on what psychologists recommend, and one knows that disaster is going to happen. As a teacher, I see it every day. I could never, ever be a Year Advisor. My response to all the little complaints would be "Are you over it yet?"
 
Patrickt said:
I was a police officer for thirty years. The major crimes, major disasters, horrible abuse cases weren't the stress problem. I decided it was the "dust bunny syndrome". It was the little tragedies day in and day out that built up, like dust bunnies under the bed, until one day it was what the hell is wrong. I was riding my bicycle into town and I suddenly felt sick. I stopped the bike and sat under a tree looking up at an apartment building. I suddenly realized I was remembering two suicides in that building and then I realized that almost every block I'd passed had a body from the past. It's the accumulation of thirty years and it wears on you. One death was natural and the tragedy was that no one noticed for three weeks when the smell was overwhelming. Another was a woman alcoholic who died of natural causes but everyone one in the family had spoken with her within the last hour. The fact was she'd been dead for more than twelve hours but no one wanted to admit they were so fed up they had just ignored her.

No, it's the little tragedies that add up over the years that take a toll.
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Thank you for your service as a LEO.

Back to the OP, I doubt kids going to college today have been exposed to what you or I have experienced. It is a shame that some are not ready to face life on their own as adults.
 
TheGoverness said:
I didn't know you could get PTSD from just living.
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Experience is generally normalized relative to the lifetime of the observer.

Living, by itself, is not simply easy. Dealing with the inevitability of ones own death can create limitless sadness for one who has no other challenge to serve as a distraction.
 
Patrickt said:
According to Greg Gutfield, East Carolina University has a counselling program on "adulting". How to be an adult? How to cope with disappointment?

One guest said that young people have PTSD from just living.

Another guest talked about a kids' ball game where batters didn't get three strikes. They got to swing as long as it took to hit the ball.

For years, I listened to young people saying either, "It's not fair," and I'd explain that no, life is not fair. It's not fair they were born beautiful and I was born ugly. The other thing I heard was, "But what about me?" "You are not the center of the universe." "Really? Mom said I was."

College offering students counseling on being adults | On Air Videos | Fox News

[video]http://video.foxnews.com/v/5082829415001/gutfeld-no-need-to-shoot-the-messenger-in-2016/?playlist_id=4249245556001#sp=show-clips[/video]
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So, you've graduated?
 
TheGoverness said:
I didn't know you could get PTSD from just living.
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That would depend upon a lot of things, like where triggers originate and how people coped as kids with what ever came their way, from bullying at school to abuses of all kinds at home. People are like clocks; that is to say there are only so many types of behaviors they can have before they start repeating them, just in different situations throughout life. Relationships are the same way: they are piloted by past experiences.
 
Patrickt said:
According to Greg Gutfield, East Carolina University has a counselling program on "adulting". How to be an adult? How to cope with disappointment?

One guest said that young people have PTSD from just living.

Another guest talked about a kids' ball game where batters didn't get three strikes. They got to swing as long as it took to hit the ball.

For years, I listened to young people saying either, "It's not fair," and I'd explain that no, life is not fair. It's not fair they were born beautiful and I was born ugly. The other thing I heard was, "But what about me?" "You are not the center of the universe." "Really? Mom said I was."

College offering students counseling on being adults | On Air Videos | Fox News

[video]http://video.foxnews.com/v/5082829415001/gutfeld-no-need-to-shoot-the-messenger-in-2016/?playlist_id=4249245556001#sp=show-clips[/video]
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No way... this is just too over the top funny. :lol:

Fortunately I don't think too many young people really need adulting programs. Those that do need adulting counseling need parenting classes as well so unlearn all the **** their parents did wrong with them.
 
This is the most unprepared for real life generation in maybe forever.

One of the many many signs that this civilization is about over.

That something new is about to get born.

I wish I was going to live to see it.

I am very curious about it.

About what comes next.

The stench of death.

Now sucks.

:thumbdown
 
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Patrickt said:
According to Greg Gutfield, East Carolina University has a counselling program on "adulting". How to be an adult? How to cope with disappointment?

One guest said that young people have PTSD from just living.

Another guest talked about a kids' ball game where batters didn't get three strikes. They got to swing as long as it took to hit the ball.

For years, I listened to young people saying either, "It's not fair," and I'd explain that no, life is not fair. It's not fair they were born beautiful and I was born ugly. The other thing I heard was, "But what about me?" "You are not the center of the universe." "Really? Mom said I was."

College offering students counseling on being adults | On Air Videos | Fox News

[video]http://video.foxnews.com/v/5082829415001/gutfeld-no-need-to-shoot-the-messenger-in-2016/?playlist_id=4249245556001#sp=show-clips[/video]
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Get Off My Lawn!!!!
 
CriticalThought said:
I can't judge. I am a millennial and there are days I still struggle with being an adult. Now that I have had to work awhile and pay some dues to move forward, it has gotten better, but I run into the occasional existential crisis when reality does not match the ideal I envisioned as a child.
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What's a 'millennial'? I never knew. Obviously not someone born this century.
I graduated high school in '73, my son in '02 and I can attest that life was 'way easier for me than for him. Jobs were there for the asking- if we got bored or pissed off we quit. UIC Ski Team (UIC being Unemployment Insurance Commission). I just bummed around 'till I was 25 and started in a trade.
My son, on the other hand, had to be 'way more focused. I told him to go to university, spend four years studying whatever, French Medieval Literature, I didn't care. He could start a trade after he got out. Nope. He had to get a career on-track right away. His technical training has served him well but, ideally, there should be that slack period, that transition between youth and adult. Young people nowadays feel more pressure- it's a very competitive atmosphere out there that's different from my day.
 
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