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Agnapostate

Agnapostate

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Christian rightists are obviously unwilling to openly praise Scott Roeder, murderer of abortion provider George Tiller, but many aren't especially subtle in concealing their sentiments.

Shooting puts abortion foes on defensive - Crime & courts- msnbc.com

Operation Rescue condemned the killing as vigilantism and "a cowardly act." But its founder, Randall Terry, stressed that the anti-abortion movement should not tone down its rhetoric. He said the gunman was wrong to kill Tiller, 67, but that abortion opponents bear no responsibility for the action.

Tiller was "a mass murderer and horrifically, he reaped what he sowed," Terry told the National Press Club in Washington.
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Does that not speak to an obvious belief that Tiller received his "just desserts"?
 
He did reap what he sowed. Get over it.


The man was a walking holocost.
 
One can condemn and action and still believe that the person deserved what they got.

Personally, I think that some people deserve to get beaten with a rubber hose, but I wouldn't support someone actually beating them with one.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Yes here we are indeed. I am sorry you are more upset with thie savages death than you are the 1000's of babies he killed.
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Yes, the many medical procedures he performed are a sad and private matter. But performing a 1,000,000 legal medical procedures does not justify the murder of one innocent man.

IMO, Randall Terry emotionally abuses children when he uses them in his demented little protests. Although I see Terry's actions as morally wrong to use children in that what it is not illegal.

That is the bottom line here...
 
hazlnut said:
Yes, the many medical procedures he performed are a sad and private matter. But performing a 1,000,000 legal medical procedures does not justify the murder of one innocent man.
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Slavery was "legal". Does not make the holocost tiller was responsible for any more right. He was hardley "innocent".

IMO, Randall Terry emotionally abuses children when he uses them in his demented little protests. Although I see Terry's actions as morally wrong to use children in that what it is not illegal.

That is the bottom line here...
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At least the Childeren around Randall Terry are around to be "abused". :roll:
 
Any person who truly believes in literal sense that an abortion doctor is killing babies is duty bound to stop it. That seems obvious. Not everyone's singularly focus is to be politically correct for the hour.
 
I think it's sad that a man who spent his life saving the lives of pregnant women is considered a mass murderer and "reaped what he sowed" when he was cowardly shot down in his place of worship.
 
rivrrat said:
I think it's sad that a man who spent his life saving the lives of pregnant women is considered a mass murderer and "reaped what he sowed" when he was cowardly shot down in his place of worship.
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Really? I thought he would do it if the mother had the blues.
 
I think it's sad that so called pro-life people can call pro-choice people supporters of murder then turn around and justify the murder of a doctor. It is ignorance and hypocrisy at it's worst.
 
Saboteur said:
I think it's sad that so called pro-life people can call pro-choice people supporters of murder then turn around and justify the murder of a doctor. It is ignorance and hypocrisy at it's worst.
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How is it hypocritical to remove a threat to life? The Doctor had a choice and he chose genocide.


The 1000's of unborn that may have a chance now in that area, seem to offset the death of this savage.
 
Tucker Case said:
Meh. There is very little chance this murder saved all that many fetuses. Someone else will perform the procedures.
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I wish the "pro-lifers" would take a different approach exploring ways to reduce the demand and or need of abortions
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
How is it hypocritical to remove a threat to life? The Doctor had a choice and he chose genocide.


The 1000's of unborn that may have a chance now in that area, seem to offset the death of this savage.
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I'm just saying that if one is pro-life then they should be pro-life. People should stand up for what they believe I agree, but to answer what one believes is murder with murder doesn't solve anything. The man who killed George Tiller did nothing but take away his own freedom.

Perhaps Dr. Tiller deserved to die for performing abortions I don't know, I'm just a human. But I definately know Scott Roeder deserves to spend the rest of his life in prison.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Really? I thought he would do it if the mother had the blues.
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There is a difference between "the blues" and suicidal depression, and it does no service to your side to minimize the severe effects of suicidal depression.
 
winston53660 said:
I wish the "pro-lifers" would take a different approach exploring ways to reduce the demand and or need of abortions
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I think the FDA approval of levonorgestrel (Plan B) and legislation to make it available over the counter for women 17 and older is a great step forward. But it's up to pro-life folks to educate themselves about it.

Morning-after pill: Emergency birth control - MayoClinic.com

"The active ingredients in morning-after pills are similar to those in birth control pills, except in higher doses. Some morning-after pills contain only one hormone, levonorgestrel (Plan B), and others contain two, progestin and estrogen. Progestin prevents the sperm from reaching the egg and keeps a fertilized egg from attaching to the wall of the uterus (implantation). Estrogen stops the ovaries from releasing eggs (ovulation) that can be fertilized by sperm."
 
Agnapostate said:
See? There we are. :lol:
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No. We meaning the adults who can process complex ethical and philosophic issues are in a lofty plane doing so.

Others are in a simplistic world usually reserved for mentally deficient children setting up inane arguments in futile attempts to foil more sophisticated minds.

You see?

No, I didn't think you would.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
How is it hypocritical to remove a threat to life? The Doctor had a choice and he chose genocide.


The 1000's of unborn that may have a chance now in that area, seem to offset the death of this savage.
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How can you be so blatantly hypocritical?

When a fetus is removed from a pregnant mother's body whose life is in danger due to it's very presence, is that not removing a threat to life?
 
Agnapostate said:
Christian rightists are obviously unwilling to openly praise Scott Roeder, murderer of abortion provider George Tiller, but many aren't especially subtle in concealing their sentiments.

Shooting puts abortion foes on defensive - Crime & courts- msnbc.com



Does that not speak to an obvious belief that Tiller received his "just desserts"?
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No. It speaks to the prediction that abortion rights proponents (of which I am one) will try to use this to stifle any criticism of abortion. Basically, far left abortion extremists just got handed another meat shield.

I, for one, hope the pro-lifers don't let them get away with their favorite vice of stifling debate. :shrug:
 
winston53660 said:
I wish the "pro-lifers" would take a different approach exploring ways to reduce the demand and or need of abortions
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ending abortion and reducing the demand and/or need for abortions are not mutually exclusive goals, and the pro-choicers attempts to paint the pro-life crowd as bible thumping abstinence preachers is Bogus, to say the least
 
DeeJayH said:
ending abortion and reducing the demand and/or need for abortions are not mutually exclusive goals, and the pro-choicers attempts to paint the pro-life crowd as bible thumping abstinence preachers is Bogus, to say the least
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I did not paint pro lifers as bible thumpers although a lot are. And making abortion illegal will not stop it any more than making pot illegal has stopped people from smoking it.
 
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rivrrat said:
How can you be so blatantly hypocritical?

When a fetus is removed from a pregnant mother's body whose life is in danger due to it's very presence, is that not removing a threat to life?
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Excuse me. I believe that you'll find after a little casual reading, that physical "health of the mother" is one of the rarer reasons for having an abortion, especially the hideous type that was the specialty of the Good Doctor.

This man made money, and I must admit, I suspect got a certain pleasure out of opening up the skulls of fully viable infants. If he didn't enjoy the work he was certainly in a position to find other employment.
 
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rivrrat said:
How can you be so blatantly hypocritical?

When a fetus is removed from a pregnant mother's body whose life is in danger due to it's very presence, is that not removing a threat to life?
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At 26+ weeks you can remove the baby without killing it. I almost had to go early because of pre-eclampsia- and that is life threatening. I ended up going only a couple weeks early. We had to do what was best for mother and baby, and I can say I only thought of what was best for the baby over me.
 
Oftencold said:
Excuse me. I believe that you'll find after a little casual reading, that physical "health of the mother" is one of the rarer reasons for having an abortion, especially the hideous type that was the specialty of the Good Doctor.

This man made money, and I must admit, I suspect got a certain pleasure out of opening up the skulls of fully viable infants. If he didn't enjoy the work he was certainly in a position to find other employment.
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After a lot of purposeful reading I've found that the "health of the mother" is pretty much the only reason for late term abortions.
 
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