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Five Telltale Signs of a Crisis Pregnancy Center

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The article below gives a lot of helpful information on the signs of a crisis pregnancy center (also known as a CPC), so girls and women who really want an abortion would be able to more easily spot -- and avoid -- these places. In my view, there are still too many who don't know the difference between a clinic that provides abortions and a CPC, so they end up going to a CPC by mistake.

Quote (first paragraph):

"Figuring out how to get good health care can be hard enough under everyday circumstances, much less when you need an abortion. In that case, it makes sense that you might jump at anyone’s offer to help you figure out your options. Unfortunately, that could lead you to a crisis pregnancy center."

Click on the link below to read the article in its entirety.

5 Telltale Signs of a Crisis Pregnancy Center | SELF
 
OceanBlues1 said:
The article below gives a lot of helpful information on the signs of a crisis pregnancy center (also known as a CPC), so girls and women who really want an abortion would be able to more easily spot -- and avoid -- these places. In my view, there are still too many who don't know the difference between a clinic that provides abortions and a CPC, so they end up going to a CPC by mistake.
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Good article but they left out 2 of the most important clues:
*CPC ads stress that all their services are free, which is true but along with the implication that they provide abortion is the implication that it, too, is free. Planned Parenthood never offers free products, tests or service. They do have a list of organizations whose purpose is to assist with abortion payments if a patient needs financial help.
*CPC internet information state that the school nurse or the university health center are not the best places to go for information if one is pregnant and doesn't know what to do.

Here is the information that the Bend, Oregon CPC web site provides . Pregnant? | We Can Help - All Services Free | Pregnancy Resource Center
Free Services
We offer many free and confidential services. Give us a*call* or make an*appointment *to find out more.
Pregnancy tests
Ultrasound exams
Prenatal Vitamins
Abortion education/Abortion help
Pregnancy and parenting education
Maternity/baby clothing and baby items/ baby equipment.
Referrals to physicians, agencies, local agencies and support groups.
After-abortion help

MY OPTIONS
*PARENTING
*ADOPTION
*ABORTION

FOR STUDENTS
Your School May Not Be the Place to Ask Questions
Your school (High School, OSU or COCC) won’t have the resources or the training to help you.* Unplanned pregnancy is all we do.* Every day we talk with girls who are in the midst of trying to figure out what to do once she thinks she’s pregnant.* Most likely your school will encourage you to go to your doctor or to an abortion clinic to solve your problem.* We do more than that. We care about you, about your future and believe you need to have enough information to make an informed choice.

You pay nothing, you don’t need insurance and everything is kept confidential.*

Make An Appointment
The Pregnancy Resource Center is staffed by medical professionals and individuals who believe you should have accurate, reliable information about your pregnancy. *We believe you deserve to be treated with respect and armed with all the facts so that you can make informed decisions. *Our centers provide free, safe and confidential consultations with caring client advocates and nurses who are here to address your questions and concerns. We provide free pregnancy testing, ultrasounds, prenatal vitamins, educational programming and much more.* Don’t wait, make and appointment online or call 541-xxx-xxxx for a same day appointment.
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No other business that I know of is allowed to lie like this.
 
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weaver2 said:
No other business that I know of is allowed to lie like this.
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There should also be an article of the 5 biggest lies the CPCs tell

1. Information is kept confidential.
It isn't and the SC ruled they did not have to follow the confidentially regulation of medical centers if they were not officially medical clinics.

2. Financial help is provided for pregnancy and baby.
There is no financial help with pre or post natal care or birthing, well baby clinics, mother's postpartum costs, follow up medical visits. The centers offer free diapers and formula for some limited time.

3. School nurse and health centers can't help you if you are pregnant.
These are exactly the places to go first for information and help.

4. Abortion is dangerous,
causes breast cancer, infertility and permanent depression. This is simply not true.

5. They are a medical clinic staffed by nurses and doctors.
Most of the Catholic CPC have gone through a "conversion process" and managed to get classified as actual medical clinics. In spite of this official designation they do not provide actual professional medical services except for their ultrasound. Their limited ultrasound program is overseen by an off site medical or osteopathic doctor. Somehow this makes them qualified to call themselves a medical clinic. STD testing is still done by volunteers but records have to be kept and the overseen again by an off site nurse.

After the sonogram exam is finished a volunteer counselor goes over the pictures using an inappropriate and unprofessional Church designed dialogue stressing the innocence and helplessness of the fetus, encouraging the bonding between mother and fetus and emphasizing the horrors of abortion. It's ironic the CPC needs to have this professional ultrasound to qualify as a medical clinic then it uses that exam in a way that is totally unethical for a medical clinic.

If the CPC has not converted to a medical clinic it is free to dress up it's volunteers in white coats and surgical scrubs and play doctor. The SC says it can do this and it doesn't have to notify the patient it is not a medical center and the staff are not medical professionals.
 
weaver2 said:
Good article but they left out 2 of the most important clues ...
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Thanks for picking up the slack, and providing the other important points that the article omitted. :2wave:
 
weaver2 said:
There should also be an article of the 5 biggest lies the CPCs tell.
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Agreed, and there may be such an article out there somewhere. In the meantime, we can discuss the other points in the article. Like this one:

Quote:
"That’s exactly what drew Jasmine Clemons, 35, to a crisis pregnancy center when she was 22. She’d already struck out twice when looking for abortion care: Her gynecologist’s office dismissed her, and an abortion at the private clinic in town would cost her a month’s rent. When she saw a sign on her college campus that said “Pregnant and need help?” with a phone number, Clemons thought it was her last option. The red flags started stacking up quickly once she visited the center."

IMO the first red flag is "flown" when the CPC staffer refuses to give out any information over the phone, but insists that the caller "make an appointment" for an in-person interview. If they're really there to "help" as they claim, then why don't they provide any helpful information over the phone? A simple "we don't do abortions here" may be all a caller needs to hear to end the conversation and not go there at all. Which is why they don't say that, because they want callers to come in for their "interview," where the caller is at their "mercy."
 
Common Fake Women's Health Center Misinformation - NARAL Pro-Choice North Carolina

Here's a quote from the above article about the third most common lie that CPCs tell women concerning the effectiveness of condoms.

Quote:
"Lie #3: 'Condoms don't work.'
Truth: The World Health Organization disputes this lie, sharing that intact condoms prevent STDs and unintended pregnancies with an accuracy rate of 97%. Likewise, the National Institute of Health also touts the effectiveness of condoms. Abstinence is the only 100% way to guarantee that you are preventing unintended pregnancies, but birth control and other forms of contraception, such as condoms, can protect a woman from getting pregnant more than 99% of the time. A woman should consult with her doctor about the form of birth control that is best for her."
 
Thank you for starting this thread Ocean! It is much better than trying to squeeze CPC lies into a completely unrelated thread or bring up one that is at least two years old.

Weaver, you are right on all points. I wonder, "Why is this crap legal?" every time you debunk a stupid CPC lie about what they really do.
 
Blue Donkey said:
Thank you for starting this thread Ocean! It is much better than trying to squeeze CPC lies into a completely unrelated thread or bring up one that is at least two years old.
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You're very welcome. And thank you for the suggestion of starting a new CPC thread with an article title. As you said, it is much better to have a specific thread detailing the lies that CPCs use, so we can always add the information that related articles don't include. :2wave:
 
5 Telltale Signs of a Crisis Pregnancy Center | SELF

Here's another quote from the thread article:

| 4. They won’t clearly say if they do or don’t perform abortions.

You might call a clinic you find online, ask if they provide abortions, and hear that you need to come in before they’ll answer. This is a red flag, says Shumaker. These kinds of responses are usually intended to get you to come in and have a conversation that could then influence your decision to get an abortion.

If you do actually go into a CPC, you’ll often pretty quickly get the sense that they don’t think abortion is your best option. “If your conversation leans one way, then we say they’re catfishing you,” says Flint.

Shumaker says she’s even heard of staffers at crisis pregnancy centers lying to people about how far along they are in their pregnancies, either by telling them they have more time to decide before getting an abortion (when they legally don’t) or telling them they are too far along (when they’re really not). This can be a tactic to delay someone from getting an abortion until it’s no longer legal.

Remember that a real medical health center—whether or not it provides or refers for abortions—shouldn’t try to scare you into any one particular choice. “It’s so cruel to infringe on a patient’s autonomy,” Hasstedt says. |

Saying this (not telling callers over the phone that they don't do abortions) is a "red flag" is an understatement IMO. I'd say it's a huge red banner, which callers need to pay attention to. They might also consider asking a simple question, like, "is this a Crisis Pregnancy Center?" and see what the staffer's reaction is. If the person says yes, then the caller can just hang up, if what she really wants is an abortion. Because all a CPC is going to do is waste her time, which is very important when it comes to aborting a pregnancy. A woman who wants an abortion doesn't have much time to lose.
 
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Does anyone else see the irony of Christian organizations lying to women? The same chapter in which Moses said, "You shall not kill" prohibits making false statements.
 
I read a CNN article about one woman falling for this vague newspaper advertisement: "Do you think you are pregnant? We can help." She did not identify the organization, but described it as being "like a crisis pregnancy center." Her assumption, of course, was it would be like Planned Parenthood abortion clinics. Far from it: She waited for an hour to get a pregnancy test, then more to get test results, and left a counseling session clearly designed to steer her the wrong direction. She ended up giving birth because of it.
 
No article is more legitimate than this one when you consider the source.

Crisis pregnancy centers are organizations that seek to intercept women with unintended pregnancies who might be considering abortion. Their mission is to prevent abortions by persuading women that adoption or parenting is a better option. They strive to give the impression that they are clinical centers, offering legitimate medical services and advice, yet they are exempt from regulatory, licensure, and credentialing oversight that apply to health care facilities. Because the religious ideology of these centers’ owners and employees takes priority over the health and well-being of the women seeking care at these centers, women do not receive comprehensive, accurate, evidence-based clinical information about all available options. Although crisis pregnancy centers enjoy First Amendment rights protections, their propagation of misinformation should be regarded as an ethical violation that undermines women’s health.
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Why Crisis Pregnancy Centers Are Legal but Unethical | Journal of Ethics | American Medical Association
 
weaver2 said:
When a respected journal of medical ethics tells you the place is a scam, you might think twice about the honesty and quality of the service and the people.
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Absolutely. It is exactly what I keep telling anti-choicers to show me: an information-only medical website written by reproductive health specialists without any hints of political or religious bias.
 
Scrabaholic said:
Here's a hillarious take on CPCs:

Crisis Pregnancy Centers: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO) - YouTube
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From the John Oliver discussion on CPC: Abby Johnson talking about CPCs.

"We want to appear neutral on the outside, The best call, the best client you ever get is one that thinks they’re walking into an abortion clinic. Okay? Those are the best clients that could ever walk in your door or call your center–the ones that think you provide abortions."

Abby's candor about the dishonesty of CPCs is mind blowing.
 
Why does she care who walks into a CPC?
 
weaver2 said:
From the John Oliver discussion on CPC: Abby Johnson talking about CPCs.

"We want to appear neutral on the outside, The best call, the best client you ever get is one that thinks they’re walking into an abortion clinic. Okay? Those are the best clients that could ever walk in your door or call your center–the ones that think you provide abortions."

Abby's candor about the dishonesty of CPCs is mind blowing.
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I contemplated taking a screenshot of that admission.
 
Blue Donkey said:
Why does she care who walks into a CPC?
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A client that thinks the CPC does abortions means they have a naive client who will be amenable to their delaying tactics until the late 2nd trimester when no clinic or doctor will do an abortion on a normal, healthy, viable fetus. All their literature, advertising and free services are aimed at teens and poor women. They are the most gullible. Older women are generally savvy enough not to be fooled by CPCs lies and delaying tactics.
 
Blue Donkey said:
I read a CNN article about one woman falling for this vague newspaper advertisement: "Do you think you are pregnant? We can help." She did not identify the organization, but described it as being "like a crisis pregnancy center." Her assumption, of course, was it would be like Planned Parenthood abortion clinics. Far from it: She waited for an hour to get a pregnancy test, then more to get test results, and left a counseling session clearly designed to steer her the wrong direction. She ended up giving birth because of it.
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Yep, that's the main goal of a CPC; to trick women out of getting an abortion and into staying pregnant and giving birth. One way to do that is to keep delaying women until it's too late to get an abortion at a real clinic.
 
weaver2 said:
From the John Oliver discussion on CPC: Abby Johnson talking about CPCs.

"We want to appear neutral on the outside, The best call, the best client you ever get is one that thinks they’re walking into an abortion clinic. Okay? Those are the best clients that could ever walk in your door or call your center–the ones that think you provide abortions."
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In other words, a CPC's "best clients" are girls and women who have little to no idea what "crisis pregnancy center" even means, let alone what tactics they use to con these "best clients" into giving birth instead of having an abortion.

This is why girls and women should inform themselves about these places immediately if they haven't done so already. If they know they'll want an abortion instead of a baby, they need to know how to avoid CPCs altogether.
 
weaver2 said:
A client that thinks the CPC does abortions means they have a naive client who will be amenable to their delaying tactics until the late 2nd trimester when no clinic or doctor will do an abortion on a normal, healthy, viable fetus. All their literature, advertising and free services are aimed at teens and poor women. They are the most gullible.
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Unfortunately, they are, and that's because they may have limited, if any, access to the internet, where they can read online articles about CPCs and the dishonest tactics they use to get "clients" to come to their phony centers. They may not have much access to informative print magazine articles either, a really bad circumstance I would like to see changed.
 
Below is another article that exposes the lies and manipulative tactics of "Crisis Pregnancy Centers," aka CPCs. I think it's well-written and very informative, so I decided to post this one here as well. I included the link, the title, and a quote of the first paragraph.

From: Pregnant and Scared? How fake clinics prey on women - NWHN


Pregnant and Scared: How Fake Clinics Prey on Women

1st Paragraph Quote:
"You've probably seen ads for "crisis pregnancy centers" (CPCs, also called "pregnancy resource centers"), those fake clinics designed to appear like real comprehensive reproductive health clinics. Sometimes they set up right next to real clinics, mimicking the real clinic's name and logo. They advertise under "abortion services," burying in fine print that they don't really provide abortion services -- or any other medical service. Their goal is to trick women seeking an abortion into going to the CPC for shaming instead. A CPC made the news again last month when the Trump Administration forced a pregnant teenager being held by the Office of Refugee Resettlement to go in for anti-abortion counseling, even as they were illegally denying her constitutional right to an abortion."

Click on the article link at the top to read the entire article. It's well worth the time for anyone who needs a thorough education on how these fake clinics operate.
 
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