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Conservative refuse to admit these facts are true

soylentgreen said:
When a conservative wants to control a woman's choices they see no limit to their power to do so.
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If people followed my belief system then neither abortion nor venereal diseases would be an issue.
 
weaver2 said:
These are true facts about abortion. Why won't pro-life advocates admit they are true?

*95% of women did the right thing by getting an abortion
Five years after abortion, nearly all women say it was the right decision, even those who struggled to make the decision supported the abortion years later.
*Anti-abortion women are the largest % of women getting abortions:
The majority of abortion patients indicated a religious affiliation: Seventeen percent identified as mainline Protestant, 13% as evangelical Protestant and 24% as Roman Catholic, while 8% identified with some other religion. Thirty-eight percent of patients did not identify with any religion. The proportion of women who identified as mainline Protestant declined by 24% since 2008, whereas the proportion with no affiliation increased by 38%�.
*Women who get abortions are responsible people:
85% of the women getting abortions have either part-time or full=time jobs.
45% are married or in stable relationships
59.3% have one or more children already
42.4% are aged 25 to 35
64% have attended college or have have a degree
66% plan to have children when they are financially able to provide necessities for them, and/or in a supportive relationship with a partner so their children will have two parents
64 % are using birth control: (rhythm and withdrawal are not considered birth control because their failure rate is so high).
*Women get abortions for very good reasons
The family can't financially support a child at this time.
The woman has responsibilities to work, parents, school or other children.
“I am too immature to raise a child�
Denying abortion in cases of unwanted pregnancies creates children that grow up with huge social problems.
*Conservatives created the marriage destroying legislation of aid to single mothers only.

Oops! We’re lost. | UC San Francisco
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/Digitization/140517NCJRS.pdf
Females in the US Workforce
Characteristics of U.S. Abortion Patients in 2014 and Changes Since 2008 | Guttmacher Institute
Aid to Families with Dependent Children - Wikipedia
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Your first link is broken.
 
Dayton3 said:
If people followed my belief system then neither abortion nor venereal diseases would be an issue.
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Red states are rather horrendous in those areas because of it. Abstinance only education never worked. Buh buh it worked for me! Is not an argument worth considering.
 
Dayton3 said:
If people followed my belief system then neither abortion nor venereal diseases would be an issue.
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But people's lives overall would suck more. You've told me you dont even care how or what your wife feels during sex.

Yeah...not how people really should have to go thru life.

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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Integrityrespec said:
95% of women who killed their unborn babies don't want to admit they murdered their own child.
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Who the hell gave the right to judge anybody let alone women and their families that you don't know; have no idea about their resources, finances, emotional stability, number of children, stresses, living conditions ............. nothing, nada. You have no idea why those women couldn't care for a child or another child
It is beyond your authority to judge women and their pregnancies, children, abortions, life style, partners, environment and morality. You do not know them, you cannot judge them.
 
AlphaOmega said:
If you find yourself getting an abortion for anything except a medical reason then by default you are not a responsible person. There goes your "facts."
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You know that is not true. Stop lying.
 
AlphaOmega said:
A responsible person doesn't have sex if they cant handle the repercussions. It's not debatable. By definition that make them irresponsible.
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Responsible people use contraception when they have sex. There is no reason to assume just because a woman got pregnant she was not using contraception.
 
Lursa said:
But people's lives overall would suck more. You've told me you dont even care how or what your wife feels during sex.

Yeah...not how people really should have to go thru life.
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Why not?
 
Why do anti-choicers keep saying women who have sex with contraception are being irresponsible? When all they say is "have sex" that always includes every woman who uses contraception when she has sexual intercourse.
 
Blue Donkey said:
Responsible people use contraception when they have sex. There is no reason to assume just because a woman got pregnant she was not using contraception.
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No responsible people only have sex if they are mature enough fo handle the outcome. Reaponaible peoole taught their children that contraceptives are not 100%.
 
AlphaOmega said:
If you find yourself getting an abortion for anything except a medical reason then by default you are not a responsible person. There goes your "facts".
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Just so you know; it isn't up to you to define "responsible" for me or anyone else but yourself. And that's a fact as well.

If I had ever gotten pregnant in the past (thankfully that never happened), I would have gotten an abortion for a very simple reason; I didn't want pregnancy or a baby. Whether or not you or any other prolifer thought about it would have been completely irrelevant to me.
 
weaver2 said:
What gives you the power to make that decision for women?
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Absolutely nothing. No matter how often prolife guys delude themselves into thinking they have it.
 
Dayton3 said:
If you've got all those problems you shouldn't be having sex in the first place.
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That's not up to you to decide, for anyone else but yourself. Nor should it ever be. Each woman has the right to decide for herself when and under what circumstances to have sex. Whether or not you approve is irrelevant.
 
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