Abortion.

bongsaway · Jul 2, 2020

We know how republicans feel about abortion, it's murder. The gop is the party that cares about human lives? Or is it they just care about a fetus?

If republicans cared so much about life, why no masks to help prevent the spread of this virus? Why the push to reopen everything? We see what's happening and yet the republicans are still all for people going back to work like everything is normal. You going to send your kids back to school with this virus running rampant? The economy, the economy, the economy, that's all we hear. Screw the people who might get the virus and really too too bad if you die from it, the economy.

Republicans, please tell us again how you care about your fellow americans.

Bodi · Jul 2, 2020

bongsaway said:
We know how republicans feel about abortion, it's murder. The gop is the party that cares about human lives? Or is it they just care about a fetus?

If republicans cared so much about life, why no masks to help prevent the spread of this virus? Why the push to reopen everything? We see what's happening and yet the republicans are still all for people going back to work like everything is normal. You going to send your kids back to school with this virus running rampant? The economy, the economy, the economy, that's all we hear. Screw the people who might get the virus and really too too bad if you die from it, the economy.

Republicans, please tell us again how you care about your fellow americans.

I am 100% pro-choice but what so many liberals/pro-choicers don't seem to get is that Republicans are about personal responsibility and self-reliance. ... That means if you get pregnant you be responsible and have the baby... once you have the baby you take care of the child... that they do not have to wear masks if they do not want to and it is up to you (others) to take care of themselves to ensure that they do not get COVID. They are not forcing you to wear a mask either and if they get sick you will not hear them complain about it because they did not take care of themselves and they don't want to hear others whine about getting sick either. That kind of mentality. It actually makes a lot of sense and I have always marveled at how liberals just can't understand it.

Crovax · Jul 2, 2020

bongsaway said:
We know how republicans feel about abortion, it's murder. The gop is the party that cares about human lives? Or is it they just care about a fetus?

If republicans cared so much about life, why no masks to help prevent the spread of this virus? Why the push to reopen everything? We see what's happening and yet the republicans are still all for people going back to work like everything is normal. You going to send your kids back to school with this virus running rampant? The economy, the economy, the economy, that's all we hear. Screw the people who might get the virus and really too too bad if you die from it, the economy.

Republicans, please tell us again how you care about your fellow americans.

As a Republican I support a “Right to life amendment” which would comprise of 4 things: Ban abortion, Ban the death penalty, ban assisted suicide and create a universal healthcare system

bongsaway · Jul 2, 2020

Bodhisattva said:
I am 100% pro-choice but what so many liberals/pro-choicers don't seem to get is that Republicans are about personal responsibility and self-reliance. ... That means if you get pregnant you be responsible and have the baby... once you have the baby you take care of the child... that they do not have to wear masks if they do not want to and it is up to you (others) to take care of themselves to ensure that they do not get COVID. They are not forcing you to wear a mask either and if they get sick you will not hear them complain about it because they did not take care of themselves and they don't want to hear others whine about getting sick either. That kind of mentality. It actually makes a lot of sense and I have always marveled at how liberals just can't understand it.

That mentality is to me, I'm out for me and I don't care about you. Personal responsibility bullcrap, that's just another little slogan they like to tell each other but it means nothing. Show me a single republican who sent back their $1200.00 check. Republicans are no more personally responsible than democrats.

You know what else you won't hear from republicans? Ooops, we screwed up by pushing the country to reopen and now look at the spike in the virus. Personal responsibility, uh huh.

bongsaway · Jul 2, 2020

Crovax said:
As a Republican I support a “Right to life amendment” which would comprise of 4 things: Ban abortion, Ban the death penalty, ban assisted suicide and create a universal healthcare system

We put down animals who are suffering but if it's a human, suck it up. Stop imposing your religious beliefs into politics. I'm for choice, my choice not yours.

Tanngrisnir · Jul 2, 2020

Bodhisattva said:
I am 100% pro-choice but what so many liberals/pro-choicers don't seem to get is that Republicans are about personal responsibility and self-reliance. ... That means if you get pregnant you be responsible and have the baby... once you have the baby you take care of the child... that they do not have to wear masks if they do not want to and it is up to you (others) to take care of themselves to ensure that they do not get COVID. They are not forcing you to wear a mask either and if they get sick you will not hear them complain about it because they did not take care of themselves and they don't want to hear others whine about getting sick either. That kind of mentality. It actually makes a lot of sense and I have always marveled at how liberals just can't understand it.

No, that's what Republicans give lip service to. They've never actually been about personal responsibility and self-reliance.

It's called 'marketing' and it's designed to fool suckers, rubes and easy marks. Apparently it's working.

trixare4kids · Jul 2, 2020

Crovax said:
As a Republican I support a “Right to life amendment” which would comprise of 4 things: Ban abortion, Ban the death penalty, ban assisted suicide and create a universal healthcare system

Interesting.
You ought to consider starting a thread on the above in general politics.

BrotherFease · Jul 2, 2020

I am pro-life and pro-mask. So I don't know how I fit into the OP's premise. I also oppose capital punishment.

trixare4kids · Jul 2, 2020

bongsaway said:
We put down animals who are suffering but if it's a human, suck it up. Stop imposing your religious beliefs into politics. I'm for choice, my choice not yours.

This is rich in light of the fact that the left imposes their quote unquote moral beliefs into politics.

Your team really is no better than the religious right, the latter I have no interest in defending when it comes to the Constitution.

bongsaway · Jul 2, 2020

trixare4kids said:
This is rich in light of the fact that the left imposes their quote unquote moral beliefs into politics.

Your team really is no better than the religious right, the latter I have no interest in defending when it comes to the Constitution.

Oh please don't give me that constitution stuff.

trixare4kids · Jul 2, 2020

BrotherFease said:
I am pro-life and pro-mask. So I don't know how I fit into the OP's premise. I also oppose capital punishment.

I am pro-choice, and personally I am pro-mask, realizing not everyone must see it like I do. I too oppose capital punishment.

Bodi · Jul 2, 2020

bongsaway said:
That mentality is to me, I'm out for me and I don't care about you. Personal responsibility bullcrap, that's just another little slogan they like to tell each other but it means nothing. Show me a single republican who sent back their $1200.00 check. Republicans are no more personally responsible than democrats.

You know what else you won't hear from republicans? Ooops, we screwed up by pushing the country to reopen and now look at the spike in the virus. Personal responsibility, uh huh.

See... you don't get it. Instead you want to argue about how they are wrong. They are not wrong. They are different.

They are not "I'm out for me and I don't care about you" they are "I do me and you do you"...\

Why do they have to send back the checks?

I did not say that they are more personally responsible than Dems... I said that is what their mentality is about first and foremost. Just look, you talk about them "screwing up" by reopening too soon. They don't think that it should have been shut for so long in the first place. That is just a different way to look at the problem. They think, 'hey, you have a pre-existing condition then you should quarantine yourself and because we should not screw up our life and income for something that will not really affect us, if at all." But you think "we should all shut everything down, income be damned, because we should all look out for everybody". Why are you right? You aren't.

Crovax · Jul 2, 2020

bongsaway said:
We put down animals who are suffering but if it's a human, suck it up. Stop imposing your religious beliefs into politics. I'm for choice, my choice not yours.

And what religious beliefs would those be?

trixare4kids · Jul 2, 2020

bongsaway said:
Oh please don't give me that constitution stuff.

Not my fault you missed the point. Go back and think about what I wrote. Religious right is about as bad as the sjw's of the left.
Both need to stfu.

bongsaway · Jul 2, 2020

Crovax said:
And what religious beliefs would those be?

Are you trying to tell me I'm wrong? All of your I would do away with these things are based on religious beliefs. Am I wrong? I don't need to know the particulars of your belief in a god or what religion you belong too. I can see the overall effect.

BrotherFease · Jul 2, 2020

trixare4kids said:
I am pro-choice, and personally I am pro-mask, realizing not everyone must see it like I do. I too oppose capital punishment.

As you can tell, I am not a fan of the premise of the original post from the progressive poster. There's no magical connection between being pro-life/pro-choice and being pro-mask/anti-mask. The concept that mask wearing is somehow ideological or based on ones Presidential preference, seems disturbing to me.

My feeling here is that the government messed up. They should have said "wear a mask" and social distance. Shutting down the 50% of the economy proved to be devastating.

Crovax · Jul 2, 2020

bongsaway said:
Are you trying to tell me I'm wrong? All of your I would do away with these things are based on religious beliefs. Am I wrong? I don't need to know the particulars of your belief in a god or what religion you belong too. I can see the overall effect.

You would rather denigrate my beliefs or lack there of than debate the merits of my ideas. I do see now why you want to be treated like an animal.

Crovax · Jul 2, 2020

trixare4kids said:
Interesting.
You ought to consider starting a thread on the above in general politics.

I believe I did a few years ago. It seems to be a very disagreeable idea to a lot of people

bongsaway · Jul 2, 2020

Crovax said:
You would rather denigrate my beliefs or lack there of than debate the merits of my ideas. I do see now why you want to be treated like an animal.

You want to believe in an invisible entity, go for it. I didn't denigrate your beliefs, I told you where your choices come from, religious beliefs.

I'm against your suggestions. There I debated you.

Crovax · Jul 2, 2020

bongsaway said:
You want to believe in an invisible entity, go for it. I didn't denigrate your beliefs, I told you where your choices come from, religious beliefs.

I'm against your suggestions. There I debated you.

Which I pointed out was inaccurate, yet here you are again tilting at that windmill

Lursa · Jul 2, 2020

Bodhisattva said:
I am 100% pro-choice but what so many liberals/pro-choicers don't seem to get is that Republicans are about personal responsibility and self-reliance. ... That means if you get pregnant you be responsible and have the baby... once you have the baby you take care of the child... that they do not have to wear masks if they do not want to and it is up to you (others) to take care of themselves to ensure that they do not get COVID. They are not forcing you to wear a mask either and if they get sick you will not hear them complain about it because they did not take care of themselves and they don't want to hear others whine about getting sick either. That kind of mentality. It actually makes a lot of sense and I have always marveled at how liberals just can't understand it.

It's perfectly responsible to have an abortion. It cannot be denied...if you do, please explain how.

--There's nothing responsible about having a kid you cant afford and expecting tax payers to take up that burden with public assistance.

--There's nothing responsible about having a kid you arent emotionally prepared to have and may abuse or neglect.

--There's nothing responsible about having a kid if you know you wont stop drinking, smoking, doing drugs, etc that will damage the unborn.

--There's nothing responsible about remaining pregnant and dropping out of high school or college or missing work and not fulfilling your potential in society.

--There's nothing responsible about remaining pregnant/having a child and not being able to fulfill your other commitments and obligations to family, dependents, employer, church, community, society.

--There's nothing responsible about having a kid and giving it up for adoption when there are already over 100,000 kids in America waiting to be adopted. It means one less waiting will find a home.

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa

trixare4kids · Jul 2, 2020

Crovax said:
I believe I did a few years ago. It seems to be a very disagreeable idea to a lot of people

Too bad for them. It's still a worthy topic.

Lursa · Jul 2, 2020

trixare4kids said:
Interesting.
You ought to consider starting a thread on the above in general politics.

****! I'd be against that 100%.

I'm not really a supporter of the death penalty because the research shows it's not a deterrent to crime, I believe we use it just as vengeance, which I believe is wrong.

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa

Lursa · Jul 2, 2020

trixare4kids said:
This is rich in light of the fact that the left imposes their quote unquote moral beliefs into politics.

Your team really is no better than the religious right, the latter I have no interest in defending when it comes to the Constitution.

??? Our 'moral beliefs' are not imposed on anyone. That's what 'pro-choice' means.

And gay marriage doesnt affect anyone else's marriages. What are you thinking of?

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa

trixare4kids · Jul 2, 2020

Lursa said:
It's perfectly responsible to have an abortion. It cannot be denied...if you do, please explain how.

--There's nothing responsible about having a kid you cant afford and expecting tax payers to take up that burden with public assistance.

--There's nothing responsible about having a kid you arent emotionally prepared to have and may abuse or neglect.

--There's nothing responsible about having a kid if you know you wont stop drinking, smoking, doing drugs, etc that will damage the unborn.

--There's nothing responsible about remaining pregnant and dropping out of high school or college or missing work and not fulfilling your potential in society.

--There's nothing responsible about remaining pregnant/having a child and not being able to fulfill your other commitments and obligations to family, dependents, employer, church, community, society.

--There's nothing responsible about having a kid and giving it up for adoption when there are already over 100,000 kids in America waiting to be adopted. It means one less waiting will find a home.

In most cases an act of irresponsibility led to a pregnancy.
The act of abotioon doesn't erase the above irresponsibility.

Abortion.

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