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Pro-life or anti-choice?

Peter King said:
Yeah, being forced to serve your husband, keep the house clean, the kids fed, etc. etc. etc. etc. for 60 plus years and have a lot of children/serve and clean after those kids, while not being allowed to work, be free, to study, to have your own bank account, to make medical decisions about your body, choose what they want to do themselves is having it SOO good.

And if you go to war and risk going dying, you would be doing it for the country you love. Another thing women weren't allowed to do for just about forever. Just like not being a priest/bishop, etc. etc. etc.
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women were allowed to stay at home while men were forced to die in war and be in a job 12 hours a day that would shorten their life span by 10 years to feed their kids

every heard of women and children first, yeah MEN DIED ON THE TITANIC WHILE WOMEN WERE RESCUED

white women have had the best in America
 
Peter King said:
You did read the post you replied too? I am pretty darned sure OceanBlues1 wrote:



So your response is just totally illogical because if she serves her boss, SHE WILL GET PAID or else she would be a slave. And ain't nobody wants that.

So no, slaves are not everywhere.
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it is not slavery to be a mother, it is rewarding
 
TypicalRussian said:
it is not an accident, you damm well know the consequences if you have sex

and thats the porblem, you control your raging hormones and use it in everyday use, monkeys do this already in the wild but if they are in zoos they masturbate like crazy, in the comfortable world, boys and girls who cant control their hormones will be worse off than those who can, its primitive instinct, they earn more and that is the biggest thing, it isnt about smartness, race, or any other factor, its all about wealth, it is the biggest human divide.

"The world offers you comfort. But you were not made for comfort. You were made for greatness."-Pope Benedict XVI

control it like you were meant to, but the rampant culture of porn, and degeneracy is what influences kids

another way to avoid abortion is make the women feel like they are a lot better options and killing it is bad

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No, we humans control the consequences of sex.

Pope Benedict is a joke, a person who does not have sex is not an advisor for anything. The world is hard, it does not offer comfort, we have made our comfort ourselves, despite religions.

And porn does not degenerate kids if they WERE properly EDUCATED about SEX and how porn is nothing like SEX!!!

And we do not limit abortions by tricking women by offering so-called options, it starts from the ground up, from a young age, not by giving options but by taking this whole issue seriously.
 
TypicalRussian said:
it does have rights because IT IS fully human being that is diffident from everyone else
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A ZEF does not have rights. The mother/pregnant woman has rights. It is a person/a live human being.
 
TypicalRussian said:
do what you want but most women are already provided for
women pay less taxes yet consume 70% of the economy
it is either both are not expected to fill their tradional roles or both are
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Women earn less so they pay less in taxes. How is that fair to men.
Women consume 70% of the economy? By consume I'm assuming you mean buying all the groceries and clothing everyone including the husband, school supplies, Christmas shopping, birthday presents, car payment, mortgage payments, the utility bills, all those things that men don't do. This is not controlling the economy.
 
TypicalRussian said:
women were allowed to stay at home while men were forced to die in war and be in a job 12 hours a day that would shorten their life span by 10 years to feed their kids

every heard of women and children first, yeah MEN DIED ON THE TITANIC WHILE WOMEN WERE RESCUED

white women have had the best in America
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You really do not have a clue about women do you. The white women have had the best in America? :lamo

Allowed to stay at home? Clueless, really clueless.

You do know that approx. 400,000 women served in the armed forces during WW2?

More than 600,000 women served as Army nurses in WW2.

During the second world war, women formed between 25% and more than 29% of the workforce.

The life expectancy of men has never 10 years less than women. It is the arrogance of men in general who think they had to work incredibly hard and women "did not".
 
Free Thinker said:
The trouble with acting like this to get laid is who you have to lay after you score enough femmy points.:(
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How many feminists must I pander to in order to get my dick wet?
 
TypicalRussian said:
......another way to avoid abortion is make the women feel like they are a lot better options and killing it is bad
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Can some man explain why it matters to him that women he will never know get an abortions? How does it effect his life in Bangor, Maine if some women in Eugene, Oregon gets an abortion. He's not the least bit interested in the woman in Redding, California who suffered a broken arm and blinded eye from domestic abuse. What's his compelling interest in the woman in Eugene, Oregon.
 
weaver2 said:
Can some man explain why it matters to him that women he will never know get an abortions? How does it effect his life in Bangor, Maine if some women in Eugene, Oregon gets an abortion. He's not the least bit interested in the woman in Redding, California who suffered a broken arm and blinded eye from domestic abuse. What's his compelling interest in the woman in Eugene, Oregon.
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The same compelling interest as in any far away place where genocide is taking place.

BTW I'm from Veneta
 
Free Thinker said:
The same compelling interest as in any far away place where genocide is taking place.

BTW I'm from Veneta
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Sorry I thought I detected the typical northern, non-Frankaphone male Mainer.

The definition of genocide is not a woman getting an abortion so she can keep her job, keep her family out of poverty, off welfare, paying the rent and maintaining self respect.
 
weaver2 said:
Sorry I thought I detected the typical northern, non-Frankaphone male Mainer.

The definition of genocide is not a woman getting an abortion so she can keep her job, keep her family out of poverty, off welfare, paying the rent and maintaining self respect.
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Here in lies the rub, the self respect is eroded over time in most I have talked to. Regret can weigh heavy
 
Free Thinker said:
Here in lies the rub, the self respect is eroded over time in most I have talked to. Regret can weigh heavy
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95% of women that have had abortion do not have regrets and say it was the right thing to have done for the whole family.
 
TypicalRussian said:
yeah I thought it was bad taste

anyway, why do you think pro-lifers think like this
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Actually I prefer the term pro-illegal abortionists since banning abortion only results in more illegal abortions. What you don't get is that women are living and thinking human beings that believe they should have control of their own bodies. Making laws to control women is not effective anymore that making laws controlling drugs stop drug use. Do you have a fondness for illegal abortionists? You must since you want to make them rich at the expense of women's lives.

What Actually Happens When a Country Bans Abortion – Foreign Policy
 
Free Thinker said:
The same compelling interest as in any far away place where genocide is taking place.

BTW I'm from Veneta
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You're in the wrong thread if you're talking about genocide.
 
Free Thinker said:
I must have been lucky to only mostly talk to the 5%ers.
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Or they just lied to you because they knew your stance and wanted you to go away. Most women do not want to be chastised by arrogant men who have no business in their affairs.
 
Free Thinker said:
Yes I have primarily been around American women.
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Dismissing and denigrating American women with wit and cleverness is great fun for you. Dismissing and denigrating the real facts of abortion, poverty, self respect , family strength and success is not clever or witty. It hurts, it demeans, it diminishes. it's loutish and it's not true.
 
weaver2 said:
Dismissing and denigrating American women with wit and cleverness is great fun for you. Dismissing and denigrating the real facts of abortion, poverty, self respect , family strength and success is not clever or witty. It hurts, it demeans, it diminishes. it's loutish and it's not true.
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That is their intent.
 
weaver2 said:
Dismissing and denigrating American women with wit and cleverness is great fun for you. Dismissing and denigrating the real facts of abortion, poverty, self respect , family strength and success is not clever or witty. It hurts, it demeans, it diminishes. it's loutish and it's not true.
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Abortion forums get what they deserve. People like you all and people like me.

Discussing abortion is not now nor will it ever be fruitful in any way. Hate and discontent you can count on. The battle lines have been drawn in steel many years ago.

Some girls don't like boys like me ah, but some girls do. Thank god it's not the hairy armpits that do. That's why you guys have handles like "guru" and "sage" and alas I am but a user.
 
Free Thinker said:
Abortion forums get what they deserve. People like you all and people like me.
Discussing abortion is not now nor will it ever be fruitful in any way. Hate and discontent you can count on. The battle lines have been drawn in steel many years ago.
Some girls don't like boys like me ah, but some girls do. Thank god it's not the hairy armpits that do. That's why you guys have handles like "guru" and "sage" and alas I am but a user.
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Abortion forums get what they deserve ;which is ................. ? Discussing abortion will never be fruitful; because.............................?
 
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