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Pro-life or anti-choice?

vegas giants said:
Who makes you pay for anything? Is someone hitting you with a stick to pay? Lol
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men pay for the dates and dinners always, make this equal and then well talk about money making equality for women

 
TypicalRussian said:
men pay for the dates and dinners always, make this equal and then well talk about money making equality for women

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You do whatever you want but pay discrimination based on sex is illegal in the US
 
TypicalRussian said:
So who needs an abortion? Don't have sex = no kids.

Welcome to 7th grade sex education.
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Everyone who gets married has sex. That is part of marriage. Most couples use contraception if they want to have sex, but no kids.

Seventh grade sex education actually teaches students about puberty and the reproductive systems; abstinence is taught in ninth grade.
 
jamesbyoung said:
SCOTUS says that women have a certain right, regulated by the law, to make determinations about contraception and abortion.
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Jewish views on abortion


The Talmud, a two-part Jewish text comprised of centuries worth of thought, debate and discussion, is also helpful when discussing abortion. The Talmud explains that for the first 40 days of a woman’s pregnancy, the fetus is considered “mere fluid” and considered part of the mother until birth. The baby is considered a nefesh – Hebrew for “soul” or “spirit” – once its head has emerged, and not before.

Abortion and Judaism | My Jewish Learning

Abortion laws: Jewish faith teaches life does not start at conception
 
TypicalRussian said:
so if it is already illegal, there is no gap
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Pay gaps exist based on the type of employment.
Are there any jobs where employers have one hourly pay rate for male employees and a different hourly rate for women employees performing the exact same work?

What has this thread "Pro-life or anti-choice" to do with wage differences?
 
TypicalRussian said:
if a majority of people are Christian, it is a Christian nation.
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Not true. A majority can be barely above 50% of the people. If you don't know that, you have not even been to middle school. This is fifth grade math.
 
Individual said:
Pay gaps exist based on the type of employment.
Are there any jobs where employers have one hourly pay rate for male employees and a different hourly rate for women employees performing the exact same work?

What has this thread "Pro-life or anti-choice" to do with wage differences?
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they are no jobs like that, the wage gap is A MYTH
 
Blue Donkey said:
Everyone who gets married has sex. That is part of marriage. Most couples use contraception if they want to have sex, but no kids.

Seventh grade sex education actually teaches students about puberty and the reproductive systems; abstinence is taught in ninth grade.
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I agree with the first part

I was in a catholic school so abstinence was hammered into for me for a while
 
Blue Donkey said:
Not true. A majority can be barely above 50% of the people. If you don't know that, you have not even been to middle school. This is fifth grade math.
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In 2016, Christians represent 73.7% of the total population, 48.9% identifying as Protestants, 23.0% as Catholics, and 1.8% as Mormons, and are followed by people with no formal religious identity at 18.2% of the total population.

OVER 50%

what are you talking about!


Religion in the United States - Wikipedia.
 
TypicalRussian said:
In 2016, Christians represent 73.7% of the total population, 48.9% identifying as Protestants, 23.0% as Catholics, and 1.8% as Mormons, and are followed by people with no formal religious identity at 18.2% of the total population.

OVER 50%

What are you talking about?
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I am talking about your obvious inability to understand basic concepts that are taught to 10-year old kids.

If you had the intelligence level and ability of an 18-year old American, you would not be acting like a little kid incapable of critical and rational thinking.
 
TypicalRussian said:
less abortions is an economic factor, Europe is better economical than the US, in fact its the reason why I am an independent, when it comes to economics, i differ from conservatives(as well as Israel)

I think it is a great thing that they dont encourage abortions in the Netherlands, the biggest crime you can do to a women is telling them that killing babies is liberating and that it is better than adoption or other means
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More people forced into the US is what you claim to aspire too. Because that is what will happen if you ban abortion. Poverty, people working until almost the grave, homelessness, no health care for a lot of people, people working 3 jobs, that will all get much much much worse if you would have added 100 million extra people to the US by 2020.

Except nobody is telling women that aborting ZEF's is liberating (because again, KILLING BABIES is a CRIME), women are smart enough to make their own decisions but when you are forced to make an existential choice for you and your family, the way the US has been the enemy of what most European countries call societal support and Americans call communism. Sorry, but the way the US works it is encouraging abortions as a need to survive. Which is a tragedy but it would not happen as much if children were getting proper sex education, girls as young as 16 could go to their family doctor and ask for the pill, condoms were the norm among young people and affordable birth control would be available to all women.

If you look at the nasty comments that were directed as the lady who said she was in favor of birth control as part of health care packages, Sandra Fluke I think he name was, she was called a slut for supporting birth control.

Some people in the US are so paranoid about not telling their kids about sex that young underaged teens get pregnant way way way way more than in countries like the Netherlands were children/young teens get informed about the risks and about protecting yourself from pregnancy. And then finding it strange that women who are 23 or so and already have 3 or 4 kids would choose to have abortions rather than raising another child they can hardly afford.

If like in the Netherlands women would get children aged 25 for the first time, abortions would take a nosedive, and how do we achieve that? BIRTH CONTROL and SEX EDUCATION, respecting children to grow up more independent and make their own choices. It is what I stated before, OVER parenting can do way more damage than normal parenting. My nephews both stopped school at a very young age, even though they were harassed by their mother who was a hawk about homework, forcing them to sit in front of her making their homework. They got sick of school and sick of learning, they were browbeaten into hating school. On the other hand my mother trusted me to make my homework. She asked me and when I said I made it (even if I hadn't) she would accept it and would have me suffer the consequences if I got low grades or extra homework from my teachers. And it taught me to take responsibility, I had fun in learning and went to way higher schools than my oppressed nephews.

If you want children to not have sex, educate them. If you want them to get pregnant as 15 year old children, don't give them proper sex education. But then do not complain when later on in life those girls, who never got to learn being sexually responsible for preventing pregnancies, are semi-forced to have abortions. Because that is the cost of doing business the American way.
 
Blue Donkey said:
Not true. A majority can be barely above 50% of the people. If you don't know that, you have not even been to middle school. This is fifth grade math.
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While it may be true that most religions practices in the U.S. are based on Christianity, they can and often do differ from one another in many ways. The Nation was NOT founded on religious beliefs, but only on the freedom to exercise such beliefs within the laws created and applied to all inhabitants equally.
From the 1st Amendment of the Constitution of the United States:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;..."

It wouldn't matter if overnight 99% of the population became Christians, we would remain a secular Nation.

A co-worker once talked me into going to his Baptist Church with him one Sunday, where the sermon preached was about how the members of another nearby Baptist Church were all bound for Hell as a result of some difference between their beliefs.
 
Right

It's false to believe someone has a right to live...who in his right mind would think that?

Geez
 
TypicalRussian said:
there is a fully indepedent human free from the mon involved
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Well that is all kinds of incorrect. Independent? :lamo

This is a free independent human being free from the mom?

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Well that is absolutely and utterly untrue.
 
TypicalRussian said:
if majpiry of people are christian, it is a christian nation
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No. Just like this is not a white nation or woman nation simply because the majority are those things. We are a secular nation because our laws are not based on any religious tenants.

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TypicalRussian said:
no because men pay for the dinner, house, food, children education, etc

stop making men pay for everything in the relationship and then well talk about equality

women are not attracted to poorer men by their nature, they have evolved to be provided for and the best who can provide in marriage wins
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When we met and throughout our first year of marriage, I made more than my husband, being in fact the breadwinner. While now he makes more, I still pay for the utilities and almost all the food expenses as well as most of what our boys need from money I earn. Our expenses are shared. Which is how many families live.

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