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What attracts anti-abortion males to this site?

To defend innocent life.

Can you please explain why you value an 'innocence' of nothingness? The unborn cannot think, cannot act, cannot even form intent. That 'innocence' is no different than the 'innocence' of a flower or a couch. That is the 'innocence' of a vacuum, of emptiness. Can you please explain why you value that over the entirety of a woman's life and future?

And what is the woman guilty of?

Still hoping for an answer to this. Almost no one ever does answer it, so I keep asking...because I just dont get it.
 
A father requires an actual child. You use the term for emotional pleading rather than stating a fact. The words you should use is your the guy who played a part in not bothering to use contraceptives.

Yes, it does require and actual child. Good thing one exists.
 
What we can do though is point out the hypocrisy of your morality. A moral judgement you make about the actions of women while ignoring that you are denying a right to woman that you hold yourself.

I do not hold for myself the right to commit murder.
 
How many women attempt or commit suicide? Do you think none of them wish they were aborted?

My bio sister committed suicide. As did my adopted brother. I'm pretty sure both of them wished they had been aborted.
 
Yes. The alternative is something you got from the DNC talking points.

Do aborting mothers ever care for the unborn?

Yes. When they know they can't give them the life they should have. Or when the unborn have severe anomalies that will make their lives full of pain. They do what they feel best.

BTW, a woman is not a mother unless she's given birth or adopted a child.
 
Yes you do, every time you hold up your own right to bodily autonomy that you are immorally denying women.

No, I do not. You are making up incoherent nonsense, come back when you have an argument
 
Show me a dictionary that includes "abortion" in its definition of murder.

We’re talking as a moral act. The definition as politically written in a dictionary is irrelevant.
 
We’re talking as a moral act. The definition as politically written in a dictionary is irrelevant.

No, we are not talking about morality. We are talking about what is LEGAL and how legally abortion and murder are completely different.

Morals are subjective. Laws are objective. Learn the difference.
 
Yes, I understand that is what some people think.

It is not an opinion. It is an extremely obvious fact. There is absolutely no reason to force other people to believe the lies you were taught about abortion.
 
Who ia wrong about what Dacke?
 
I am one of many who disagrees. At least if the abortion is carried out past 12 weeks.

OK Lets talk about timelines for legal abortions. What's acceptable and what's not and why. What makes sense and what doesn't. There's a meeting point possible here with an actual rational topic that intelligent people can discuss. Everybody should be interested in something rational about abortion for a change. Those that still want to scream murderer at women and those that believe in a homunculus theory of procreation do not have anything to contribute. .
 
Yes. When they know they can't give them the life they should have. Or when the unborn have severe anomalies that will make their lives full of pain. They do what they feel best.

BTW, a woman is not a mother unless she's given birth or adopted a child.

You need to get to my daughter and daughter in law. Foolish girls were so excited to show off their baby bumps and talk about being mothers.


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Daughters with morals. Every woman is someone's daughter, and every fetus is a grandchild.
No, you cannot have a grandchild before that grandchild is born. Neither does any parent have the right to control the choices of their pregnant daughter.


There is a delete button on the edit page FYI.
Thank you. I will try to remember it.
 
No, I do not. You are making up incoherent nonsense, come back when you have an argument

You have a right to bodily autonomy. No one can force you to donate a kidney in order to save a life. Even though 10,000 people per year die because of a lack of donors. The right not to donate and say no to those who will die because of that is what you immorally have according to your own interpretation of morality. Not to mention your immoral stance of demanding that right to bodily autonomy which you then deny to woman.
 
Can you please explain why you value an 'innocence' of nothingness? The unborn cannot think, cannot act, cannot even form intent. That 'innocence' is no different than the 'innocence' of a flower or a couch. That is the 'innocence' of a vacuum, of emptiness. Can you please explain why you value that over the entirety of a woman's life and future?

And what is the woman guilty of?

What a short-sighted thought pattern. The potential of being a human being, a son or daughter! And men belong here just as much as women, abortion adversely affects us also!
 
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