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    Re: What attracts anti-abortion males to this site?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    I don't normally participate in such threads. I cannot strand listening to people who seem to have no concern for the rresults of their irresponsibility.
    American women know when they have sex, if they get pregnant, that they have a few responsible options, abortion is one of them.

    Perhaps this list will put your mind at rest. I'm sure it could be longer.

    --There's nothing responsible about having a kid you cant afford and expecting tax payers to take up that burden with public assistance.
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    --There's nothing responsible about having a kid you arent emotionally prepared to have and believe you may abuse or neglect.
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    --There's nothing responsible about having a kid if you know you wont stop drinking, smoking, doing drugs, etc that will damage the unborn.
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    --There's nothing responsible about remaining pregnant and dropping out of high school or college or missing work and not fulfilling your potential in society.
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    --There's nothing responsible about remaining pregnant/having a child and not being able to fulfill your other commitments and obligations to family, dependents, employer, church, community, society.
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    --There's nothing responsible about having a kid and giving it up for adoption when there are already over 100,000 kids in America waiting to be adopted. It means one less child waiting will find a home. Those children waiting may be suffering, the unborn suffers nothing.

    Doesnt this demonstrate that abortion can indeed be a responsible option? If not, why not?
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    Re: What attracts anti-abortion males to this site?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Not many, but at least many states are limiting third trimester abortions.
    If they are having an abortion that late in the pregnancy, it is for life or health of the mother or a severe deformity, life impacting condition of the fetus. If you have evidence to the contrary, post it. It should be from a non biased, reputable source.

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    Re: What attracts anti-abortion males to this site?

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    I don’t know of anyone in the pro-life movement who supports murder after birth.
    Murder is a legal term. Plenty support various reasons killing is justified after birth. Murder is only murder when someone is killed in a way that violates a law, cannot be legally justified.

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    Re: What attracts anti-abortion males to this site?

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    The death penalty is not murder.

    There is no moral construction which makes the death penalty per se murder. Civil authorities have the obligation to protect the public peace and to punish offenses against such. You as the individual have no such prerogative to wantonly cause another’s death
    Neither is abortion.

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    Re: What attracts anti-abortion males to this site?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    The same number as the number of death row inmates who are executed 1 minute before they successfully escape prison.
    How many abortions occur within a time frame that if 1 minute later they were born, they would survive?

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    Re: What attracts anti-abortion males to this site?

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    The constitution to the extent it authorizes murder is wrong and I do not accept the constitution as a sufficient argument to establish morality
    Your morality doesnt have any bearing on the Constitution or its protections for actual born people.

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    Re: What attracts anti-abortion males to this site?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Not at all. It's a person's value that doesn't make the distinction between viable tissue and a child.

    Why is it that inside the womb, it's OK to kill the innocent life, but 1 minute later when born, it's not?

    This doesn't make sense to me. Other than an excuse to to shoulder the burden.
    Because when it is born it is no longer physically attached to its mother and free to interact with the real world and conceptualise all of its expressions. An unborn baby is, just as the prefix signifies, not born and what is not born is not an individual and thus cannot have any rights.
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    Re: What attracts anti-abortion males to this site?

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    The death penalty is not murder.

    There is no moral construction which makes the death penalty per se murder. Civil authorities have the obligation to protect the public peace and to punish offenses against such. You as the individual have no such prerogative to wantonly cause another’s death
    Abortion is not murder.

    There is no construction which makes abortion per se murder. Civil authorities have the obligation to preotect each and every citizen's right to liberty and to punish those who try to infringe upon or restrict this right.Only you as an individual have the right to make decisions about your own life and body.
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    Re: What attracts anti-abortion males to this site?

    Quote Originally Posted by soylentgreen View Post
    Coming from a climate change denier, a person who cares nothing for the lives destroyed so long as you can push an idiot ideology, how hypocritical.




    You do not have a moral reason when you cannot even describe why the word innocent is being used for something that has done nothing to be labeled innocent or guilty.

    Your not thinking something is not a good reason to assume something is so.
    Your thinking is really alien to me. As for your name-calling.... I am not a climate denier. You are obviously too ignorant to know the difference between denying science and being a proper scientific skeptic. I subscribe to several scientific journals that contain peer reviewed papers, and I read that material rather than the pundits out there. The fact that you use the improper label "denier" shows you are indoctrinated as well.

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    Re: What attracts anti-abortion males to this site?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    American women know when they have sex, if they get pregnant, that they have a few responsible options, abortion is one of them.

    Perhaps this list will put your mind at rest. I'm sure it could be longer.

    --There's nothing responsible about having a kid you cant afford and expecting tax payers to take up that burden with public assistance.
    *
    --There's nothing responsible about having a kid you arent emotionally prepared to have and believe you may abuse or neglect.
    *
    --There's nothing responsible about having a kid if you know you wont stop drinking, smoking, doing drugs, etc that will damage the unborn.
    *
    --There's nothing responsible about remaining pregnant and dropping out of high school or college or missing work and not fulfilling your potential in society.
    *
    --There's nothing responsible about remaining pregnant/having a child and not being able to fulfill your other commitments and obligations to family, dependents, employer, church, community, society.
    *
    --There's nothing responsible about having a kid and giving it up for adoption when there are already over 100,000 kids in America waiting to be adopted. It means one less child waiting will find a home. Those children waiting may be suffering, the unborn suffers nothing.

    Doesnt this demonstrate that abortion can indeed be a responsible option? If not, why not?
    The irresponsibility is having sex if you are not prepared for the risk of getting pregnant. Claiming abortion as an option makes it even worse, and now you are including abortion as birth control alternatives.

    I'm sorry, to me this is idiotic. I wonder what other ways people conduct irresponsibility in life.
    A Joe Biden type remark:

    "People are dying who haven't died before."

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