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What attracts anti-abortion males to this site?

weaver2 said:
Ninety percent of the males that post on the abortion site are rabidly anti-abortion. They post statements about the law, women, abortion, pregnancy, fetuses that are simply untrue. They make accusations about women that are ignorant and rude. They ignore sourced material proving them to be lying and go right back to posting the same lies. They make up impossible situations then demand women defend themselves against these nonsense scenarios.

Why do they post here? They don't have a good grasp of the subject. Are they trying to scold women into abandoning the pro-choice position? Teach them who is boss. Shame shame women into obedience?


Anti-abortion men; what's your purpose for being on this thread?
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Because we are fathers.
 
Fishking said:
Because we are fathers.
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How does that make men any smarter about abortion than the women who are forced to suffer mentally and physically if not allowed to get the medical care they need?
 
weaver2 said:
Ninety percent of the males that post on the abortion site are rabidly anti-abortion. They post statements about the law, women, abortion, pregnancy, fetuses that are simply untrue. They make accusations about women that are ignorant and rude. They ignore sourced material proving them to be lying and go right back to posting the same lies. They make up impossible situations then demand women defend themselves against these nonsense scenarios.

Why do they post here? They don't have a good grasp of the subject. Are they trying to scold women into abandoning the pro-choice position? Teach them who is boss. Shame shame women into obedience?


Anti-abortion men; what's your purpose for being on this thread?
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Daughters with morals. Every woman is someone's daughter, and every fetus is a grandchild.
 
Blue Donkey said:
How does that make men any smarter about abortion than the women who are forced to suffer mentally and physically if not allowed to get the medical care they need?
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I didn't say it made anyone smarter. You did.
 
smallvoice said:
Daughters with morals. Every woman is someone's daughter, and every fetus is a grandchild.
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How many women attempt or commit suicide? Do you think none of them wish they were aborted?
 
Blue Donkey said:
Does anyone on the anti-choice side care about the baby's life after it is born? Is only its mere existence important to them?

Pro-choicers care about what would happen to unwanted babies if they could not be cared for properly. I never saw this concern from a pro-lifer.
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Well, that easy. The aborting mother (the poster child for anti-choice), doesn't care. Society has NO OBLIGATION to care for babies and children. Society does what is needed out of necessity because the birth parents are failing in their responsibility.
 
smallvoice said:
Well, that easy. The aborting mother (the poster child for anti-choice), doesn't care. Society has NO OBLIGATION to care for babies and children. Society does what is needed out of necessity because the birth parents are failing in their responsibility.
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You did not answer my question. DO ANTI-CHOICERS CARE ABOUT THE BABIES AFTER THEY ARE BORN? Yes or no.
 
Blue Donkey said:
You did not answer my question. DO ANTI-CHOICERS CARE ABOUT THE BABIES AFTER THEY ARE BORN? Yes or no.
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Yes. The alternative is something you got from the DNC talking points.

Do aborting mothers ever care for the unborn?
 
smallvoice said:
Yes. The alternative is something you got from the DNC talking points.

Do aborting mothers ever care for the unborn?
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I am not talking about the DNC or mothers who abort their pregnancies. My question is all about the people who want to prohibit abortions.

What future do you expect for these unwanted babies who could not be cared for by their own parents?
 
Lord of Planar said:
Your thinking is really alien to me. As for your name-calling.... I am not a climate denier. You are obviously too ignorant to know the difference between denying science and being a proper scientific skeptic. I subscribe to several scientific journals that contain peer reviewed papers, and I read that material rather than the pundits out there. The fact that you use the improper label "denier" shows you are indoctrinated as well.

Good day.
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I understand the difference and yours is not sceptism. It is the following of an ideology. It is doing what you are doing here. Ignoring the subject at hand which is your questionable reasoning of innocence
 
weaver2 said:
OK let's say that's what you are doing. Why here? Why on this site?
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I must assume that a high percentage of men who post attacks or down beatings in this thread silently believe,

"Let me tell these women they should be in the kitchen, cleaning up my mess and caring for as many babies as I impregnate her with.
Who the hell do they think they are?"

Most are too dishonest to admit it.
 
Lord of Planar said:
The irresponsibility is having sex if you are not prepared for the risk of getting pregnant. Claiming abortion as an option makes it even worse, and now you are including abortion as birth control alternatives.

I'm sorry, to me this is idiotic. I wonder what other ways people conduct irresponsibility in life.
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That is as ridiculous as saying the irresponsibility is driving a car if you are not prepared for a crash. Accidents by definition are not planned for, are prepared against, but can still happen. And as it would also be ridiculous to think that woman have sex with the deliberate plan of getting an abortion if becoming pregnant.

What is idiotic here is thinking we can live in an accident free bubble.
 
Lord of Planar said:
The irresponsibility is having sex if you are not prepared for the risk of getting pregnant. Claiming abortion as an option makes it even worse, and now you are including abortion as birth control alternatives.

I'm sorry, to me this is idiotic. I wonder what other ways people conduct irresponsibility in life.
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I never said women use abortion for birth control...is adoption birth control? They are both options for an unplanned pregnancy. Since at least 2/3 of couples use birth control, they arent irresponsible either.

That you deny all those things in the list are responsible actions, you proved I was correct...you are so blindly biased that you cannot accept the accurate definitions of words. Well, no wonder I see you fail so often in a medium like online forums where words are important.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
It is the intentional infliction of death on another human being by an individual. Which is always murder, the exact text of the penal code not withstanding it is murder on a moral level.

If the penal code was amended to declare any other group of human beings less then human and could be killed on your whim that does not make that action right.

You keep trying to argue the exact wording of specific laws as an argument. It is irrelevant, I don’t recognize the penal code as the final arbiter of morality. We know what murder is and you can’t defend abortion without weasel word definitions.
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What we can do though is point out the hypocrisy of your morality. A moral judgement you make about the actions of women while ignoring that you are denying a right to woman that you hold yourself.
 
smallvoice said:
Well, that easy. The aborting mother (the poster child for anti-choice), doesn't care. Society has NO OBLIGATION to care for babies and children. Society does what is needed out of necessity because the birth parents are failing in their responsibility.
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Where is it written that a pregnant woman is obligated to carry a pregnancy to term? Where is it written that society is entitled to demand she do so against her will? Most ESPECIALLY when that same society...as you claim...is then not be obligated to help her care for the child she knew couldnt afford to care for to begin with?

How does that not sound insanely hypocritical?
 
Fishking said:
Because we are fathers.
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A father requires an actual child. You use the term for emotional pleading rather than stating a fact. The words you should use is your the guy who played a part in not bothering to use contraceptives.
 
smallvoice said:
Well, that easy. The aborting mother (the poster child for anti-choice), doesn't care. Society has NO OBLIGATION to care for babies and children. Society does what is needed out of necessity because the birth parents are failing in their responsibility.
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Another hypocrite. This time one who argues no obligation for concern about others while arguing his concern of what women are doing.
 
Lord of Planar said:
I am one of many who disagrees. At least if the abortion is carried out past 12 weeks.
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97.5% of all abortions do take place before that.

And the rest are due to medical necessity (woman or unborn) that becomes apparent later.

If you disagree, feel free to provide links that support your opinion.

OTOH, if you now realize that elective abortions all do take place that early...do you still object to abortion? If so, why?
 
Lord of Planar said:
I am one of many who disagrees. At least if the abortion is carried out past 12 weeks.
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The word murder is not an adjective. It is not subjective. It is an objective verb and noun with very specific definitions that cannot be changed or interpreted in different ways. You can't agree or disagree on what the word means; only know or not know it.
 
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