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Why not adoption/foster care?

Mashmont said:
You don't sound all that happy. In fact you're seething with anger. But that's common for atheists.

Natural consequences for immorality such as sex outside marriage include higher frequency of broken relationships, fatherless children who turn to crime, and poor single mothers. I don't understand why you think those things are OK.
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1. having sex outside of marriage is not immoral, claiming it is is immoral

2. broken relationships are part of human life, usually they help women and men find the right person.

3. fatherless children can be just as happy as father having children. And if having a dad is your view of being a good thing, you must really LOVE gay adoption because these kids have TWO dads, double the right thing so to speak in your thinking.

4. children who have no father do not start committing crimes because they do not have a father

5. the reason for poor single mothers is bad government and pathetic loser men

And people are OK with having sex out of marriage and all the risks you claim this comes with, is because they are still free from religious indoctrination and that is always a good thing.

And single women do not have to be poor if they are able to abort the ZEF before they become a mother or before they have too many children to deal with on their income.
 
Mashmont said:
"anyone I choose anytime I choose"

lol.
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That comment does not mean casual sex, just that someone chooses to have sex when they want to have sex. Not pressured into sex by peers or by misogynist males.
 
Mashmont said:
You don't sound all that happy. In fact you're seething with anger. But that's common for atheists.

Natural consequences for immorality such as sex outside marriage include higher frequency of broken relationships, fatherless children who turn to crime, and poor single mothers. I don't understand why you think those things are OK.
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More evidence of your loose connection to reality I see. And you continue to lie about my being an atheist. tsk tsk.

Thank you for your answers...now please provide sources that substantiate those claims. Sex outside marriage creates broken relationships...it's called divorce and it's nearly 50% in the US. Poverty creates social issues...married and single parent...let's see those distinctions in data regarding crime stats.





This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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Mashmont said:
You blaspheme the Lord's message by saying He's for abortion and sex outside marriage. Atheists intentionally misrepresent God and Christian teaching.
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You have never provided the scriptures where the Lord condemned abortion. And you refuse to address the reasons I gave you for men of the time's writings in the BIble. Why is that? Pretty sure it's because in both cases, you are not capable of doing so.

As for lying about my being an atheist, well, your continued sin speaks for itself.

And you didnt answer but since you bring it up again, how am I misinterpreting the Word of God: compassion, forgiveness, peace, and brotherly love? And how can I be an atheist if that is the Message I try to live my life by?



This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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Mashmont said:
It's funny watching y'all trying to prop her up and pretending she didn't say what she said.
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There's absolutely nothing wrong with her choosing to enjoy sex with whomever and whenever she pleases. Good for her...she shares pleasure with someone else...what can be better than that?



This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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Mashmont said:
Unfounded? Trump is the most pro-life president since the Roe v Wade decision. He has already appointed two pro-life justices. When he wins in November, that will likely mean two more conservative pro-life seats, including that of the hateful old Marxist hag Ginsburg. So this hideous law is going DOWN.
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Again you ignore that even the dismissal of RvW would not make abortion illegal.

Are you incapable of evaluating the written word, as several of us have provided for you?

And RvW *isnt a law* :doh Jeebus, how uninformed are you on this subject? :doh
 
Peter King said:
1. having sex outside of marriage is not immoral, claiming it is is immoral

2. broken relationships are part of human life, usually they help women and men find the right person.

3. fatherless children can be just as happy as father having children. And if having a dad is your view of being a good thing, you must really LOVE gay adoption because these kids have TWO dads, double the right thing so to speak in your thinking.

4. children who have no father do not start committing crimes because they do not have a father

5. the reason for poor single mothers is bad government and pathetic loser men

And people are OK with having sex out of marriage and all the risks you claim this comes with, is because they are still free from religious indoctrination and that is always a good thing.

And single women do not have to be poor if they are able to abort the ZEF before they become a mother or before they have too many children to deal with on their income.
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An atheist blabbing about 'morality'? Are you serious? lololol.
 
Lursa said:
Again you ignore that even the dismissal of RvW would not make abortion illegal.

Are you incapable of evaluating the written word, as several of us have provided for you?

And RvW *isnt a law* :doh Jeebus, how uninformed are you on this subject? :doh
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If you paid attention, I said Roe will be overturned and made illegal in all states just as slavery was. It will not be left up to the states.
 
Lursa said:
There's absolutely nothing wrong with her choosing to enjoy sex with whomever and whenever she pleases. Good for her...she shares pleasure with someone else...what can be better than that?
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Um, sharing it with the ONE person you are married and committed to. Not with anybody you feel like any time you feel like.

This would be obvious to any real Christian.
 
Peter King said:
That comment does not mean casual sex, just that someone chooses to have sex when they want to have sex. Not pressured into sex by peers or by misogynist males.
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You conspicuously forgot the 'with whom' part.

Wonder why.

lol.
 
Peter King said:
The only reason that he is pro-life is because his target demographic is pro-life. Trump could care less because he does not care about the born again lot, the pro-life lot or the Americans in general. All he cares about not becoming a 1 term president. If he has to set back women's rights 100 years, he could not care less. If he would have to take voting rights away from latino's or black people to win, he would do so.

The man is immoral and the anti-christian itself.

And the hideous law you are talking about is the constitution and it will not change much besides women causing a revolution that will bury all republicans for 20 years to come if they do not change their anti-women stance.
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Trump was the first president in 47 years to attend the March for Life rally in Washington. We really appreciated his being there. His speech was great.
 
Mashmont said:
I just don't understand why angry people blame the best people for their misfortunes or difficulties within their families.
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That is just nonsense M. the people who abused these children are not the best people, THEY ARE THE WORST people. This is not about misfortunes, this is about child abusing scum that was protected from consequences by the church. And before this happened most of these families did not have difficulties, the difficulties were result of raping priests.

Women who choose to have an abortion if having a kid is not the right thing for them are being responsible people. Those priests and the people who moved them around so that they could do the raping in more areas were totally and utterly irresponsible to the level of actual evil. Nothing the church did until a few years ago was representative of "good people" never mind "best people" because they were in fact the worst kind of people
 
Mashmont said:
An atheist blabbing about 'morality'? Are you serious? lololol.
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yup, we have as much morality as religious people, and in some instances we are even more morally upstanding.
 
Mashmont said:
You conspicuously forgot the 'with whom' part.

Wonder why.

lol.
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Because that does not matter, with whom it matter who has the choice and power, and again, it says nothing about the sexual acts being of the casual variety. A normal woman has more than just 1 sex partner in her life, well, women who have not been indoctrinated by religious nonsense.
 
Mashmont said:
Trump was the first president in 47 years to attend the March for Life rally in Washington. We really appreciated his being there. His speech was great.
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No, he spoke there because he wants your vote, he could care less about abortion.

And again, most states will still allow abortion and those who do not are going to see a female revolution where old white conservative men are going to be booted out of office and new abortion laws will be made. Abortion laws not dictated by religious extremists but by the people it concerns, women.
 
Mashmont said:
If you paid attention, I said Roe will be overturned and made illegal in all states just as slavery was. It will not be left up to the states.
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That was several posts ago.


But please...tell me how they will make abortion illegal? They still cannot create laws that violate the Constitutional rights that protect women.

Be specific...explain.




This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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Mashmont said:
Um, sharing it with the ONE person you are married and committed to. Not with anybody you feel like any time you feel like.

This would be obvious to any real Christian.
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You are wrong as usual. Please stop writing falsehoods.

I know you're wrong...since so many people do enjoy sharing sex with people not their spouses. And there's nothing immoral about it.



This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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Mashmont said:
Trump was the first president in 47 years to attend the March for Life rally in Washington. We really appreciated his being there. His speech was great.
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He'll do anything for votes. It seems your religious cult isnt the only one that has you buffaloed.




This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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Mashmont said:
Answer to all. Close your legs if you aren't prepared to bring a child into the world. You have NO business having sex.
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Just because your outdated booklet claims this is not a good enough reason for women to stop having sex. Because the sexual behavior of women is none of the churches business. And it is none of yours either.
 
Mashmont said:
The irreligious ay guys can be very cunning. There is no denying that. But those infiltrators were very few, thank God.
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1. what the hell are "ay guys" and why are they cunning?

2. if you meant gay guys, well then I am a bit curious as to why gay men would go around raping women, they are kinda well known for that.

3. also, none of what you wrote had anything to do with abortions after rapes.
 
Peter King said:
1. what the hell are "ay guys" and why are they cunning?

2. if you meant gay guys, well then I am a bit curious as to why gay men would go around raping women, they are kinda well known for that.

3. also, none of what you wrote had anything to do with abortions after rapes.
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If you had bothered to trace that reference, it had to do with pedophilia
 
Mashmont said:
Surely you don't think higher incidence of broken relationships, fatherless children,and poor single mothers is a positive benefit of sex outside marriage that is outweighed by a desire for immediate gratification, do you?
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Surely you don't think your personal feelings matter or that your clinging to statistics actually demonstrates sex outside of marriage is different than doing it in marriage?

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Mashmont said:
If you paid attention, I said Roe will be overturned and made illegal in all states just as slavery was. It will not be left up to the states.
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Unless you believe you could get over 2/3rds of Congress and the states to pass an Amendment, it would be up to the states and constantly under attack every time the SCOTUS changed makeup. It isnt likely going to happen.

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