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More Abortions Are Good For Society

What do you call the slaughter of 60,000,000 unborn children?

What do I call the "slaughter of 60,000,000 unborn children"; meaningless hyperventilation of nosey, old, misogynistic, conservative Christian males who somehow believe it is their privilege to deny women the right to make private personal decisions about reproduction and how many children she can adequately manage without hardship for the rest of the family.

What do you call 60,000,000 embryo's that didn't suffer loveless lives of instability, poverty and a bleak future?
 
Claiming more abortions being good for society is like claiming more prisoners is good for society. Both rid "unwanted elements", but such increases only prove that the wrongs of society are increasing.

Abortion is a solution to a problem when it has already occured. The goal should be to ensure that problem does not occur to begin with.

No one desires an abortion. However, many people desire sexual pleasure. Becoming unwillingly pregnant is a failure to satisfy this desire and thus more abortions actually means more unhappiness.

Abortion should be legal and anyone with just a tiny pinch of economic knowledge knows why. Abortion is not beaten with regulations and legislation, it is beaten with individual responsibility.

I really do not understand why people are so bothered by what other people are doing with their own lives. Privatise the abortion clinics and Pro Lifers can shut up. :)
 
I call it none of your business... and they are not children. They are embryo's and fetus's.

Who or what gave you the authority to make a statement like this? Was it something you gleaned from the liberal media? ... or just a product of your own delusional influences?
 
Who or what gave you the authority to make a statement like this? Was it something you gleaned from the liberal media? ... or just a product of your own delusional influences?

And when did the "Very Conservative" start yelling for Mama State to come and shut down individual liberties?
 
And when did the "Very Conservative" start yelling for Mama State to come and shut down individual liberties?

Never. They never did that and never will. You want to see "shut down" individual liberties? Perhaps you should go live in China for a few months --- that might reset your false expectation.
 
Never. They never did that and never will. You want to see "shut down" individual liberties? Perhaps you should go live in China for a few months --- that might reset your false expectation.
What sort of strawman is it you are trying to build here? And how does this even relate to the topic in question?

As far as abortion goes, the so called "Conservative" camp of Pro Lifers are insanely Statist and altruistic.
 
What sort of strawman is it you are trying to build here? And how does this even relate to the topic in question?

As far as abortion goes, the so called "Conservative" camp of Pro Lifers are insanely Statist and altruistic.

Golly, is it opposite day or something? Statist: relating to or characteristic of a political system in which the state has substantial centralized control over social and economic affairs.

Does that sound like a constitutional representative republic or a socialist philosophy?

It's a direct response to your post, and it's very relevant. You brought up individual liberties so if it is off topic it's the discussion that you started.... so yeah, direct that question back at yourself.

So China is a no go? That's what I thought. Go back to your free, open capitalistic society built from the ground up by conservatives. What does this mean? Christians created the most free and open society in the history of the world. And you are calling them "statists"?! This is liberal paradox #022.

And keep this in the back of your mind:
Abortion is genocide, no matter how you cut the cake. The blood is on you hands.

 
Golly, is it opposite day or something? Statist: relating to or characteristic of a political system in which the state has substantial centralized control over social and economic affairs.

Does that sound like a constitutional representative republic or a socialist philosophy?
Exactly. You, my friend, are a Statist.

It's a direct response to your post, and it's very relevant. You brought up individual liberties so if it is off topic it's the discussion that you started.... so yeah, direct that question back at yourself.
What? :lamo

So China is a no go? That's what I thought. Go back to your free, open capitalistic society built from the ground up by conservatives. What does this mean? Christians created the most free and open society in the history of the world. And you are calling them "statists"?! This is liberal paradox #022.
Bro, who are you even talking to? :lamo

And keep this in the back of your mind:
Abortion is genocide, no matter how you cut the cake. The blood is on you hands.

Cute graph. I am uninterested in statistics and think the main reason people of today are so dumb is because they have an unhealthy obsession with statistics and trust statistics more than they trust reality itself.
 
Who or what gave you the authority to make a statement like this? Was it something you gleaned from the liberal media? ... or just a product of your own delusional influences?

Sure... you stop women from right to privacy and we come and take you guns, your freedom of religion, etc.
 
Never. They never did that and never will.

Then you are pro-choice! Welcome to the enlightened, fair and kind side of the debate... congratulations!
 
Who or what gave you the authority to make a statement like this? Was it something you gleaned from the liberal media? ... or just a product of your own delusional influences?

Legally, they are not children. Biologically and medically, they are not children.

Legally, biologically, and medically...they are embryos and fetuses. Have you ever opened a child's health text book? A biology book? How about those 'authorities?'And the Constitution, in the 14A also says it...it says 'born.'

Sooooo, who's the delusional one here? Certainly not the ones that have read all this from 'the authorities.'

Who is 'your authority?' (I can guess)
 
Never. They(conservatives) never did that (ask the government of take liberties away) and never will. You want to see "shut down" individual liberties? Perhaps you should go live in China for a few months --- that might reset your false expectation.

Conservatives are constantly asking the government to take away someone's liberty. Tell you what; I'll petition the government to prohibit you from listening to Fox News and you can petition the government to prohibit women from making personal decisions about child bearing. Or let's get the government to deny you the right to attend the church of your choice in exchange for denying women legal abortions. How about we we pass a law denying you the right to read and write whatever you want or whatever guns you can buy or what schools you can send you kids to or dictate the kind of vehicle you"re allowed to drive, political party you belong to, women you can marry, jobs you can work at. Have you ever considered people's private lives are none of your business?

The people most anxious to have the government take away liberties and control other people's lives are the "very conservative" and the very Christian. I can post a list of those liberties if you would like.
 
Exactly. You, my friend, are a Statist.
What? :lamo
Bro, who are you even talking to? :lamo
Cute graph. I am uninterested in statistics and think the main reason people of today are so dumb is because they have an unhealthy obsession with statistics and trust statistics more than they trust reality itself.

I like how you didn't answer my question. LOL lots of fluff in that post. Typical! :lamo
Can you explain why you think I'm a statist?

Unhealthy obsession? I think dealing with the facts is a healthy obsession. Obviously, when you deal in facts, liberals don't like it one bit. Hence, your response is no surprise. So it sounds like, based on your reply, you would prefer to remain ignorant to the facts of abortion? LOL why am I not surprised? :lamo

Sure... you stop women from right to privacy and we come and take you guns, your freedom of religion, etc.

You do realize that pregnancy is a natural reproductive process that has occurred for thousands of years, right? As in women have estrogen for a reason? Women have ovaries for a reason? Let me provide the context that is clearly "lacking" from your entire understanding of the issue, if women didn't get pregnant, the death of the human race would follow quickly, right? Why are you raising cain over a natural life giving biological process?

Do you really think it's better to kill unborn children? Oh wait... you are doing them a favor, right? And it's compassion, not death that's the real motive for abortion, right?

EDIT: So you condemn the natural biological process of life, yet you rave about the un natural process of abortion?

Do I have all my ducks in a row now? Please, if one is out of place, tell me.
 
I like how you didn't answer my question. LOL lots of fluff in that post. Typical! :lamo
Can you explain why you think I'm a statist?
Sure, you want the the State to step in and regulate the market service of abortion simply because you personally do not like abortions. You rely on the State to step in and wipe out the elements of society you personally dislike and keep those things you do like legal.

Unhealthy obsession? I think dealing with the facts is a healthy obsession. Obviously, when you deal in facts, liberals don't like it one bit. Hence, your response is no surprise. So it sounds like, based on your reply, you would prefer to remain ignorant to the facts of abortion? LOL why am I not surprised? :lamo
First of all, I am not a Liberal and secondly I do not even like abortion, but since I am not Statist and since I understand economics, I do not want to impose my personal preferences on others and do not like the State to step in and regulate the market. It is very simple.

You do realize that pregnancy is a natural reproductive process that has occurred for thousands of years, right? As in women have estrogen for a reason? Women have ovaries for a reason? Let me provide the context that is clearly "lacking" from your entire understanding of the issue, if women didn't get pregnant, the death of the human race would follow quickly, right? Why are you raising cain over a natural life giving biological process?
If you actually read my posts instead of jerking off to the emblem of your prefered Statist Party, you would see that I very clearly stated that it is up to each and every adult indivudal themselves to take responsibility for their own actions - Want sex, but no pregnancy? Then shag with protection.

Do you really think it's better to kill unborn children? Oh wait... you are doing them a favor, right? And it's compassion, not death that's the real motive for abortion, right?
No, it is death, but speaking of the matter in those terms is irrelevant since it only serves to drift the debate further and further away from a solution. My provided solutions are very clear and based on reality rather than on philosophical abstractions and love for the State.

EDIT: So you condemn the natural biological process of life, yet you rave about the un natural process of abortion?

Do I have all my ducks in a row now? Please, if one is out of place, tell me.
You are Statist and that is the only thing that is clear. As long as individuals are dressed and lights are turned on, you will advocate indivudal autonomy, but when clothes come off and lights go down, you cry for the State to help you. You demand the individual to sacrifice their own desires for "the common good of the collective" which not only makes you a Statist but also an altruist.
 
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I like how you didn't answer my question. LOL lots of fluff in that post. Typical! :lamo
Can you explain why you think I'm a statist?

And you havent answered any of mine...so that seems a bit hypocritical of you.

Why not?
 
This is such a ridiculous post that it is kinda astounding that anybody would post it... I assume that you are young?

You do realize that pregnancy is a natural reproductive process that has occurred for thousands of years, right?

:roll:

As in women have estrogen for a reason?

:roll:

Women have ovaries for a reason?

:roll:

Let me provide the context that is clearly "lacking" from your entire understanding of the issue, if women didn't get pregnant, the death of the human race would follow quickly, right?

Wrong...

Why are you raising cain over a natural life giving biological process?

I am not...

Do you really think it's better to kill unborn children?

Sometimes... yes.

unborn children

They are not children.. they are embryos and fetus's

Oh wait... you are doing them a favor, right?

:roll:

And it's compassion, not death that's the real motive for abortion, right?

:roll:

EDIT: So you condemn the natural biological process of life, yet you rave about the un natural process of abortion?

Abortion is a natural process... the female body does it in the form of miscarriages something like 30% of the time, if I remember correctly.

Do I have all my ducks in a row now? Please, if one is out of place, tell me.

All of them are out of place...

If a woman has an abortion or not it is none of your business. ... leave women alone. ... it is not his call if she keeps it our not.
 
First of all, I am not a Liberal and secondly I do not even like abortion, but since I am not Statist and since I understand economics, I do not want to impose my personal preferences on others and do not like the State to step in and regulate the market. It is very simple.

I still group you in with the liberals because you share the same delusional persuasions.
 
This is such a ridiculous post that it is kinda astounding that anybody would post it... I assume that you are young?
If a woman has an abortion or not it is none of your business. ... leave women alone. ... it is not his call if she keeps it our not.

Double standard much? LOL

Ridiculous? I think that word is reserved for people who prefer to kill (or defend the act) unborn, defenseless children. Yes, it must be "ridiculous" to save a life.
About how long has it been since you actually ingested truth? Because from here, it looks like you have some very serious delusions going on.

Next time try to bring actual context and facts to your post. Your one word answers and excessive use of emojis betray your confidence.

Since I'm a 12 year old I can relate to your excessive use of emojis and near-total lack of understanding. I think I've seen you around. You ride the short bus, right?

 
I still group you in with the liberals because you share the same delusional persuasions.
That is rather cute since you are the one who - just like them - asks the government to step in and limit and the things in society that you personally do not like. A true conservative knows that a large problems that exist in society are spiritual rather than political and thus believe they should be handled on the local level and that they are to be solved organically rather than politically.

You are Statist who wants the State to limit abortions. Abortions will never stop with the pen of the government. Abortion can only vanish from existence if culture change in a direction that allows it. This means you should be the change you want to see and stop caring too much about what other people are doing.

Abortion is not a problem.
 
Double standard much? LOL

Yes, it must be "ridiculous" to save a life.
About how long has it been since you actually ingested truth? Because from here, it looks like you have some very serious delusions going on.

Next time try to bring actual context and facts to your post. Your one word answers and excessive use of emojis betray your confidence.

Since I'm a 12 year old I can relate to your excessive use of emojis and near-total lack of understanding. I think I've seen you around.


12 years old or not your posts are excessively juvenile...

You ride the short bus, right?

Why would i be riding the short bus?

Ridiculous? I think that word is reserved for people who prefer to kill (or defend the act) unborn, defenseless children.

They are not children... they are embryo's and fetus's... if you are going to keep posting lies then you will never get any respect.

Abortion is genocide, no matter how you cut the cake. The blood is on you hands.

When you get older you will come to realize that the dictionary can be your friend... use it so you post less stupid things.
 
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