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[W: 1014] Let us say Roe v Wade is overturned. What do you think will happen next.

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I would be particularly interested what prolifers think. But prochoice folks are more than welcome to reply.

Do you think abortions will drastically drop?

Do you think women will find alternate pathways for abortion? If so, a little or a lot?

Do you think that there will be a large uptick in the birth of babies? Given that most women who choose abortion are under resourced and under employed...how do you see this affecting social services....and your taxes?

Seeing that those most at risk will still not be able to afford the most effective contraception....will the pro-lifers soften their views on long term implantables?

I would be interested in what people predict will happen.
 
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You can have my abortion when you pry it from the cold dead hands of my fetus.
 
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The soccer moms of America would vote the GOP out of existence in the next general election.
 
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ecofarm said:
You can have my abortion when you pry it from the cold dead hands of my fetus.
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you Nazi thug
 
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year2late said:
I would be particularly interested what prolifers think. But prochoice folks are more than welcome to reply.

Do you think abortions will drastically drop?

Do you think women will find alternate pathways for abortion? If so, a little or a lot?

Do you think that there will be a large uptick in the birth of babies? Given that most women who choose abortion are under resourced and under employed...how do you see this affecting social services....and your taxes?

Seeing that those most at risk will still not be able to afford the most effective contraception....will the pro-lifers soften their views on long term implantables?

I would be interested in what people predict will happen.
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Certainly abortions we know about would be expected to drop, if only because people doing illegal things don't generally provide accurate documentation on demand.

Speaking of demand, black market services would begin appearing all over the nation (again) bringing along increased chances of dying in the process through bad equipment or technique, as well as the crime that comes with the need to protect an illegal business and launder it's profits. With the increased ease of information exchange, just about any jerk could be an amateur abortionist.

The Freakonomics team have statistically proven there is a correlation between legal abortion and a reduction in overall crime, so probably within a few years, crime rates would begin increasing (again.)

There's no good way to track it, but I'd guess that there would also be an increase of women who fake an accident in an effort to lose the pregnancy on purpose by hurting themselves.
 
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If Trump replaces RBG, I don't think even a full conservative supreme court would go that far in overturning Roe V. Wade, now they might limit the law, but I don't see them totally repealing it. I think a woman has a right to choose, but aborting a baby that is still born is wrong. I don't support that. On the abortion issue, I'm sort of mixed on from my conservative counterparts.
 
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A little something many do not know about "Roe" aka Norma McCorvey.

Norma McCorvey maintained a low profile following the court’s decision, but in the 1980s she was active in the abortion rights movement.

However, in the mid-1990s, after becoming friends with the head of an anti-abortion group and converting to Catholicism, she turned into a vocal opponent of the procedure.
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jamesbyoung said:
The soccer moms of America would vote the GOP out of existence in the next general election.
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So would men without vasectomies.

DNA testing and child support aint goin' anywhere no matter what abortion laws change.
 
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bradt99 said:
If Trump replaces RBG, I don't think even a full conservative supreme court would go that far in overturning Roe V. Wade, now they might limit the law, but I don't see them totally repealing it. I think a woman has a right to choose, but aborting a baby that is still born is wrong. I don't support that. On the abortion issue, I'm sort of mixed on from my conservative counterparts.
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Overturning RvW doesnt make abortion illegal. It would keep it legal and states would have to create their own laws.

Some would, some wouldnt.
 
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bradt99 said:
If Trump replaces RBG, I don't think even a full conservative Supreme Court would go that far in overturning Roe V. Wade, now they might limit the law, but I don't see them totally repealing it. I think a woman has a right to choose, but aborting a baby that is still born is wrong. I don't support that. On the abortion issue, I'm sort of mixed on from my conservative counterparts.
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Trump will not replace her. The Senate will turn blue next year. As long as RGB is still living, he will not waste time looking for a conservative judge to nominate.
 
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Sabre said:
A little something many do not know about "Roe" aka Norma McCorvey.
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Has zero bearing on the Constitutionality of RvW.
 
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Lursa said:
Overturning RvW doesnt make abortion illegal. It would keep it legal and states would have to create their own laws.

Some would, some wouldnt.
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Which is why Democrats are trying furiously to codify it at the Federal level and take it away from the States who should be deciding.
 
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year2late said:
I would be particularly interested what prolifers think. But prochoice folks are more than welcome to reply.

Do you think abortions will drastically drop?

Do you think women will find alternate pathways for abortion? If so, a little or a lot?

Do you think that there will be a large uptick in the birth of babies? Given that most women who choose abortion are under resourced and under employed...how do you see this affecting social services....and your taxes?

Seeing that those most at risk will still not be able to afford the most effective contraception....will the pro-lifers soften their views on long term implantables?

I would be interested in what people predict will happen.
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Lots more child support?

Lots of women driving across state lines to get abortions...just like some do now.

Lots more late term abortions, since early ones will not be as readily available, and women will have to wait longer to make travel arrangements, save more $$ for travel/overnight stay, take time off work, etc etc. So pro-lifers would actually be making the situation worse :roll:
 
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Acadia said:
Which is why Democrats are trying furiously to codify it at the Federal level and take it away from the States who should be deciding.
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It's not being overturned
 
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year2late said:
I would be particularly interested what prolifers think. But prochoice folks are more than welcome to reply.

Do you think abortions will drastically drop?

Do you think women will find alternate pathways for abortion? If so, a little or a lot?

Do you think that there will be a large uptick in the birth of babies? Given that most women who choose abortion are under resourced and under employed...how do you see this affecting social services....and your taxes?

Seeing that those most at risk will still not be able to afford the most effective contraception....will the pro-lifers soften their views on long term implantables?

I would be interested in what people predict will happen.
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The dems will pass a law allowing it that will sit in the Senate until McConnell dies. Some states will outlaw it completely. Others will legalize drive through abortion clinics that accept EBT just out of spite.
 
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Acadia said:
Which is why Democrats are trying furiously to codify it at the Federal level and take it away from the States who should be deciding.
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I dont know what 'codified' means but it is already decided at the federal level. And since it involves women's Constitutional rights, which are protected AT the federal level and those protections supersede ANYTHING the states want to do...the states will still be limited in some ways. (Has nothing to do with abortion, applies to everything)

For instance...they cannot make having an abortion a criminal act. The state cannot force a woman to remain pregnant. Violates the 4th, 13th, and 15th Amendments. For ex: To stop a woman from having one, from even learning her reproductive status....violates several Const rights...and if women travel out of state...are they checking reproductive status when they leave? When they return? Women dont need Drs to confirm pregnancies anymore, over the counter tests are very accurate. They dont need to tell anyone before their trip out of state.

The most the states can do, I believe, is to further restrict access and criminalize Drs performing the procedure.
 
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Drawdown said:
The dems will pass a law allowing it that will sit in the Senate until McConnell dies. Some states will outlaw it completely. Others will legalize drive through abortion clinics that accept EBT just out of spite.
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IMO there would be "Underground railroads" for that purpose. Currently, the $$$$ of private funds going to PP is huge, because PP is not allowed to use federal funds for abortion services.
 
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Lursa said:
IMO there will be "Underground railroads" for that purpose. Currently, the $$$$ of private funds going to PP is huge, because PP is not allowed to use federal funds for abortion services.
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Maybe. But big pharma will probably just create a month after pill.
 
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Blue Donkey said:
Trump will not replace her. The Senate will turn blue next year. As long as RGB is still living, he will not waste time looking for a conservative judge to nominate.
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I'm sorry for you, but there is not enough blue senate seats up next year.
 
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Drawdown said:
Maybe. But big pharma will probably just create a month after pill.
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Oh yes! Forgot about that. Current abortifacients will be more available, even if black market.

And I'm guessing even more men will be sneaking them into their pregnant girlfriend's tea and other beverages.
 
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bradt99 said:
I'm sorry for you, but there is not enough blue Senate seats up next year.
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Some Republicans are retiring. Others are running for re-elecion in blue states. Mitch McConnell's state just elected a Democratic governor and he was rated the worst U.S. Senator in 2019. Democrats only need three or four seats to flip.
 
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WillyPete said:
Certainly abortions we know about would be expected to drop, if only because people doing illegal things don't generally provide accurate documentation on demand.

Speaking of demand, black market services would begin appearing all over the nation (again) bringing along increased chances of dying in the process through bad equipment or technique, as well as the crime that comes with the need to protect an illegal business and launder it's profits. With the increased ease of information exchange, just about any jerk could be an amateur abortionist.

The Freakonomics team have statistically proven there is a correlation between legal abortion and a reduction in overall crime, so probably within a few years, crime rates would begin increasing (again.)

There's no good way to track it, but I'd guess that there would also be an increase of women who fake an accident in an effort to lose the pregnancy on purpose by hurting themselves.
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I think there will be a reliable black market for abortion pills. There will be women who have serious health issues related to unsupervised use, but I think desperate women will choose this option. A lot.

I also think that since drug dealers will have a new drug to deal....there will be disgruntled boyfriends dosing their girlfriends. No doubt.
 
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Sabre said:
A little something many do not know about "Roe" aka Norma McCorvey.
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What does that have to do with anything?
 
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year2late said:
I think there will be a reliable black market for abortion pills. There will be women who have serious health issues related to unsupervised use, but I think desperate women will choose this option. A lot.

I also think that since drug dealers will have a new drug to deal....there will be disgruntled boyfriends dosing their girlfriends. No doubt.
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I'd forgotten about those. Thank you!

Yes, that'd also feed the black market, in both legit and ineffective counterfeit versions. It's not like the pregnant mother could call the police for burning her on abortion pills.
 
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bradt99 said:
If Trump replaces RBG, I don't think even a full conservative supreme court would go that far in overturning Roe V. Wade, now they might limit the law, but I don't see them totally repealing it. I think a woman has a right to choose, but aborting a baby that is still born is wrong. I don't support that. On the abortion issue, I'm sort of mixed on from my conservative counterparts.
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What do you mean by "aborting a baby that is still born"?
 
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