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The “KILL IT”� Party strikes again

It certainly helps you becaues earlier you said babies are slaughtered alive, not dead.
I said it because its true. That is literally what you advocate for. But you feel more comfortable with 'softer' terms to describe the slaughter of the unborn.

As long as it makes what you champion palatable..good for you.

Again...this isnt about your cheerful support of the slaughter of things that dn matter to you...its about Warrens political theater and hypocrisy. Not sure why you all are bent on making this be just another thread on abortion.
 
I said it because its true. That is literally what you advocate for. But you feel more comfortable with 'softer' terms to describe the slaughter of the unborn.

As long as it makes what you champion palatable..good for you.

Again...this isnt about your cheerful support of the slaughter of things that dn matter to you...its about Warrens political theater and hypocrisy. Not sure why you all are bent on making this be just another thread on abortion.

You personally support the slaughter of the unborn
 
It certainly helps you becaues earlier you said babies are slaughtered alive, not dead.

I saw that there was no counter argument to the facts and arguments you posted. Just picking at terminology. Obviously only he can use emotionally manipulative terms :doh

When other's articulate principles and arguments, some only manage to post bumper stickers.
 
Your challenge to people opposing the bill made it sound like you were defending it. You said it was "recognising and reinforcing" existing laws after all. My argument is the this is worse than unnecessary, but an underhanded tool to try to scare medical professionals from performing abortions at all.

Also, your "explanation" contained errors which were relevant to the nature and intentions of the bill.

A disturbing part of the bill states (2) The chapter heading for chapter 74 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by striking “PARTIAL-BIRTH ABORTIONS” and inserting “ABORTIONS”.

Chapter 74 of title 18 reads:

a) Any physician who, in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, knowingly performs a partial-birth abortion and thereby kills a human fetus shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both. This subsection does not apply to a partial-birth abortion that is necessary to save the life of a mother whose life is endangered by a physical disorder, physical illness, or physical injury, including a life-endangering physical condition caused by or arising from the pregnancy itself. This subsection takes effect 1 day after the enactment.
(b) As used in this section—
(1) the term “partial-birth abortion” means an abortion in which the person performing the abortion—
(A) deliberately and intentionally vaginally delivers a living fetus until, in the case of a head-first presentation, the entire fetal head is outside the body of the mother, or, in the case of breech presentation, any part of the fetal trunk past the navel is outside the body of the mother, for the purpose of performing an overt act that the person knows will kill the partially delivered living fetus; and
(B) performs the overt act, other than completion of delivery, that kills the partially delivered living fetus;


There is no section permitting abortion in the case of rape, incest, risk of mother or fetal death or birth defects that preclude life for the fetus.

It's important to also note that the term "overt act" is nowhere defined either in the proposed bill or Chapter 74 title 18 so that when the law says, "other than the act of delivery" any act, such as not taking the dying child immediately to the hospital or giving it to the parents to hold and comfort until it dies or leaving the child to die naturally will be classed as an "overt act" and punished.

The Democrats were responsible in preventing this bill from becoming law.
 
Vance, it is 100% FALSE that fetuses are slaughtered alive. Do you know what euthanasia is?

No pro-choicer advocates for celebrating slaughterrs of human babies. They advocate for better mandatory sex education; free and cheap contraception including Plan B; tougher penalties on rapists, including forcing them to pay for all child care if their babies are not aborted; free health care, especially gynecology and obstetrics, for pregnant women and girls with no insurance (or expanded Medicaid benefits); and free counseling to reduce the number of women and girls who get abortions.

Can you name any pro-lifers who would do all of this instead of lock up women and doctors for doing it after the fact?
 
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It certainly helps you becaues earlier you said babies are slaughtered alive, not dead.

You listen tuh guv’nah Nothum son?

Heez dun said as muhtch. He dun said y’all put that them thar ch’il on a taybl’n then ya flip a koin.

I thank he’d done fergotten tuh aks if the Ch’il be put undah the frunt or reer tyre if the momma dun flipt rong.

Whooz duz the clean’in up of the rhode... I darn Kaint tell ya son.
“If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen,” he said. “The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”

Guv’nah “blackface” Nothum

The New Democrat Motto:

JUST KILL IT
 
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Zimmer, your signature alone forces me to put you on my ignore list. There is absolutelly no reason to use that phrase where everyone can see it in every post. Goodbye.
 
You listen tuh guv’nah Nothum son?

Heez dun said as muhtch. He dun said y’all put that them thar ch’il on a taybl’n then ya flip a koin.

I thank he’d done fergotten tuh aks if the Ch’il be put undah the frunt or reer tyre if the momma dun flipt rong.

Whooz duz the clean’in up of the rhode... I darn Kaint tell ya son.

The New Democrat Motto:

JUST KILL IT

You've been told several times that Governor Northum was addressing a situation in which a severely malformed baby was dying shortly after birth and how a doctor and the parents would handle the situation, so you are aware that drivel like this is a lie. Only someone as cynical and misanthropic as yourself would find this funny. Mostly you simply look ignorant and stupid.
 
You've been told several times that Governor Northum was addressing a situation in which a severely malformed baby was dying shortly after birth and how a doctor and the parents would handle the situation, so you are aware that drivel like this is a lie. Only someone as cynical and misanthropic as yourself would find this funny. Mostly you simply look ignorant and stupid.

So what if the child is deformed?

Other places they did the same thing... with healthy babies. Let them die.

This is sick...

First abortions were to be rare.

Now it’s a choice after the baby has been born alive.

The Mengele Partei... Sick ****s.
 
Zimmer, your signature alone forces me to put you on my ignore list. There is absolutelly no reason to use that phrase where everyone can see it in every post. Goodbye.

See ya ✌

What’s wrong? Your party supports it. A Democrat Presidential candidate stated it. A Democrat Governor supports it even after the child is born and living as did Obama.

It is a vile party... I agree.

When Obama Voted For Infanticide | National Review

Obama’s abortion extremism is such that, as a state legislator, he opposed protection for — I’ll use his words here — “that fetus, or child — however way you want to say describe it” when, contrary to the wishes of the women involved and their abortionists, there was “movement or some indication that, in fact, they’re not just coming out limp and dead.” Babies were inconveniently being born alive, self-styled health-care providers carted them off to utility rooms where they would be left to die. That is infanticide, plain and simple. In Illinois, people tried to stop this barbarism by supporting “born alive” legislation. Barack Obama fought them all the way.
 
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Vance, it is 100% FALSE that fetuses are slaughtered alive. Do you know what euthanasia is?

No pro-choicer advocates for celebrating slaughterrs of human babies. They advocate for better mandatory sex education; free and cheap contraception including Plan B; tougher penalties on rapists, including forcing them to pay for all child care if their babies are not aborted; free health care, especially gynecology and obstetrics, for pregnant women and girls with no insurance (or expanded Medicaid benefits); and free counseling to reduce the number of women and girls who get abortions.

Can you name any pro-lifers who would do all of this instead of lock up women and doctors for doing it after the fact?
There are no 'pro choicers'...only pro abortionists. And they literally dont give the first **** about the mother...or the unborn child. They care about themselves and the political cause of abortion. And in fairness I say the exact same thing about the 'pro life' side. Its all a repugnant political dance and both sides sink billions into it keeping each other nipping at each other.

But my comments on this thread are not about arguing for or against abortion rights. My comments merely pointed out the hypocrisy of Liz Warren and her stage-crafted politics.
 
See ya

What’s wrong? Your party supports it. A Democrat Presidential candidate stated it. A Democrat Governor supports it even after the child is born and living as did Obama.

It is a vile party... I agree.

When Obama Voted For Infanticide | National Review

What's wrong with your signature:

1. It is not the Democrat mooto. Elizabeth Warren was quoting Mike Bloomberg, a former Republican who donated campaign money to Lindsay Graham. Democrats do not say, "Just kill it."
2. The phrase "Just kill it" is in huge capital letters, so nobody can ignore it. If you heard Warren, you know it is a very offensive statement to anyone who wanted a baby and got pregnant.

There is no such thing as post-birth abortion by the way. Abortion is preventing birth.
 
What's wrong with your signature:

1. It is not the Democrat mooto. Elizabeth Warren was quoting Mike Bloomberg, a former Republican who donated campaign money to Lindsay Graham. Democrats do not say, "Just kill it."
2. The phrase "Just kill it" is in huge capital letters, so nobody can ignore it. If you heard Warren, you know it is a very offensive statement to anyone who wanted a baby and got pregnant.

There is no such thing as post-birth abortion by the way. Abortion is preventing birth.

Nobody can ignore it? Good.

And it is your party motto now... here at least... because it is what your party is about. Just look at their record.

These are aborted children who live... and are left to die. That is Infanticide. Guv’nah Blackface Nothum... and President Obama supported this... as does the Democrat Party as indicated by their Senate vote.

And as the post below indicates... some in your party celebrate it!!!

Yeah its great
 
There are no 'pro choicers'...only pro abortionists. And they literally dont give the first **** about the mother...or the unborn child. They care about themselves and the political cause of abortion. And in fairness I say the exact same thing about the 'pro life' side. Its all a repugnant political dance and both sides sink billions into it keeping each other nipping at each other.

But my comments on this thread are not about arguing for or against abortion rights. My comments merely pointed out the hypocrisy of Liz Warren and her stage-crafted politics.

Republicans don't care about the moms. They only care about politicizing a very important health care issue. Pro-choicers are people who totally understand pregnancy is a very personal human rights issue protected in the U.S. Constitution and that every woman has bodily autonomy. They are people who care about the mom's right to privacy. They care about the mom's health. They care about how pregnancy affects her. Republicans do not care about any of these things. All they care about the existence of unwanted babies.

There was no hypocisy at all in what Elizabeth Warren said. Her rant was a true story about a woman being told to abort a baby she wanted.
 
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There are no 'pro choicers'...only pro abortionists. And they literally dont give the first **** about the mother...or the unborn child. They care about themselves and the political cause of abortion. And in fairness I say the exact same thing about the 'pro life' side. Its all a repugnant political dance and both sides sink billions into it keeping each other nipping at each other.

But my comments on this thread are not about arguing for or against abortion rights. My comments merely pointed out the hypocrisy of Liz Warren and her stage-crafted politics.

Then you are a pro abortionist
 
Republicans don't care about the moms. They only care about politicizing a very important health care issue. Pro-choicers are people who totally understand pregnancy is a very personal human rights issue protected in the U.S. Constitution and that every woman has bodily autonomy. They are people who care about the mom's right to privacy. They care about the mom's health. They care about how pregnancy affects her. Republicans do not care about any of these things. All they care about the existence of unwanted babies.
I agree...republicans dont...any more than democrats do. I just said that. Its all a bull**** political argument. I dont fight for a ban...I dont believe in a ban. Abortion is legal. It will always be legal...regardless of whether people see the slaughter of the unborn as a tragedy or something to cheer about.

But again...I'm not arguing abortion. My comments merely pointed out the hypocrisy of Liz Warren and her stage-crafted politics.
 
Nobody can ignore it? Good.

And it is your party motto now... here at least... because it is what your party is about. Just look at their record.

These are aborted children who live... and are left to die. That is Infanticide. Guv’nah Blackface Nothum... and President Obama supported this... as does the Democrat Party as indicated by their Senate vote.

And as the post below indicates... some in your party celebrate it!!!

I have already explained many times why it is NOT the party motto. Do I have to repeat myself?
 
Republicans don't care about the moms. They only care about politicizing a very important health care issue. Pro-choicers are people who totally understand pregnancy is a very personal human rights issue protected in the U.S. Constitution and that every woman has bodily autonomy. They are people who care about the mom's right to privacy. They care about the mom's health. They care about how pregnancy affects her. Republicans do not care about any of these things. All they care about the existence of unwanted babies.

There is ample inexpensive contraception...

Women cannot do whatever they like with their bodies, just as men cannot.

Killing the unborn and born is not in The Constitution... that’s absurd.

In fact, until Roe v Wade... it was criminal in all the states for 200-years.

Find me the passage in The Constitution that says women have a Constitutional Right to abortion. It’s not there.

In the Declaration of Independence it spoke about the right to “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness...”
 
There is ample inexpensive contraception...

Women cannot do whatever they like with their bodies, just as men cannot.

Killing the unborn and born is not in The Constitution... that’s absurd.

In fact, until Roe v Wade... it was criminal in all the states for 200-years.

Find me the passage in The Constitution that says women have a Constitutional Right to abortion. It’s not there.

In the Declaration of Independence it spoke about the right to “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness...”

It's legal now.


Keep crying.....


But it will be legal tomorrow too. Lol
 
I have already explained many times why it is NOT the party motto. Do I have to repeat myself?

It is your party’s motto now... based on the Democrat Party’s positions on matters regarding the life of the unborn and born.

I have made it so, and so it is.*

And as we have seen... we’ve already had a Democrat in this thread celebrating it.

* I do not think Bloomberg, nor Nike has copyrighted it yet.
 
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There are no 'pro choicers'...only pro abortionists. And they literally dont give the first **** about the mother...or the unborn child. They care about themselves and the political cause of abortion. And in fairness I say the exact same thing about the 'pro life' side. Its all a repugnant political dance and both sides sink billions into it keeping each other nipping at each other.

But my comments on this thread are not about arguing for or against abortion rights. My comments merely pointed out the hypocrisy of Liz Warren and her stage-crafted politics.

I'm a pro-choicer and please do not call me a pro-abortionist, because I am NOT. I've been a Catholic my entire life, Catholic education, taught Bible study, etc. So do not force a label on everyone because of an LEGAL issue in a DEMOCRACY that was settled law years ago.

Pro-choice is the LAW in this country. Last I heard, we are a country of LAWS. Get off your superior high-horse and understand that there are 327 million people in this country and NO, we do not have to follow your religious edicts. We have to follow the laws of this land and the law tells us that women have a choice as to what to do with their own bodies.
 
It is your party’s motto now... based on the Democrat Party’s positions on matters regarding the life of the unborn and born.

I have made it so, and so it is.*

And as we have seen... we’ve already had a Democrat celebrating it.

* I do not think Bloomberg, nor Nike has copyrighted it yet.

Trump shall be known as the flatulent obese orange baby killer.



I have spoken!!!
 
I'm a pro-choicer and please do not call me a pro-abortionist, because I am NOT. I've been a Catholic my entire life, Catholic education, taught Bible study, etc. So do not force a label on everyone because of an LEGAL issue in a DEMOCRACY that was settled law years ago.

Pro-choice is the LAW in this country. Last I heard, we are a country of LAWS. Get off your superior high-horse and understand that there are 327 million people in this country and NO, we do not have to follow your religious edicts. We have to follow the laws of this land and the law tells us that women have a choice as to what to do with their own bodies.

It might be law***... but there are free speech laws too.

You may like to deny reality, but the reality is... you’re a pro-abortion Catholic.
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***The problem with abortion in America is it was done via judicial fiat. There is no right to an abortion in the US Constitution. So where did come from? As JFK’s SCOTUS nominee wrote... from “raw judicial power”. They made it up. That’s not how things work in America.

So what are the rules for creating law?

Convince your citizens, have Congress write said laws, pass said laws and get the President to sign said laws into law.

Because it is judicial fiat, that law can just as easily be undone by the court. Maybe one day it will be. The next election may have 2 or 3 new SCOTUS justices. Then the states can write their own laws.
 
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There is ample inexpensive contraception.

When girls and women are raped, they can't be prepared for it. She needs to have consensual sex to know to use it.

Women cannot do whatever they like with their bodies, just as men cannot.

Women have the right to do what will make them healthier. You are thinking about smoking, drinking, etc. - activities that intentionally harm the user and society. Abortion is the opposite.

Killing the unborn and born is not in The Constitution... that’s absurd.

In fact, until Roe v Wade... it was criminal in all the states for 200-years.

Find me the passage in The Constitution that says women have a Constitutional Right to abortion. It’s not there.

The ruling in favor of Jane Roe was based on the U.S. Constitution, nothing else.

This right of privacy, whether it be founded in the Fourteenth Amendment's concept of personal liberty and restrictions upon state action, as we feel it is, or ... in the Ninth Amendment's reservation of rights to the people, is broad enough to encompass a woman's decision whether or not to terminate her pregnancy.

Ninth Amendment
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Fourteenth Amendment
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Roe v. Wade - Wikipedia

In the Declaration of Independence it spoke about the right to “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness...”

See what come after life. What is liberty? What is the pursuit of happiness? Any adult capable of critical thought can figure out those two affect the mom's life, not the fetus with no capability of doing more than kick her.

One more thing: The DOI is for all people, not all human beings that have been conceived. So the life of the fetus does not even count.
 
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