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The “KILL IT”� Party strikes again

VanceMack said:
I'm saying she should dispense with the pretense poutrage. Its all political theater and considering her support of the slaughterhouses of millions of unborn babies, completely hypocritical. And her lie about her getting fired for being pregnant was already exposed previously.
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It was not a lie. You have no reason to assume it is. What she said was all true.
 
Blue Donkey said:
It was not a lie. You have no reason to assume it is. What she said was all true.
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By her own words she didnt lose her job because she was pregnant. She quit working to have her baby and went back to grad school. She didnt start using the lie til it became a campaign ploy.
 
VanceMack said:
By her own words she didnt lose her job because she was pregnant. She quit working to have her baby and went back to grad school. She didnt start using the lie til it became a campaign ploy.
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I just read another fact checker. It does not deny Mike Bloomberg said, "Kill it." We have no evidence to prove she lied about him telling what he called "a bad joke." Also, a company the size of Bloomberg LLC would offer maternity leave. She could have just used it. Was she already thinking about attending graduate school anyway? Probably not.
 
Blue Donkey said:
I just read another fact checker. It does not deny Mike Bloomberg said, "Kill it." We have no evidence to prove she lied about him telling what he called "a bad joke." Also, a company the size of Bloomberg LLC would offer maternity leave. She could have just used it. Was she already thinking about attending graduate school anyway? Probably not.
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So desperate to defend the indefensible...

I didnt say she lied about his comment. i said she is a hypocrite for her poutrage over his comment considering her support for the slaughter of the unborn in the name of convenience and that she is promoting HER story...which is a lie. She wasnt let go because she was pregnant. That story didnt start surface until just recently on the campaign trail. Her story was "I went back to graduate school and took a couple of courses in education and said, ‘I don’t think this is going to work out for me.’ I was pregnant with my first baby, so I had a baby and stayed home for a couple of years, and I was really casting about, thinking, ‘What am I going to do?’ My husband’s view of it was, ‘Stay home. We have children, we’ll have more children, you’ll love this.’ And I was very restless about it." Recently...on the campaign trail...it became she was let go because she was visibly pregnant by the mean old patriarchy.
 
Supporting abortion (which is not slaughtering people) has nothing to do with the story. There is no hypocisy at all. We are talking about a woman who wanted her baby.
 
zimmer said:
“love the children... and if they survive an abortion... it’s not a life... it’s still a choice.
Either the kids lives, or they’re chopped up and sold as McDemocrat Parts. Flip the coin... how compassionate. How humane.
Odd they complain about Bloomy. The Democrat Partei is the “KILL IT” Party for decades. Mengele would be proud.
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That's a completely dishonest post. You've put in a random quote mark to make it look like the article says the Democrats are for killing children. The article says nothing of the kind. Here are the main points of the article

WASHINGTON (AP) —Senate Democrats on Monday blocked a Republican bill that would have threatened prison for doctors who don’t try saving the life of infants born alive during abortions. The measure ....... offered the GOP a chance to appeal to conservative voters.

Opponents,....... said it is part of a push by abortion opponents to curb access to the procedure and intimidate doctors who perform it, and said late-term abortions generally occur when the infant is considered incapable of surviving after birth.

“It only happens in instances in which we know that the baby will not ultimately survive, and a choice has been pre-made to provide just comfort care” to the baby so the parents can be with it, said Dr. Colleen McNicholas, a fellow with the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists.

Doctors who violate (the bill's requirements) and medical staffers who don’t report violations could face fines and up to five years in prison. .... potentially a death penalty or life in prison.

Republicans, eager to put congressional Democrats from swing states in an uneasy political spot, have been pouncing on the issue since it arose earlier this year in Virginia and New York.
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The real story is that Republicans re-introduced an unprincipled, anti-abortion bill, designed to deceive voters, and hurt grieving parents in order to stir up trouble for Democrats.

So Zimmer, tell us, what kind of depraved moron approves of a bill that denies parents the chance to hold and comfort a dying baby and punishes a doctor for performing a legal procedure that the grieving parents had a legal right to request?
 
Blue Donkey said:
Supporting abortion (which is not slaughtering people) has nothing to do with the story. There is no hypocisy at all. We are talking about a woman who wanted her baby.
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:lamo

As long as its WANTED its a precious baby.
 
zimmer said:
Because they “love the children... and if they survive an abortion... it’s not a life... it’s still a choice.Either the kids lives, or they’re chopped up and sold as McDemocrat Parts. Flip the coin... how compassionate. How humane.Odd they complain about Bloomy. The Democrat Partei is the “KILL IT” Party for decades. Mengele would be proud.
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This kind of unprincipled post is just one more example that the agenda of anti-abortion advocates has nothing to do with saving fetuses, or reducing the number of abortions. It is just a useful piece of propaganda for making sure low IQ Republicans vote for Republicans.
 
And that is what Elizabeth Warren was talking about - Mike Bloomberg telling someone to kill her wanted baby.
 
zimmer said:
Because they “love the children... and if they survive an abortion... it’s not a life... it’s still a choice.

Either the kids lives, or they’re chopped up and sold as McDemocrat Parts. Flip the coin... how compassionate. How humane.

Odd they complain about Bloomy. The Democrat Partei is the “KILL IT” Party for decades.

Mengele would be proud.
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Assuming that there is no debate and that you are 100% right about this, what does it mean for you personally?
 
VanceMack said:
You'll have to watch the video.

Why is this an issue for you? Arent you happy about your support of killing the unborn? Not sure why you and others feel the need to make this an issue.
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If you have to tell others to watch the video, you did not watch it yourself.

Obviously you and Zimmer are the ones who made it an issue. Everyoone who cares about parents and babies knows this is a bad bill.
 
Idontbelonghere said:
Assuming that there is no debate and that you are 100% right about this, what does it mean for you personally?
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Unless Zimmer has a significant reading disability he knows he has posted a dishonest commentary on the article. A person that forces him/herself to embrace something they know isn't true has more than a simple case of cognitive dissonance. They have a serious personal problem, in which case that person would be unable to honestly identify a personal meaning.
 
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VanceMack said:
Of course you do. What I find fascinating is your need to pretend you dont. But I really have no desire to have this discussion again...its boring. This wasnt about your celebration of abortion...it is about Liz Warrens hypocrisy.
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I don't know who she is, but stop lying about me. Shall I say you are ecstatic about women dying from pregnancy complications?
 
VanceMack said:
I don't know why you keep making it then. You DO cheerfully support the slaughter of 800,000+ unborn babies a year. It's not even a question.
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It is not even a question that if you do not post a link to a website that proves beyond doubt all of your information is 100% accuraste, everything you posted is an outright lie. If you can't prove it, you're wrong.
 
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VanceMack said:


Whole lot of people really happy about killing babies.

But look...I'm not sure what point you think you are making. This is a 100% rat party cause. You ARE pro slaughter...and you should be proud of that. DOnt know why you are so twisted about that. And again...this isnt about abortion...this is about Lizzies hypocrisy. How are you going to pretend to give a **** that Mikey told a woman to kill a baby in the name of business when she advocates for the slaughter of 800,000+ a year in the name of convenience?
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And you are pro-illegal abortionists and backalley butchers. Why do you hate women so much? One of them was your mother.
 
Blue Donkey said:
If you have to tell others to watch the video, you did not watch it yourself.

Obviously you and Zimmer are the ones who made it an issue. Everyoone who cares about parents and babies knows this is a bad bill.
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My issue is simple...She shouldnt put on her fake poutrage about a comment about abortion that was a 'business decision' when she supports abortion for convenience. That was all just debate theater to attack Bloomberg.
 
iguanaman said:
And you are pro-illegal abortionists and backalley butchers. Why do you hate women so much? One of them was your mother.
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Point to one time I have said abortion should be made illegal.
 
Scrabaholic said:
I don't know who she is, but stop lying about me. Shall I say you are ecstatic about women dying from pregnancy complications?
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:lamo

You non-stop want to dive into the ****-pool and own it. Thats your problem.
 
VanceMack said:
Point to one time I have said abortion should be made illegal.
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LOL Then what are you ranting about then? The abortion rate is at an all time low. Everyone should be happy about that.

The U.S. abortion rate dropped to 13.5 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 in 2017, the lowest rate recorded since abortion was legalized in 1973 and an 8% decline from 2014,
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U.S. Abortion Rate Continues to Decline, Reaching Historic Low in 2017 | Guttmacher Institute
 
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VanceMack said:
My issue is simple...She shouldn't put on her fake poutrage about a comment about abortion that was a 'business decision' when she supports abortion for convenience. That was all just debate theater to attack Bloomberg.
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That obviously has absolutely nothing to do with the Senate bill that never should have even been considered ib a committee.

And guess what? Elizabeth Warren is 100% correct to criticixe Mike Bloomberg for making a "bad joke" that was not a bad joke at all, but totally serious request to the employee to have an abortion.

There is no hypocisy at all when she is talking about someone who wanted her baby to have an abortion. Pro-choicers only talk about unwanted babies.
 
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Blue Donkey said:
It was not a lie. You have no reason to assume it is. What she said was all true.
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It's hard to change a (emotional, false) bumper sticker firmly stuck to one's bumper or cerebral cortex. The lying doesnt seem to bother him either.
 
Lursa said:
It's hard to change a (emotional, false) bumper sticker firmly stuck to one's bumper or cerebral cortex. The lying doesnt seem to bother him either.
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Lursa, do you accept private messages?
 
HonestJoe said:
I’m a little confused about the position you’re taking. You seem to recognise that the law is unnecessary yet are still defending it.
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I can 'explain' it while still believing it is wholly unnecessary. I am very against useless, feel-good legislation.

I agree it’s an extremely rare situation which is why there is the fear that the actual reason for the law is intimidation. Just having a charge brought against them could be highly damaged even if it doesn’t go any further.
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Extremely rare? Please point to it occuring since the other laws mentioned, including the Born Alive law, have been in place?

THey dont occur.

I linked the actual bill for a reason. It specifically refers to abortions and so couldn’t (legally) be applied in any other circumstances.
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If they dont occur, why is it needed? Unicorns dont exist...do we need a law that makes it illegal to ride unicorns?

How can it clarify other laws when it doesn’t reference them. It is entirely new legalisation setting out specific new offences with specific new penalties. Having more laws about the same thing isn’t better, it’s worse. If the existing legalisation needed clarifying, it should be by amendments to those laws, not the introduction of something new and distinct.
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I cant speak to that justification of a useless, feel-good law.

It’s like having laws that says driving above the posted speed limit on any public highway is illegal and laying out a range of penalties based on the circumstances but then bringing in a new bill that states motorbikes going over 55mph on a specific stretch of highway is illegal and carries a $500 fine. That isn’t clarification, it is just additional and unnecessary complication and if it was raised by people who were also campaigning to have motorbikes banned, it would be legitimately suspicious.
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I think you are making my point.
 
Blue Donkey said:
Lursa, do you accept private messages?
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Yes, if my inbox isnt full. If it is, let me know.

But in general, I only respond to catching up or clarifying things in positive communications.
 
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