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    Re: The “KILL IT”¯ Party strikes again

    Quote Originally Posted by Logician Man View Post
    /// all I'm saying /// <---- that seals the deal. You just proved you don't have a valid link to support your 'made-up' claim. Therefore the asinine claim is summarily dismissed on that basis alone.


    Whole lot of people really happy about killing babies.

    But look...I'm not sure what point you think you are making. This is a 100% rat party cause. You ARE pro slaughter...and you should be proud of that. DOnt know why you are so twisted about that. And again...this isnt about abortion...this is about Lizzies hypocrisy. How are you going to pretend to give a **** that Mikey told a woman to kill a baby in the name of business when she advocates for the slaughter of 800,000+ a year in the name of convenience?

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    Re: The “KILL IT”¯ Party strikes again

    No fetuses survive legal abortions. By law, lethal anesthetic injection must be administered. And then the unborn is not removed intact. In order to protect the mother, so there isnt further internal damage, they dismember the *dead* fetus.

    If anyone wants to dispute this...please show data for ANY fetuses surviving legal abortions since such laws have been passed.

    If you object to the current legal procedure, please explain why and try and leave your emotions out of it. It's a medical issue.
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    Even if this were true (it's not), how many million years do you want to spread the infection over?
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    Perhaps it because their population is so old(their own doing)?

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    Re: The “KILL IT”¯ Party strikes again

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post


    Whole lot of people really happy about killing babies.

    But look...I'm not sure what point you think you are making. This is a 100% rat party cause. You ARE pro slaughter...and you should be proud of that. DOnt know why you are so twisted about that. And again...this isnt about abortion...this is about Lizzies hypocrisy. How are you going to pretend to give a **** that Mikey told a woman to kill a baby in the name of business when she advocates for the slaughter of 800,000+ a year in the name of convenience?
    /// You ARE pro slaughter /// <---- You just lost the argument in a major fashion with that asinine claim, Vance.
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    Re: The “KILL IT”¯ Party strikes again

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    The parents can choose to take extreme measures to try and extend the life of the child --OR-- can decide to have the hospital provide palliative/comfort care to the infant, keeping it comfortable until it dies naturally.

    Can anyone opposing the legislation in the OP explain how it's different from this? All it is is legislation recognizing or reinforcing these current laws. And so then, can anyone explain why they would oppose it?
    The bill doesn't explicitly allow for the second option and I think in the wider anti-abortion environment, there is a legitimate fear that and medical staff taking that option at the parent request could be threatened with this law. Similarly, the demand for immediate and unconditional transport to a hospital could be abused to target medical staff who are deemed not to have acted "quickly enough".

    If, as you say, all this does is replicate existing law, why would it be needed? Even if you don't share it, can you at least understand to fear of such legislation being abused to scare doctors and clinics away from offering abortions?

    Text - S.311 - 116th Congress (2019-2020): Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

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    Re: The “KILL IT”¯ Party strikes again

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Because they “love the children... and if they survive an abortion... it’s not a life... it’s still a choice.

    Either the kids lives, or they’re chopped up and sold as McDemocrat Parts. Flip the coin... how compassionate. How humane.

    Odd they complain about Bloomy. The Democrat Partei is the “KILL IT” Party for decades.

    Mengele would be proud.

    Democrats have no problem saving murderers from death row, but have no problem murdering a baby who is alive during an abortion.

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    Re: The “KILL IT”¯ Party strikes again

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    The bill doesn't explicitly allow for the second option and I think in the wider anti-abortion environment, there is a legitimate fear that and medical staff taking that option at the parent request could be threatened with this law. Similarly, the demand for immediate and unconditional transport to a hospital could be abused to target medical staff who are deemed not to have acted "quickly enough".

    If, as you say, all this does is replicate existing law, why would it be needed? Even if you don't share it, can you at least understand to fear of such legislation being abused to scare doctors and clinics away from offering abortions?

    Text - S.311 - 116th Congress (2019-2020): Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act | Congress.gov | Library of Congress
    Why dont they have those concerns for the preemies and newborns born severely ill/damaged now that fall under the similar laws?

    And I did write that IMO the only reasons for the law were to ensure they were recognized or reinforced...which is what I think you are describing. The clearer and more transparent the laws, the more protected medical staff are.
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    Even if this were true (it's not), how many million years do you want to spread the infection over?
    RE: Italy's mortality rate
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    Perhaps it because their population is so old(their own doing)?

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    Re: The “KILL IT”¯ Party strikes again

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    The bill doesn't explicitly allow for the second option and I think in the wider anti-abortion environment, there is a legitimate fear that and medical staff taking that option at the parent request could be threatened with this law. Similarly, the demand for immediate and unconditional transport to a hospital could be abused to target medical staff who are deemed not to have acted "quickly enough".

    If, as you say, all this does is replicate existing law, why would it be needed? Even if you don't share it, can you at least understand to fear of such legislation being abused to scare doctors and clinics away from offering abortions?

    Text - S.311 - 116th Congress (2019-2020): Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act | Congress.gov | Library of Congress
    I think you misunderstood Lursa. She does not support this law.

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    Re: The “KILL IT”¯ Party strikes again

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Why dont they have those concerns for the preemies and newborns born severely ill/damaged now that fall under the similar laws?
    I don't understand the question. This law only applies to failed abortions. The treatment of (and concern for) any other babies would remain exactly the same regardless.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    And I did write that IMO the only reasons for the law were to ensure they were recognized or reinforced...which is what I think you are describing. The clearer and more transparent the laws, the more protected medical staff are.
    It isn't "recognising" any existing laws, it's entirely separate legislation which just covers circumstances already covered by existing law but in different terms. That isn't making anything clearer, it adds complexity. Again, that's why some people have a legitimate fear that it's true purpose is to scare doctors and clinics away from offering abortions.

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    Re: The “KILL IT”¯ Party strikes again

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    I don't understand the question. This law only applies to failed abortions. The treatment of (and concern for) any other babies would remain exactly the same regardless.

    It isn't "recognising" any existing laws, it's entirely separate legislation which just covers circumstances already covered by existing law but in different terms. That isn't making anything clearer, it adds complexity. Again, that's why some people have a legitimate fear that it's true purpose is to scare doctors and clinics away from offering abortions.
    There are no failed abortions, for the reasons I gave you. If there are, where is the data? How many? How often?

    And why wouldnt the same laws apply to this as to the preemies and other newborns? If it's born alive, that's what it is. OTOH, it would surely be even more medically damaged, because it had to be given that lethal injection and at least partially dismembered. They do not remove whole dead fetuses from women...did you also miss my part about internal damage?

    If anything, this legislation is clarifying the current laws. (Why it's needed, I dont know. I have seen zero cases that this law is based on)
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    Even if this were true (it's not), how many million years do you want to spread the infection over?
    RE: Italy's mortality rate
    Quote Originally Posted by Luther View Post
    Perhaps it because their population is so old(their own doing)?

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    Re: The “KILL IT”¯ Party strikes again

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Because they “love the children... and if they survive an abortion... it’s not a life... it’s still a choice.

    Either the kids lives, or they’re chopped up and sold as McDemocrat Parts. Flip the coin... how compassionate. How humane.

    Odd they complain about Bloomy. The Democrat Partei is the “KILL IT” Party for decades.

    Mengele would be proud.
    Kids in cages!!!!!!!!! TRUMMMMPPPPPP!!!!!!!!! Oh the humanity!!!!!!!! Please disregard the child being put to death after a failed abortion. It's all just "medicine" you know.

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