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    [W:326]*****Death By Pregnancy

    In the US, it's a huge problem

    In 2017, the year with the most recent global data, the United States had a higher maternal death rate than the lower-income countries of Bahrain, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Iran, Japan, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Portugal, Qatar, Korea, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Uruguay, according to separate data from the World Health Organization and several other groups.
    So, forced-birthers need to drop the BS lie that pregnancy is not a danger. It clearly is.

    The rate of pregnancy-related deaths in the United States has steadily increased since 1987.

    In 2018, the year with the most recent national data, 658 women in the United States died while pregnant, in childbirth or within 42 days after pregnancy, according to data in the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's National Vital Statistics Reports in January.
    So, next time you want to force a woman to carry a pregnancy to term, just remember you may actually be playing a significant role in killing her.

    When women die in childbirth, these are the fathers left behind - CNN
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    Re: Death By Pregnancy

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    In the US, it's a huge problem



    So, forced-birthers need to drop the BS lie that pregnancy is not a danger. It clearly is.



    So, next time you want to force a woman to carry a pregnancy to term, just remember you may actually be playing a significant role in killing her.

    When women die in childbirth, these are the fathers left behind - CNN
    Where is the outcry from the prolifers about maternal death? Why are they so silent on this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Where is the outcry from the prolifers about maternal death? Why are they so silent on this?
    Because anti-abortion is not pro-life--it's forced-birth.
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    Yes, it is bs that childbirth is dangerous when the real problem lies within the flaws of our healthcare system...fix the healthcare system 1st...these women wanted their babies...the article should be "WHY Women Die in Childbirth"...

    Langston was born via a planned Cesarean section at 2:33 p.m., and after Kira was out of the operating room, Charles said that he noticed blood running through her catheter -- a sign of excessive bleeding or postpartum hemorrhage.

    "I could see the Foley catheter coming from Kira's bedside begin to turn pink with blood," Charles said, adding that he told doctors numerous times about the bleeding and his concerns.

    "It wasn't until 12:30 a.m. the next morning that they finally made the decision to take Kira back to surgery," he said. "When they took Kira back to surgery, and he opened her up, there were three and a half liters of blood in her abdomen, from where she had been allowed to bleed internally for almost 10 hours, and her heart stopped immediately."

    At 2:22 a.m., Kira was pronounced dead at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles, according to a lawsuit that Charles filed. She was 39 years old.

    Overall, "Cedars-Sinai thoroughly investigates any situation where there are concerns about a patient's medical care," the hospital said.

    "There is a failure and a disconnect for the people who are responsible for the lives of these precious women and babies to see them and value them in the same way that they would their daughters, their mothers, their sisters," Charles said.
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    Re: Death By Pregnancy

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvira View Post
    Yes, it is bs that childbirth is dangerous when the real problem lies within the flaws of our healthcare system...fix the healthcare system 1st...these women wanted their babies...the article should be "WHY Women Die in Childbirth"...
    I agree, we do need to fix these problems. Next question is how.
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    Re: Death By Pregnancy

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvira View Post
    Yes, it is bs that childbirth is dangerous when the real problem lies within the flaws of our healthcare system...fix the healthcare system 1st...these women wanted their babies...the article should be "WHY Women Die in Childbirth"...



    When women die in childbirth, these are the fathers left behind - CNN
    The stats are the stats. The why is up for discussion, of course. But, fact is that in the US, childbirth is a life and death risk for the mother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    The stats are the stats. The why is up for discussion, of course. But, fact is that in the US, childbirth is a life and death risk for the mother.
    The fact is you delivered a dishonest front about this problem...
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    Re: Death By Pregnancy

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvira View Post
    The fact is you delivered a dishonest front about this problem...
    Uh, no. I stated an obvious reason why some women need the option for an abortion to remain open and accessible and, of course, perfectly legal.
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    Re: Death By Pregnancy

    For women between ages 20 and 40, the average probability of death in 365 days (1 year) is 0.08%. (The rate is much higher for men, incidentally.)

    The average probability of death in 316 days (9 months gestation + 42 afterward) is therefore 0.08 · 316/365 = 0.0693%.

    There are 45 million women in the US between the ages of 20 and 40.

    This means that in 316 days in 2018 we expect 0.0693% of 45 million = 31,200 women age 20-40 to die of all causes. In 2018, there were at least 3.79 million live births in the US, equivalent to 3.29 million live births in 316 days. The number of pregnancies is significantly larger, but not all pregnancies fall in between the years of ages 20-40, hence 3.29 million pregnancies in women age 20-40 is a good (albeit conservative) estimate.

    Hence 41.71 million women were not pregnant versus 3.29 million women who were in a given 316-day period in 2018. Based on these proportions, assuming pregnant women and non-pregnant women are equally likely to die, we expect 2,280 deaths of pregnant women and 28,920 deaths of non-pregnant women.

    According to @calamity's link, the number of "women in the United States [who] died while pregnant, in childbirth or within 42 days after pregnancy" in 2018 is, in actuality, 658. This would imply that the death rate for pregnant women age 20-40 is 0.02% and the death rate for non-pregnant women age 20-40 is 0.0732%, or approximately 366% as high.

    Stated differently, a pregnant 20- to 40-year old woman was approximately 73% less likely to die than a 20- to 40-year-old non-pregnant woman in 2018.

    So, next time you want to discourage a woman from carrying a pregnancy to term, just remember you may actually be playing a significant role in killing her.


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    Re: Death By Pregnancy

    Quote Originally Posted by COTO View Post
    For women between ages 20 and 40, the average probability of death in 365 days (1 year) is 0.08%. (The rate is much higher for men, incidentally.)

    The average probability of death in 316 days (9 months gestation + 42 afterward) is therefore 0.08 · 316/365 = 0.0693%.

    There are 45 million women in the US between the ages of 20 and 40.

    This means that in 316 days in 2018 we expect 0.0693% of 45 million = 31,200 women age 20-40 to die of all causes. In 2018, there were at least 3.79 million live births in the US, equivalent to 3.29 million live births in 316 days. The number of pregnancies is significantly larger, but not all pregnancies fall in between the years of ages 20-40, hence 3.29 million pregnancies in women age 20-40 is a good (albeit conservative) estimate.

    Hence 41.71 million women were not pregnant versus 3.29 million women who were in a given 316-day period in 2018. Based on these proportions, assuming pregnant women and non-pregnant women are equally likely to die, we expect 2,280 deaths of pregnant women and 28,920 deaths of non-pregnant women.

    According to @calamity's link, the number of "women in the United States [who] died while pregnant, in childbirth or within 42 days after pregnancy" in 2018 is, in actuality, 658. This would imply that the death rate for pregnant women age 20-40 is 0.02% and the death rate for non-pregnant women age 20-40 is 0.0732%, or approximately 366% as high.

    Stated differently, a pregnant 20- to 40-year old woman was approximately 73% less likely to die than a 20- to 40-year-old non-pregnant woman in 2018.

    So, next time you want to discourage a woman from carrying a pregnancy to term, just remember you may actually be playing a significant role in killing her.

    Your long and statistically laden story omitted the cause of death, which was the entire point of the OP. No woman can die from pregnancy-related causes if she was not pregnant.
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