[W:78]Men not being involved in the abortion debate

DebateChallenge · Feb 17, 2020

minnie616 said:
I Guess you must Have started this thread titled : Men not being involved in the abortion debate because you wanted to highjack the thread and tell women they cannot be involved in a debate about gun control unless they meet your conditions.

You're right about women not being involved in the gun debate unless they are for gun rights as I am, that's the way its supposed to be.

minnie616 said:
In that case you have given up on this thread since it just a ruse to get more replies to your silly gun control thread.

Its not a silly thread.

minnie616 said:
This thread is a fail since you keep trying to redirect it and cannot discuss the fact women On this board do not care if men wish to debate the abortion issue with us.

Some women do care. There are some women that don't want men to be involved in the abortion debate.

TypicalRussian · Feb 17, 2020

Men in America have no reproductive rights, they are forced to be circumcised, forced to pay alimony and give up everything they own for the women in court, they can't get a DNA test in France to prove that they might not be a father.

Let's start talking about men in the child/reproductive and sexual rights too

Lursa · Feb 17, 2020

TypicalRussian said:
Men in America have no reproductive rights, they are forced to be circumcised, forced to pay alimony and give up everything they own for the women in court, they can't get a DNA test in France to prove that they might not be a father.

Let's start talking about men in the child/reproductive and sexual rights too

Great...all worthwhile topics...please post them somewhere appropriate, like the Law & Order sub-forum.

They're not about abortion, so this is the wrong place.

Patriotic Voter · Feb 18, 2020

danielpalos said:
Is it wrong to get a vasectomy and "goad women to have my baby"?

Your question makes no sense.

Dragonfly · Feb 18, 2020

Blue Donkey said:
Your question makes no sense.

You'll find that is a very common "style" from him. Very common.

Dragonfly · Feb 18, 2020

DebateChallenge said:
Its not a silly thread.

At least you got one thing right in this thread.

It's not silly at all.

It's pathetically stupid, and rather insane, but it ain't silly.

American · Feb 18, 2020

hermit said:
Everyone is entitled to have an opinion and to share it. But having said that, I would never allow a man or anyone else to tell me I can or cannot have an abortion.

You can't have an abortion. :mrgreen:

it's just me · Feb 18, 2020

DebateChallenge said:
There are some people who say that since men don't get pregnant and have babies they therefore shouldn't be involved in the abortion debate, no matter what side they might take. What do you all think about that?

It's B.S.

TypicalRussian · Feb 18, 2020

Lursa said:
Great...all worthwhile topics...please post them somewhere appropriate, like the Law & Order sub-forum.

They're not about abortion, so this is the wrong place.

No, Law and Order is not about reproductive rights,now this forum might say abortion but that is pretty much the same thing as Reproductive rights, Law and Order are for different laws and Police ****

minnie616 · Feb 18, 2020

TypicalRussian said:
No, Law and Order is not about reproductive rights,now this forum might say abortion but that is pretty much the same thing as Reproductive rights, Law and Order are for different laws and Police ****

Then request that Debate politics add a new subforum titled sexual rights or Reproductive Rights because the abortion forum is not the place to discuss reproductive rights that do not include abortion.

TypicalRussian · Feb 18, 2020

minnie616 said:
Then request that Debate politics add a new subforum titled sexual rights or Reproductive Rights because the abortion forum is not the place to discuss reproductive rights that do not include abortion.

yET MY POST DOES involve abortion

Lursa · Feb 18, 2020

TypicalRussian said:
No, Law and Order is not about reproductive rights,now this forum might say abortion but that is pretty much the same thing as Reproductive rights, Law and Order are for different laws and Police ****

"Rights" are a legal concept. Enforced by the justice system. These things are covered in the Law and Order forum. Or you can go to the forum on the US Constitution, also focused on rights.

Abortion is a specific topic. Child support, from one of your examples, has nothing to do with abortion. If you have an abortion, there will be no child support :doh Or alimony? How is that related to abortion or even reproduction?

Please try to understand the difference.

And btw, your post doesnt even make sense. See the bold:

TypicalRussian said:
Men in America have no reproductive rights, they are forced to be circumcised, forced to pay alimony and give up everything they own for the women in court, they can't get a DNA test in France to prove that they might not be a father.

Let's start talking about men in the child/reproductive and sexual rights too

TypicalRussian · Feb 18, 2020

Lursa said:
"Rights" are a legal concept. Enforced by the justice system. These things are covered in the Law and Order forum. Or you can go to the forum on the US Constitution, also focused on rights.

Abortion is a specific topic. Child support, from one of your examples, has nothing to do with abortion. If you have an abortion, there will be no child support :doh Or alimony? How is that related to abortion or even reproduction?

Please try to understand the difference.

And btw, your post doesnt even make sense. See the bold:

Yet Abortion is a debate on rights? So talk about it needs to be on the Law and Order forum. If abortion is outlawed then men will be forced to pay child support and alimony.

Lursa · Feb 18, 2020

TypicalRussian said:
Yet Abortion is a debate on rights? So talk about it needs to be on the Law and Order forum. If abortion is outlawed then men will be forced to pay child support and alimony.

Except that there is a separate forum for Abortion, specifically :doh

Just like for guns, also most discussions based on rights, yet has its own forum *sigh*

Nothing like joining a new discussion forum site and telling us how to run it. :roll:

(And abortion isnt going to be outlawed in the US)

minnie616 · Feb 18, 2020

TypicalRussian said:
Yet Abortion is a debate on rights? So talk about it needs to be on the Law and Order forum. If abortion is outlawed then men will be forced to pay child support and alimony.

We already have an abortion forum.
Abortion is not going to be outlawed.

Men are already being forced by states to pay child support.

TypicalRussian · Feb 18, 2020

minnie616 said:
We already have an abortion forum.
Abortion is not going to be outlawed.

Men are already being forced by states to pay child support.

Wow you want men to be forced to pay support?

TypicalRussian · Feb 18, 2020

Lursa said:
Except that there is a separate forum for Abortion, specifically :doh

Just like for guns, also most discussions based on rights, yet has its own forum *sigh*

Nothing like joining a new discussion forum site and telling us how to run it. :roll:

(And abortion isnt going to be outlawed in the US)

What is with all these rules, just discuss what I have brought

Lursa · Feb 18, 2020

TypicalRussian said:
What is with all these rules, just discuss what I have brought

??? There are rules and the rules say that continually posting off-topic is against the rules.

Maybe you should read them.

TypicalRussian · Feb 18, 2020

lursa said:
??? There are rules and the rules say that continually posting off-topic is against the rules.

Maybe you should read them.

how was it off topic

hermit · Feb 18, 2020

American said:
You can't have an abortion. :mrgreen:

Ok, that was funny. :wink2:

I should have said, I would have an abortion if I felt it was necessary, regardless of what anyone thought was right or wrong for me.

captaintrips · Feb 18, 2020

DebateChallenge said:
There are some people who say that since men don't get pregnant and have babies they therefore shouldn't be involved in the abortion debate, no matter what side they might take. What do you all think about that?

Foolishness.

It TAKES a man to make a woman pregnant.

Half of the people killed by "abortion" are male.

Murder was NEVER a right, UNTIL we decided to call it something else - "abortion" - AND tell ourselves that we weren't really killing someone ...

....as usual, word games and "redefinitions" make us 'feel good' about our sick choices/decisions.

TypicalRussian said:
Wow you want men to be forced to pay support?

As was already pointed out; They are forced to pay support for their offspring.

As they should be.

Logician Man · Feb 19, 2020

DebateChallenge said:
Because the world of guns is by and large mostly a world of men.

BTW I suppose you could compare the size of a gun to a woman's breasts.

Rights for male gun owners are the very same as the rights for female gun owners. The same doesn't apply to male's rights and female's rights on the abortion issue. Bad analogy.

DebateChallenge · Feb 19, 2020

Logician Man said:
Rights for male gun owners are the very same as the rights for female gun owners. The same doesn't apply to male's rights and female's rights on the abortion issue. Bad analogy.

You've got a point there, when we talk about gun rights its gun rights for both men and women. So therefore women should be for gun rights. Its women who are against gun rights who should have no voice in the gun rights debate as I describe in this thread. https://www.debatepolitics.com/gun-...ng-involved-gun-debate-25.html#post1071371222

year2late · Feb 19, 2020

DebateChallenge said:
You've got a point there, when we talk about gun rights its gun rights for both men and women. So therefore women should be for gun rights. Its women who are against gun rights who should have no voice in the gun rights debate as I describe in this thread. https://www.debatepolitics.com/gun-...ng-involved-gun-debate-25.html#post1071371222

You seem to be going off half cocked.

minnie616 · Feb 19, 2020

DebateChallenge said:
You've got a point there, when we talk about gun rights its gun rights for both men and women. So therefore women should be for gun rights. Its women who are against gun rights who should have no voice in the gun rights debate as I describe in this thread. ://www.debatepolitics.com/gun-control/.... (Women Being involved in The Gun Debate )

year2late said:
You seem to be going off half cocked.

He is using this thread to advertise his stupid gun debate thread.

Pretty sad.

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