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Abortion Clinic Volunteer Claims Rape by Abortion Doctor: Surprise! These Aren't Nice People.

Indie guy said:
Refer to gays how? Queer?

Out of curiosity, did you watch the Oscars and Joaquin Phoenix's statement about "queer rights"? I didn't hear any objections to that.
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I did and it surprised me. But I dont really follow Hollywood so I dont know if there was any fallout from it or not.
 
Lursa said:
I did and it surprised me. But I dont really follow Hollywood so I dont know if there was any fallout from it or not.
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Well given that LGBTQ is widely accepted and Queer Eye for the Straight Guy(s) are iconic....there shouldn't be much of an issue.
 
weaver2 said:
The Church's problem was not with gays, it was with pedophiles.
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It was also about people protecting gays like the archbishop of LA who has just been sued over it. That has nothing to do with gays....it was about a church that encourages the protection of pedophiles
 
year2late said:
Well given that LGBTQ is widely accepted and Queer Eye for the Straight Guy(s) are iconic....there shouldn't be much of an issue.
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The Q can stand for questioning or queer.

But I did find this:

QUEER: Once considered a demeaning slur for being gay, “queer” is being reclaimed by some as a self-affirming umbrella term, especially among those who consider other labels restrictive. Some still believe it’s a homophobic slur, so it’s always best to ask or wait for the person whom you’re speaking with to use it.

What does the Q in LGBTQ stand for?
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Times change, I've seen it go from common, to slur, and now back to accepted?
 
Lursa said:
The Q can stand for questioning or queer.

But I did find this:



Times change, I've seen it go from common, to slur, and now back to accepted?
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I grew up in SF (60's and 70's)...queer for most folks I knew was neither here now there. Usually the intolerant/bigots would use the term "faggot".

That being said, depending how and why something is said (context) even "gay" can sound like a slur.

But I do get the whole reclaiming thing - especially in areas that were known to be intolerant.

T
 
Indie guy said:
They still do and will continue to do so as long as priests are required to be celibate. This is the probably the most god-awful idiotic rule ever conceived in any established church because it goes completely against human nature.

Because priests cannot date or marry women, this attracts many queers and pedos to the priesthood and to the Catholic church in general. Mashmont should know all about this. He's a closet queer and a devout Catholic so he fits right in.
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See, this is where you atheists miss it. Humans are called upon to be better than the animals who don't and can't control their desires. Men CAN control themselves and do without sex. It's a matter of discipline and a will to be moral. Yours is the same loser thinking that says 'kids will have sex, so you might as well given them condoms'. Horrible advice that underestimates and harms kids.
 
Mashmont said:
The difference is the way the Marxist media reports. By their stories, you would think every priests molests boys, simply because the media has an agenda against the Catholic Church. But we have shown sexual molestation incidents are hundreds of times higher in the government public school system, yet we have almost no stories on that.

So one can reasonably infer the media is hiding abuse in abortion clinics, since their mission is to promote and protect abortion. And again, these are not nice people in the baby-killing business by definition. Why would we expect them to be any different in other areas?
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Who can argue with such stunning logic?
 
Lursa said:
I did and it surprised me. But I dont really follow Hollywood so I dont know if there was any fallout from it or not.
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Like with so-called "racist' comments, leftwing outrage is all fake. Proof of that is leftwingers can say 'racist' or 'homophobic' words, and there is no outrage. But if a conservative says it, it's the most offensive thing ever.

The PC garbage is a frayd. PC was invented to be used as a political battering ram against the right.
 
Nickyjo said:
Who can argue with such stunning logic?
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It is logical. The Marxist media has an agenda. the protect leftwing groups and hammer conservative Christian groups.
 
Mashmont said:
It is logical. The Marxist media has an agenda. the protect leftwing groups and hammer conservative Christian groups.
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More of the marxism stupidity. The media in the US has one goal, speak it's mind and make profit, hence not marxist. How difficult is it to voice facts. And the only reason they hammer conservative groups when it comes to freedom to choose (and other things, I am sure) is because these conservative christian groups are mostly completely out of touch with reality and say idiotic and women hating things.

Now of you do that, you must expect push back from most of the media as they are not conservative. That is not because they are so to the left, but because the conservative christian pro-life mob is so far out to the right that they can hardly even see the political center. In other words, it is not the fault of the media who is too left wing it is mostly your mob who are tooooooooooo far to the right.
 
Peter King said:
More of the marxism stupidity. The media in the US has one goal, speak it's mind and make profit, hence not marxist. How difficult is it to voice facts. And the only reason they hammer conservative groups when it comes to freedom to choose (and other things, I am sure) is because these conservative christian groups are mostly completely out of touch with reality and say idiotic and women hating things.

Now of you do that, you must expect push back from most of the media as they are not conservative. That is not because they are so to the left, but because the conservative christian pro-life mob is so far out to the right that they can hardly even see the political center. In other words, it is not the fault of the media who is too left wing it is mostly your mob who are tooooooooooo far to the right.
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Another stupid comment. FOX leads all cable outlets combined in audience. CNN is last. But they don't care about lost ad revenue. They are there to push a leftwing agenda.
 
Mashmont said:
Another stupid comment. FOX leads all cable outlets combined in audience. CNN is last. But they don't care about lost ad revenue. They are there to push a leftwing agenda.
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Sure, because all the conservatives watch one network, the only one that agrees with them in their stupidity when it comes to women's rights, abortion and all other things conservatives whine about. The rest of the media has to share their viewership with other networks. Foxnews does not have that problem because they are the only one close to falling off the edge on the extreme right side of the political spectrum.
 
Peter King said:
Sure, because all the conservatives watch one network, the only one that agrees with them in their stupidity when it comes to women's rights, abortion and all other things conservatives whine about. The rest of the media has to share their viewership with other networks. Foxnews does not have that problem because they are the only one close to falling off the edge on the extreme right side of the political spectrum.
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More people watch the MSM than have ever watched fox
 
Peter King said:
Sure, because all the conservatives watch one network, the only one that agrees with them in their stupidity when it comes to women's rights, abortion and all other things conservatives whine about. The rest of the media has to share their viewership with other networks. Foxnews does not have that problem because they are the only one close to falling off the edge on the extreme right side of the political spectrum.
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Nobody's watching the leftwing cable networks. They are all in the toilet. FOX' audience is bigger than all combined.
 
Mashmont said:
Nobody's watching the leftwing cable networks. They are all in the toilet. FOX' audience is bigger than all combined.
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Hahahaha

Factually incorrect
 
Mashmont said:
But we have shown sexual molestation incidents are hundreds of times higher in the government public school system, yet we have almost no stories on that.
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There you go again; posting a lie. You have been told according to available studies, .01% of all priests abuse or have abused children and that .007% of public school teachers abuse children. Furthermore you have been told that all public schools have a clearly stated policy that abuse will be reported, prosecuted and the teacher will be banned from teaching ever again. The Church has a policy of covering up the abuse and sending the priest to another parish.

Your above statement is a lie.
 
Mashmont said:
It is logical. The Marxist media has an agenda. the protect leftwing groups and hammer conservative Christian groups.
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Lie.

Mashmont said:
Another stupid comment. FOX leads all cable outlets combined in audience. CNN is last. But they don't care about lost ad revenue. They are there to push a leftwing agenda.
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Another ludicrous mashmont lie.

Are you going for the DP record for most consecutive lies told?
 
weaver2 said:
There you go again; posting a lie. You have been told according to available studies, .01% of all priests abuse or have abused children and that .007% of public school teachers abuse children. Furthermore you have been told that all public schools have a clearly stated policy that abuse will be reported, prosecuted and the teacher will be banned from teaching ever again. The Church has a policy of covering up the abuse and sending the priest to another parish.

Your above statement is a lie.
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Yes, your statement above IS a lie. Thank you.
 
Scrabaholic said:
So, you can't cite your source. Got it.
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He never does. I am still waiting for him to link to a source that proves his claim about the Nobel Prize committee being Marxists. Poor old Mashmont loses yet another debate!
 
weaver2 said:
There you go again; posting a lie. You have been told according to available studies, .01% of all priests abuse or have abused children and that .007% of public school teachers abuse children. Furthermore you have been told that all public schools have a clearly stated policy that abuse will be reported, prosecuted and the teacher will be banned from teaching ever again. The Church has a policy of covering up the abuse and sending the priest to another parish.

Your above statement is a lie.
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God will punish him.
 
We have no reliable figures on just how many priests in the Catholic Church are gay. The Vatican has conducted many studies on its own clergy but never on this subject. In the United States, however, where there are 37,000 priests, no independent study has found fewer than 15 percent to be gay, and some have found as many as 60 percent. The consensus in my own research over the past few months converged on around 30 to 40 percent among parish priests and considerably more than that — as many as 60 percent or higher — among religious orders like the Franciscans or the Jesuits.

This fact hangs in the air as a giant, unsustainable paradox. A church that, since 2005, bans priests with “deep-seated homosexual tendencies” and officially teaches that gay men are “objectively disordered” and inherently disposed toward “intrinsic moral evil” is actually composed, in ways very few other institutions are, of gay men.

The massive cognitive dissonance this requires is becoming harder to sustain. The collapse of the closet in public and private life in the past three decades has made the disproportionate homosexuality of the Catholic priesthood much less easy to hide, ignore, or deny. This cultural and moral shift has not only changed the consciousness of most American Catholics (67 percent of whom support civil marriage for gay couples) and gay priests (many of whom are close to quitting) but also broken the silence that long shrouded the subject.
Gay Priests and the Lives They No Longer Want to Hide
 
Lursa said:
:doh

Oh, so "you talked to a guy" :roll:
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Yes. I talked to a young man who just recently went through seminary. Told me the things they asked and tested for. So I know what I am talking about, whereas you don't.
 
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