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    Re: Abortion & Christ

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    Re: Abortion & Christ

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Again, what part of choice dont you get? Are you now insisting that women are obligated to reproduce???

    And you are just one of many that takes the risks that women undertake for granted. yes...it's the only way. So it's ok to take the significant risks for granted? Every single woman that goes into labor, and every father waiting in the delivery room, and their family and friends, are all out there praying or hoping for safe delivery for mother and baby. Dont bother denying it.

    So, gee...why do you think they're all praying and hoping and 'sending good thoughts?' Why are they worried, if it's just a walk in the park?
    Then get sterilized, don't risk it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    And what guarantees did those medical professionals give you? 100% survival? Or did they also describe any risks involved?

    there are no guarantees. I'm glad you were so naive or comfortable that you just accepted their confidence. And were lucky.
    I would trust them before I'd trust you.
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    Re: Abortion & Christ

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Both my daughters and a friends... who ended up having a stroke that negatively affects her life to this day.

    Abortion should be and thankfully is a legal option that women can take.

    The only problem is that it is not accessible enough.
    Then you should get sterilized, too.
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    Re: Abortion & Christ

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    Then get sterilized, don't risk it.
    Wow, a little new perspective you werent prepared for there, eh?

    Anyway, sure...that's also any woman's choice.
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    This seems less like palliative care and more like a last meal.
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    Parrots of the Caribbean For Abortion!
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Abortion & Christ

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    I would trust them before I'd trust you.
    Witty!
    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    This seems less like palliative care and more like a last meal.
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    Parrots of the Caribbean For Abortion!
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Abortion & Christ

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Wow, a little new perspective you werent prepared for there, eh?

    Anyway, sure...that's also any woman's choice.
    Listen, lady, I have a son who is dying of stage 4 pancreatic cancer. Kill your own kids if you want to, your petty problems are of no concern to me. You can pretend life is cheap, I don't and won't agree. You will answer to your maker.
    I'm sorry if you don't like my honesty, but to be fair, I don't like your lies, either.

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    Re: Abortion & Christ

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    No, you're not right. Again, women have children every day without complications, this is not the 1800s.

    ...every day 830 women die from pregnancy or childbirth related causes.[5] According to the United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA) 2017 report, this is equivalent to "about one woman every two minutes and for every woman who dies, 20 or 30 encounter complications with serious or long-lasting consequences. Most of these deaths and injuries are entirely preventable."

    UNFPA estimated that 303,000 women died of pregnancy or childbirth related causes in 2015.
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    Re: Abortion & Christ

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    No, you're not right. Again, women have children every day without complications, this is not the 1800s.
    I had several severe complications as well as surgery to give birth.

    My initial complication was found on a routine visit. My OB saw a subtle sign and looked further. The funny thing is that because my OB was extra cautious and was doing extra tests outside of usual parameters....they denied payment for the tests. The tests, by the way, showed what my OB feared....my kidneys were under attack. The scary thing is - I FELT FINE. Many women who are working poor - struggling to pay rent.....blow off some of the OB visits when they feel ok. My guess is that if I blew off that visit (so I could work to pay rent) I would have been destined for dialysis or death. The onset was that abrupt.

    I was off work for nearly 6 months due to the complications and surgery. I was lucky they kept my job open for me. FMLA only take you 12 weeks. Would your family have been able to whether 6 months without income? Even 25 years ago COBRA was a bite in the ass. I still have some leftover kidney and vascular issues from that pregnancy. I was in good health prior to pregnancy.

    Women who choose abortion are usually poorly resourced. No insurance or Medicaid. Dependent on busy clinics that have very long waits even with appointment. They are housing insecure, barely able to make rent...missing a day of a paycheck for these women means being in real jeopardy of being homeless or in a shelter (which can be worse!) They also may have poor social resources. Family and friends with minimal (if any resources) in case she needs help.

    This may not me the 1800s.....for these women......perhaps it is closer to the Great Depression - when housing (etc!) insecurity lead many women to get abortions.

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    Re: Abortion & Christ

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    Listen, lady, I have a son who is dying of stage 4 pancreatic cancer. Kill your own kids if you want to, your petty problems are of no concern to me. You can pretend life is cheap, I don't and won't agree. You will answer to your maker.
    I'm very sorry for the struggle your family is going thru.

    I wish the best for your son.
    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    This seems less like palliative care and more like a last meal.
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    Parrots of the Caribbean For Abortion!
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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