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    Re: If Life begins at Conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Yes but anyone can care for it, a woman's right to bodily sovereignty doesnt have to be violated to do so.
    Bodily sovereignty means she also has the right to inhale, ingest, or inject anything she wants. Do you agree she has the right to inject heroin into her own body if she chooses to?

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    Re: If Life begins at Conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWonka View Post
    We don't know the date that Jesus was born either. They arbitrarily picked Dec. 25th because it coincided with the solstice. It just seems like the actual date of birth for Christians should be largely irrelevant when compared to the day of conception.
    Yes. Its actually the catholic church that put the Christ in Christmas when they hi-jacked a pagan holiday and made it their own. They actually started the "war on Christmas" by conquering a holiday that wasn't theirs in the first place.

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    Re: If Life begins at Conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Yes but anyone can care for it, a woman's right to bodily sovereignty doesnt have to be violated to do so.
    LOL, "body sovereignty"? WTF is that? IMHO once another life is involved sovereignty needs to be tempered.
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    Re: If Life begins at Conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWonka View Post
    We don't know the date that Jesus was born either. They arbitrarily picked Dec. 25th because it coincided with the solstice.
    This is true. Some scholars say he was born in the spring, others say summer. We will likely never know.

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    Re: If Life begins at Conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Christians do not want to celebrate God raping Mary...
    Mary consented, so it was not rape.

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    Re: If Life begins at Conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bullseye View Post
    And when it's born it's ready to survive without any assistance at all? Actually doesn't it require EVEN MORE care after birth than while it's in the womb?
    Any competent person can care for it after birth.

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    Re: If Life begins at Conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by aociswundumho View Post
    Bodily sovereignty means she also has the right to inhale, ingest, or inject anything she wants. Do you agree she has the right to inject heroin into her own body if she chooses to?
    Yes, though she would be a fool to do so.

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    Re: If Life begins at Conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by aociswundumho View Post
    Bodily sovereignty means she also has the right to inhale, ingest, or inject anything she wants. Do you agree she has the right to inject heroin into her own body if she chooses to?
    Yup, and the right to commit suicide and to have sex with any consenting adult she chooses, and IMO, to be a prostitute, and the list goes on....
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    This seems less like palliative care and more like a last meal.
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    Re: If Life begins at Conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bullseye View Post
    LOL, "body sovereignty"? WTF is that? IMHO once another life is involved sovereignty needs to be tempered.
    Says someone whose body will never suffer the ravages of pregnancy and childbirth.

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    Re: If Life begins at Conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bullseye View Post
    LOL, "body sovereignty"? WTF is that? IMHO once another life is involved sovereignty needs to be tempered.
    From page one:
    "Who says" all life must be saved? Or have rights? What authority?

    Most especially, what authority says that the life of the unborn should be preserved at the expense of a woman's life? A life is more than just a heartbeat...we're talking about a future, self-determination, etc. Is the unborn more deserving of those things than a woman? If so, why?

    I value quality of life over quantity.
    ..just reducing humans to numbers is demeaning.
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    This seems less like palliative care and more like a last meal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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