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    Re: Male Post-Conception Opt Out

    I wanted to run a situation past you. In Mexico if a woman becomes a single mother, it is very likely that she will become a prostitute. As a Catholic, she won't abort because she believes it's a mortal sin. Mexican men consider a single mother as damaged goods and won't go near them. I'm not advocating any specific action, just pointing out a certain reality.

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    Re: Male Post-Conception Opt Out

    Quote Originally Posted by Crusader13 View Post
    Didn't you know gender and biology are just social constructs created by evil white men under the patriarchy? This has been the feminist argument for decades now, so stick with it. WOMEN AND MEN ARE 100.0000% the same! Anything otherwise is SEXISMMM!!

    It's hilarious to hear those on the Left suddenly revert to biology...but when it's a matter of biology favoring men in certain instances (eg competitive sports), they demand that everything possible be done to even the playing field and help women catch up. LOL sorry, can't have it both ways. Men have lost the ability to play the "biology" argument a long time ago, so you don't get to use it either sweetheart.
    Gender and biology are not social constructs they are facts and the feminist argument has never been based on either, ever. Women have fought against the denial of jobs they are perfectly capable of doing and/or lower payment for doing exactly the same job as a male. Medicine, university level teaching posts, engineering, high level administrative jobs, heavy equipment operators, the law, finance, government, politics, commercial piloting are just a few of the fields where women have been denied a job or paid less. As far as rights go the list is almost as long: voting, owning property, signing financial contracts, opening a bank account without having a male countersign, activity appropriate clothing, riding astride, speaking in a public forum, running for and holding political office, equal ownership of children, child support, divorce, contraception and abortion.

    Women have never asked for or expected competitive sports rules be changed to give them a physical advantage in order to play with men. They have demanded leagues of their own for sports they had the capacity and talent to play. Women have asked for equal financing and opportunity. Neither of those requests have required discrimination against men nor have they denied men financing and opportunity to play competitive sports.

    If you want to be completely accurate men are the ones that have used gender and biology to keep women out of competition.

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    Re: Male Post-Conception Opt Out

    Quote Originally Posted by Crusader13 View Post
    Women can have sex and still protect themselves from parenthood. If men don't want to become parents, they need to repress their sexual urges......who cares about their needs and desires!
    Oh, for God's sake. Sex is supposed to be a mutual activity. Be polite. Take a shower. Smile. Treat women as if you at least liked them as if they were something more than just an inflatable doll. Use contraceptives. Behave like a gentleman. Alternatively, Ask your friends what other measures relieve your needs and urges. Or hire a professional that puts up with anti-social bonobos.

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    Re: Male Post-Conception Opt Out

    Quote Originally Posted by Crusader13 View Post
    Uh, so disgraceful. Didn't you know gender and biology are just social constructs created by evil white men under the patriarchy? This has been the feminist argument for decades now, so stick with it. WOMEN AND MEN ARE 100.0000% the same! Anything otherwise is SEXISMMM!!

    It's hilarious to hear those on the Left suddenly revert to biology...but when it's a matter of biology favoring men in certain instances (eg competitive sports), they demand that everything possible be done to even the playing field and help women catch up. LOL sorry, can't have it both ways. Men have lost the ability to play the "biology" argument a long time ago, so you don't get to use it either sweetheart.



    That's like saying a prisoner and a free man both have equal rights because they can both breathe air and blink. It's a little more complicated than that.

    Women can have sex and still protect themselves from parenthood. If men don't want to become parents, they need to repress their sexual urges...hey what'ya know, when the Republicans told gay people to do the same, it was an international travesty and human rights violation! But this is just regular ol' men were talking about here. It's OK to tell them to repress their natural urges...who cares about their needs and desires!



    Strange...I thought child support was supposed to be all about the CHILD? Now you're saying is just women looking out for their personal interests. Ah now I get it.



    I suppose that would be OK, but to make it fair we'd have to do this too; man agrees to pay child support if woman equally shares HIS consequences. If he has to work extra hours to come up with the money, the woman should be forced to do the same number of hours of unpaid work. If he has to forego his power bill to afford child support payments, the woman should have to shut her power off for that month too. If the man dies at the job that produces the woman's child support payments, the woman is put to death as well. She wanted him to pay child support without a way to opt out - she should have to bear the consequences equally!

    So sure, I'm fine with men having to bear the burden of pregnancy equally, as long as women are fine with the above. Keep in mind that the number of men who die at work is significantly higher than the number of women who die during pregnancy, so it won't take long for women to complain that this system of forced equality is also sexist! Can't win.
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    Re: Male Post-Conception Opt Out

    Quote Originally Posted by weaver2 View Post
    Gender and biology are not social constructs they are facts and the feminist argument has never been based on either, ever.
    Lies. The feminist/Leftist argument has spouted the nonsense that a man can be a woman and a woman can be a man at the simple deduction of a feeling. They've also ignored the notion that men are better at certain things because of biology, claiming instead that male athletes bring in more ticket sales and get paid more money because the whole system is sexist. Then there's the outrage that women don't get paid as much because they get pregnant and can't work...also labelled by the feminist as an act of sexism rather than simple biology.

    Women have fought against the denial of jobs they are perfectly capable of doing and/or lower payment for doing exactly the same job as a male.
    More nonsense. Women are not as good as men are at certain jobs, and their career choices prove it. The reason men earn more money is because of their career choices, which are driven by biology. Studies have shown women are far less interested in material possessions and wealth which can explain why they're not as inclined to go into high paying fields or chase promotions.

    Of course, this biological argument has already been dismissed multiple times quite aggressively by the feminist/Leftist crowd. In fact, Google famously fired one of their top software engineers for saying this.

    Women have never asked for or expected competitive sports rules be changed to give them a physical advantage in order to play with men.
    More wrong. Women have lobbied endlessly to be paid the same amount of money in professional sports such as soccer or tennis...despite the fact that women's tennis matches are shorter, lead to less air time, and bring in less ticket revenue. Women's soccer matches are the same length but the global revenue delivered is fractional compared to what the men bring in. So in essence, women are demanding that men give up the money they've rightfully earned and share it with them because they're not good enough to earn it themselves. The US and Australian women's teams have already had these extortion requests granted.

    Women have meticulously searched for every area of life where men have a biological advantage and asked for measures put in place to even the playing field. Don't pretend this isn't the case. When women's biology is responsible for them getting pregnant and losing time in the workforce, they demand measures to be put in place to make up for it. But when women's biology is responsible for them getting pregnant and having a free get-out-of-parenthood card at the expense of men, they demand that biology be left alone and nothing needs to be done to equal the playing field. Just LOL
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    Re: Male Post-Conception Opt Out

    Quote Originally Posted by Crusader13 View Post
    .......man agrees to pay child support if woman equally shares HIS consequences. If he has to work extra hours to come up with the money, the woman should be forced to do the same number of hours of unpaid work. If he has to forego his power bill to afford child support payments, the woman should have to shut her power off for that month too. If the man dies at the job .........I'm fine with men having to bear the burden of pregnancy equally, as long as women are fine with the above.
    If a woman aborts nothing is required from you. If she doesn't she also has a child to support. Let's hope she is happier and more caring about what she created than the men weeping about being forced into child support or marriage.

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    Re: Male Post-Conception Opt Out

    Quote Originally Posted by weaver2 View Post
    If a woman aborts nothing is required from you. If she doesn't she also has a child to support. .
    Now I get it. Men are good for nothing but to pay your bills, so you shove them aside and give them no say in anything until you need them. Got it.

    Your wording is also quite clear. She doesn't abort, in which case she has a child to support. So how is that his problem? If she can't afford to support the child she shouldn't have had it.

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    Re: Male Post-Conception Opt Out

    Quote Originally Posted by weaver2 View Post
    Oh, for God's sake. Sex is supposed to be a mutual activity. Be polite. Take a shower. Smile. Treat women as if you at least liked them as if they were something more than just an inflatable doll. Use contraceptives. Behave like a gentleman. Alternatively, Ask your friends what other measures relieve your needs and urges. Or hire a professional that puts up with anti-social bonobos.
    None of that addresses the argument of a post conception opt-out.

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    Re: Male Post-Conception Opt Out

    "Be a gentlemen"

    We already tried that. It got called toxic masculinity and women started complaining about it too. The whining never ends with this lot.

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    Re: Male Post-Conception Opt Out

    Quote Originally Posted by Crusader13 View Post
    Now I get it. Men are good for nothing but to pay your bills, so you shove them aside and give them no say in anything until you need them. Got it.

    Your wording is also quite clear. She doesn't abort, in which case she has a child to support. So how is that his problem? If she can't afford to support the child she shouldn't have had it.
    First you want to opt-out. Now you want to b consulted. Then you complain about child support What is it you want????

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