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Can a person who has have an abortion be "Pro Life"?

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I believe so, what are your thoughts?
 
People behave and believe hypocritically all the time.

And they also legitimately change their minds.
 
I believe so, what are your thoughts?
based on the definition and many possible needs of an abortion . . .of course :shrug:

also, there are many people that dont want to violate the rights of others so they are simply personally prolife and then even within their prolife believes they have exceptions
 
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What is most likely is that they already had designated themselves "pro life" then they got pregnant and for one day became pro-choice then went back to being pro-life again.
 
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Yes, because many prolife people will make an exception for saving the mother's life. So if that was the reason, then you can have had an abortion and still be prolife.

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This Tennesee congressman was:

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REP. SCOTT DESJARLAIS, R-Tenn., is seeking re-election in 2014, in spite of a turbulent year punctuated by revelations he urged a mistress and his ex-wife to have abortions. The congressman publicly opposes legal access to abortion.
 
What is most likely is that they already had designated themselves "pro life" then they got pregnant and for one day became pro-choice then went back to being pro-life again.

You're saying it impossible to be pro life and pro choice?

I don't think that is the least bit true.
 
You're saying it impossible to be pro life and pro choice?

I don't think that is the least bit true.

Never said anything of the sort. I think it is entirely possible that a person have a true change in belief after abortion.

But I think many profess to be prolife until they want an abortion. They have it anyway and go back to professing prolife.

There have been many stories of women feeling it necessary to get an abortion because of the shame and anger from devoutly religious parents.They have a moment of pro-choice out of fear and go back to professing prolife beliefs after their abortion. Many of these same women feel guilt or shame over going in for contraception, which makes them doubly at risk. They are even more at risk if there is no PP to get contraception, because they are unlikely to go to their family MD.
 
Never said anything of the sort. I think it is entirely possible that a person have a true change in belief after abortion.

But I think many profess to be prolife until they want an abortion. They have it anyway and go back to professing prolife.

There have been many stories of women feeling it necessary to get an abortion because of the shame and anger from devoutly religious parents.They have a moment of pro-choice out of fear and go back to professing prolife beliefs after their abortion. Many of these same women feel guilt or shame over going in for contraception, which makes them doubly at risk. They are even more at risk if there is no PP to get contraception, because they are unlikely to go to their family MD.

You are being specific.
What about a male who will never have an abortion.
They can be pro life and pro choice every moment of every day.
 
Look at the male politicians that win their elections based on their pro-life bonafides and go on to push their mistresses to abort.

You are correct. Deljarless (sp) is not the only right-wing hypocrite.
 
You are being specific.
What about a male who will never have an abortion.
They can be pro life and pro choice every moment of every day.

How can you be both for making abortion illegal and against making it illegal at the same time?
 
How can you be both for making abortion illegal and against making it illegal at the same time?

One can't. And I never said anything like that.
But one can be pro choice, meaning it's up to each person and circumstance while at the same time, not personally for abortion.
In fact, I'd say, but for a few, everyone will say abortion is ok under some circumstance. IE rape, incest, fetus will be completely disabled, etc.

There can be many many many reasons for an abortion. While generally not for abortion as a personal choice.
 
I would say most abortions are for convenience and that’s what I'm against.

I'm okay with an abortion if, for example: Rape, incest, health of the mother or if the baby will be severely disabled.
 
I'd argue that having an abortion is pro-life, in that it...

reduces poverty
filters out deformity
prevents really bad marriages
leads to better opportunity
sucks a little less air away from the rest of us.
 
I believe so, what are your thoughts?

Of course one can have an abortion and be pro--life. All those conservative women carrying pro-life signs, protesting in parades and yelling (or praying as some claim) at women going into clinics have had abortions at the same rate as pro-choice women.

So yes, it is possible hold two opposing thoughts in your head. I'm against murdering innocent little babies and I'm going to have an abortion to get rid of my boyfriends baby because I'm in college and we're both too young to start a family", which is the same reason as the young women I'm yelling at or praying for who are going into the clinic to get an abortion.

It's not difficult if you think like a conservative Christian that the world is divided into two groups the in-group and the out-group.

The in-group is protected by the law but not bound by it. The out-group is is bound by the law but not protected by it.

That's Wilhoit's principle. It applies to more things than just abortion. Think priests, preachers, Trump, Trump supporters, state aid, Merrick Garland/Bret Kavanaugh,
 
I'd argue that having an abortion is pro-life, in that it...

reduces poverty
filters out deformity
prevents really bad marriages
leads to better opportunity
sucks a little less air away from the rest of us.

Agree. An abortion is always pro-life. Aborting an unplanned and unwanted pregnancy always enables someone and often some family to live a better life. How more pro-life can it get?
 
a recent poll shows that 99.9999% of fetus's are pro-life.......
 
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