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Most conservative males keep reposting nonsense they know is not true about abortion.

yankintx said:
Conservative males only become pro choice when they are on the hook for child support. Just ask Rump, if he had his way when Marla became pregnant with his luv child poor Tiff would never had been born.
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I don't know....he was probably more worried about paying off Ivana. He was happy as a clam having a wife and mistress. If he didn't get caught he probably would have stayed married until she stopped being less trophy-ish.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Most conservative males do not post anything in the abortion sub-forum, yet aside from that your rant is perfectly reasonable.
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ttwtt78640 said:
OK, but that is not any indication that most males (conservative or otherwise) post about (for or against) abortion.
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You are conflating your conditional probabilities. You are claiming that P(post about abortion|conservative male) is low, but the OP discusses P(anti-choice|post about abortion and conservative male), which is much higher.
 
weaver2 said:
Why do conservative males, when talking about abortion, continue to post stuff that simply isn't true, quote known liars, perpetrate old wives nonsense about women and refuse to believe any of the legal, scientific facts or studies about women and abortion?

What is it about the topic of abortion to causes intelligent males to become mental and moral midgets?
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It would be nice if you were to provide some examples of incorrect right-winged dogma about abortion.
 
cabse5 said:
It would be nice if you were to provide some examples of incorrect right-winged dogma about abortion.
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The task is not where to find the examples but which ones to start with first.

Abortions cause breast cancer later amended to abortions have a connection to breast cancer. That one has been mostly dropped, since it's been proven untrue.

Most women feel regret for the rest of their lives for getting an abortion

Women who get abortions get them for convenience and the corollary to that: women are sluts

Women should just carry an unwanted unplanned pregnancy to term then give away the baby. Every male that posts that thinks it's a simple easy solution for women to do and avoids aborting a pregnancy. Only someone who has never been pregnant thinks that's the best solution.

Women have no right to stop a life and the corollary to that one is that the fetuses life is more valuable than the women's life.

The 1.3% of abortions performed late term are also just for the convenience of sluts that suddenly discover they don't want a baby.

Abortion is being for birth control instead of contraceptives.

Abstinence only education and father/daughter chastity rings will keep teens from getting pregnant.

The Bible says abortion is wrong.

A fetus has the same legal standing as a living human being.

A fetus is a human being.

A 1st trimester fetus feels pain and screams when it knows it is being aborted. And we know that because Priests for Life made a video of a fetus screaming.

Women are heartless and don't care about the life growing inside of them.

Women are just a mess of hormones and need to be guided by (choose one)
1. Christian men
2. Christian Pastors
3. God
4. The government
5. their husbands, fathers, uncles, grandfathers


How many more do you want?
 
cabse5 said:
It would be nice if you were to provide some examples of incorrect right-winged dogma about abortion.
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There are good, reasonable and intelligent reasons to regulate legal abortions. None of the above are them.
 
Lursa said:
A few basic examples:

--PP is selling aborted fetal body parts
--Most abortions are for convenience
--abortion is irresponsible
--Most women feel regret for the rest of their lives for getting an abortion
--Innocent babies are torn apart screaming in the womb, in pain
--Most abortions consist of dismemberment
--Democrats want to legalize post-birth abortion :doh
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Added the bold, excellent example from Weaver2. Forgot that one.
 
Everybody is guilty of posting stuff that is untrue or stupid at one time or other. The problem is that anti-abortion advocates just keep posting and posting and posting stuff that is patently untrue even after they've been told and told and told it's not true.

Perhaps they think everyone will get tired, stop posting and their post will be the last one standing so it will look like their lie is a truth about abortion.
 
weaver2 said:
Everybody is guilty of posting stuff that is untrue or stupid at one time or other. The problem is that anti-abortion advocates just keep posting and posting and posting stuff that is patently untrue even after they've been told and told and told it's not true.

Perhaps they think everyone will get tired, stop posting and their post will be the last one standing so it will look like their lie is a truth about abortion.
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Absolutely true and unbelievably common.
 
Lursa said:
A few basic examples:

--PP is selling aborted fetal body parts
--Most abortions are for convenience
--abortion is irresponsible
--Innocent babies are torn apart screaming in the womb, in pain
--Most abortions consist of dismemberment
--Democrats want to legalize post-birth abortion :doh
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The majority of arguments I see posted against abortion really have nothing to do with any (or rather most) of those things. Its much more direct. Abortion is the slaughter of 800,000 unborn children a year. And yes...it is done in the name of convenience.
 
VanceMack said:
The majority of arguments I see posted against abortion really have nothing to do with any (or rather most) of those things. Its much more direct. Abortion is the slaughter of 800,000 unborn children a year. And yes...it is done in the name of convenience.
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I think you make the point that you feel that a woman's rights and responsibilities to her current dependents (partner, kids, elderly, disabled, etc), her obligations and commitments to her employer, community, society, etc, her decisions not to take public assistance, etc are all conveniences. Well, that's up to you...do you consider those things, including your rights, in your life to be conveniences too? If not, then you're a hypocrite. If yes, then I'm sorry you value the important things in life so little.
 
VanceMack said:
The majority of arguments I see posted against abortion really have nothing to do with any (or rather most) of those things. Its much more direct. Abortion is the slaughter of 800,000 unborn children a year. And yes...it is done in the name of convenience.
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Mighty CONVENIENT that YOU will never, ever be pregnant, eh?
 
Lursa said:
A few basic examples:

--PP is selling aborted fetal body parts
--Most abortions are for convenience
--abortion is irresponsible
--Innocent babies are torn apart screaming in the womb, in pain
--Most abortions consist of dismemberment
--Democrats want to legalize post-birth abortion :doh
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I dream of the day there is a post-birth abortion. I would personally pay the OP's mother to abort the mistake/s she brought into the world. I wonder how much she would take? I guess we could get an appraisal of the vital organs for a fair price. Judging from the post, the brain will probably wind up in the dumpster with all those other worthless beings who happened to be an inconvenience.
 
VanceMack said:
The majority of arguments I see posted against abortion really have nothing to do with any (or rather most) of those things. Its much more direct. Abortion is the slaughter of 800,000 unborn children a year. And yes...it is done in the name of convenience.
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I'm curious, how do you know abortions are done in the name of convenience?
 
VanceMack said:
The majority of arguments I see posted against abortion really have nothing to do with any (or rather most) of those things. Its much more direct. Abortion is the slaughter of 800,000 unborn children a year. And yes...it is done in the name of convenience.
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And that's perfectly ok
 
weaver2 said:
I'm curious, how do you know abortions are done in the name of convenience?
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Exactly. I have seen several polls/lists on women's reasons for abortion and have never seen 'convenience' on any of them.

I think they like to interpret things like, "my boyfriend doesnt want a baby" as "I'd rather have a boyfriend" than the more real-life, "if I have this baby my boyfriend will kick us out and we'll have nowhere to live." Or he'll abuse it. You know, practical stuff like a safe place to raise a kid and be able to feed it and not take public assistance if you can avoid it.

Should she start looking for a better boyfriend? Ah, yeah probably. But that doesnt help with her current situation. But hey...living on the street with a newborn is merely an inconvenience to some people.
 
weaver2 said:
Why do conservative males, when talking about abortion, continue to post stuff that simply isn't true, quote known liars, perpetrate old wives nonsense about women and refuse to believe any of the legal, scientific facts or studies about women and abortion?

What is it about the topic of abortion to causes intelligent males to become mental and moral midgets?
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You seem to think that mainstream males are political junkies.

They are not.

Most males could give a crap about abortion.
 
Pro life is the logical logical stand.

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Scrabaholic said:
Mighty CONVENIENT that YOU will never, ever be pregnant, eh?
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True enough...but if I got someone pregnant I wouldn't advocate that the baby be butchered because it would be inconvenient. Id be responsible.

But thats just me.
 
Lursa said:
I think you make the point that you feel that a woman's rights and responsibilities to her current dependents (partner, kids, elderly, disabled, etc), her obligations and commitments to her employer, community, society, etc, her decisions not to take public assistance, etc are all conveniences. Well, that's up to you...do you consider those things, including your rights, in your life to be conveniences too? If not, then you're a hypocrite. If yes, then I'm sorry you value the important things in life so little.
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I made the point that we shouldnt be butchering babies because they are inconvenient. Anything else you added to it is just that bull**** you do to try to mask the uncomfortable reality of what you advocate. Thats a burden you have to bear...not me.
 
weaver2 said:
I'm curious, how do you know abortions are done in the name of convenience?
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Because the converse is the number of abortions committed due to crimes such as rape (tragic, but minuscule in comparison) and in the tragic occasion of risk to the life of the mother...again...a tough and tragic decision...but luckily very uncommon in relation to the 800,000 unborn babies slaughtered every year in this country alone.
 
Well a little devil's advocating here.

Why is it always what the woman wants to do with the unborn? She did not get into that position by herself, suppose the father of that child wanted his offspring to live, where is his right, after all it did not happen without him. So, what if the father agreed to pay for all expenses incurred and when the woman gives birth to the child she did not want, she hands the child to the father who assumes sole responsibility for the child and she waves all her claims to the child she did not want? How many would agree to that?
 
RetiredUSN said:
You seem to think that mainstream males are political junkies.

They are not.

Most males could give a crap about abortion.
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The comment wasn't about mainstream male or political junkies. It was a comment on the men that post on abortion threads. So why are you on this thread?
 
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