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    Re: Most conservative males keep reposting nonsense they know is not true about abortion.

    Quote Originally Posted by weaver2 View Post
    Calling someone's comment a lie when a misunderstanding of the subject was the genesis of the comment is one of the more childish and irresponsible tactics of conservatives. For some inexplicable reason they think it is a clever and effective attempt to denigrate those they disagree with.

    Nobody is fooled by this technique so why do something that makes you look ignorant and dishonest?
    A misunderstanding does not require someone to fabricate someone’s position and then argue against it. That’s the persons choice. And it’s still a lie. I am not calling the misunderstanding itself the lie. Most conservative males keep reposting  nonsense they know is not true about abortion.
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    Re: Most conservative males keep reposting nonsense they know is not true about abortion.

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    ...What counts is taking a moral stance. That's why we have governments. Even if it meant every single woman would decide, in protest, to have an illegal abortion, what counts is that the government has taken the position that abortion is wrong and illegal. Women getting illegal abortions on their own isn't something the government can really do anything about, so then, let it be, i say.
    I disagree. Abortion can be a moral choice. Our government supports Religious Liberty.

    RCRC is unique in the reproductive health, rights and justice movements, because it draws on the moral power of diverse religious communities.

    From the ;Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice :

    Good policy allows people of all religions to follow their own faiths and consciences in their own lives. In reproductive health, rights and justice, we define religious liberty as the right of a woman to make thoughtful decisions in private consultation with her doctor, her family and her faith. The religious beliefs of others should not interfere.

    The Moral Case – Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice
    When it comes to matters of Reproductive health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: Most conservative males keep reposting nonsense they know is not true about abortion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrabaholic View Post
    Minnie does not lie. You obviously cannot provide a quote - I accept your surrender.
    Minnie does lie. I don’t need to quote what you can simply go back and read. You obviously can not take the effort - I accept your surrender.
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    Re: Most conservative males keep reposting nonsense they know is not true about abortion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrabaholic View Post
    A lie is KNOWINGLY making statements that are not true. Like when people say that women abort for "no reason".
    Exactly.
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    Re: Most conservative males keep reposting nonsense they know is not true about abortion.

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    1.)Why would I want to accomplish the same results while endorsing abortion for all? That kind of destroys the point. I don't care what results pro-choice countries have.
    2.) You're endorsing an immoral position.
    3.) I'm glad pro choicers like their laws, but if Poland can accomplish the same things(and by all stats, are much more successful, their abortion rate is far below the US average), and have similar/better results, then they are a superior position both morally and statistically.
    1.) thank you for exposing your hypocrisy then LOL
    2.) based on your feelings and nothign else. Morals are subjective and millions of people think violating women's rights and treating them as lessers is immoral also. So why are your subjective morals better than theirs and vice versa?
    The difference is they are OK with you exercising your morals while you want to force your orals on them. No thanks, america will be sticking with rights and freedoms
    3.) again thats just your feelings and ZERO facts supporting your claim of "superior position both morally and statistically." while ignoring womans rights . .wont be happening in america just like the majority of first world countries with rights and freedoms. You are free to move to poland though.

    Rights and freedoms > than your feelings

    Ill ask you AGAIN
    why do you want something that is less in the middle and something that violates women's current rights?
    why do you want to change a system that allows both sides to practice their morals to a system that forces YOUR morals on others?
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    Re: Most conservative males keep reposting nonsense they know is not true about abortion.

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    Abortion is illegal in germany too, they just exempt the mother from liability....probably why their abortion rate is lower, despite carrying the burden for 2 countries lol
    Here is a more accurate representation.

    5 things to know about abortion in Germany - The Local

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    Re: Most conservative males keep reposting nonsense they know is not true about abortion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    Minnie does lie. I don’t need to quote what you can simply go back ait.

    nd read. You obviously can not take the effort - I accept your surrender.
    Yes please quote. I cannot find where she has lied. And when she does find out she is wrong, she acknowledges and corrects.

    But yes, if you are going to call somebody a liar....show the quotes.

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    Re: Most conservative males keep reposting nonsense they know is not true about abortion.

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    Re: Most conservative males keep reposting nonsense they know is not true about abortion.

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    well don't tell me that. i already know.
    But clearly you have no clue where your rights end, which in turn supports my earlier assertion.
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    Re: Most conservative males keep reposting nonsense they know is not true about abortion.

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    Where are the pro choicers who want government to condemn abortion.
    It is not governments role to make such judgements.
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