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    Re: [W:155] Can someone support women’s rights and oppose abortion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crusader13 View Post
    Case in point - constant efforts to force religious organisations to cater events that go against their beliefs, trying to make "hate speech" (which they can't even define) a thing, and trying to take away guns from law abiding citizens.
    That's a whole different discussion and comes under different topic heading.

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    Re: [W:155] Can someone support women’s rights and oppose abortion?

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    What kind of cold-hearted B**** are you? How can you say that? Even if I had no decision I could still be hurt (harmed), this is the exact kind of thing that gives all the “Pro-Choice” group a bad name!!
    You're pathetic...no, beyond pathetic. No wonder your "girl friend" wanted to abort. Obviously, you were of no help or support and no doubt didn't pay for the abortion. I hope she dumped your pathetic ass in the process.
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    Re: [W:155] Can someone support women’s rights and oppose abortion?

    In other words, they were happy to provide the product or service to anyone without discrimination,......
    .....as long as they could control the message or decoration on the cake, according to your false version of the story, right?

    In fact, the couple never got past the point when the baker (who is a consummate fake-christian hypocrite who's ignorant of his own religion is also typical as I'll demonstrate next) told them he would not sell them any cake indicating they were two men getting married.

    Here's a passage from the SCOTUS ruling that ruled in that ****head baker's favor:
    Jack Phillips is an expert baker who has owned and operated the shop for 24 years. Phillips is a devout Christian. He has explained that his “main goal in life is to be obedient to” Jesus Christ and Christ’s “teachings in all aspects of his life.” And he seeks to “honor God through his work at Masterpiece Cakeshop.”
    One of Phillips’ religious beliefs is that “God’s intention for mar- riage from the beginning of history is that it is and should be the union of one man and one woman.” Id., at 149. To Phillips, creating a wedding cake for a same-sex wedding would be equivalent to participating in a celebration that is contrary to his own most deeply held beliefs.
    If one believes the gospels reflect the words and teachings of Jesus Christ, Jack Phillips would seem to be completely ignorant or deliberately ignoring. There is nothing in those gospels that even mentions homosexuality much less instructs the followers of Jesus to discriminate (read: hate) them. In fact, those teachings were exactly the opposite of what Jack Phillips "obeys," which, in reality, are his own personal bigotry covered with a patina of sanctimonious pseudo-Christian prating--a trait common to rightwing fundamentalism god-botherers in general.

    Leaving all that aside, Jack Phillips's bluff has been called more recently with this case:
    Masterpiece Cakeshop Faces Yet Another Legal Fight over Cakes – Reason.com

    In short, without stating so, a trans-gender woman ordered a cake with pink interior and blue frosting. No problem, says pious Jack. Then the woman mentioned that the cake held special importance as being symbolic of her gender change. Pious Jack then refused to make it. No message was to be on the cake. So, now his bigotry strayed even further from marriage to gender identity matters and even further from having to do with anything Jesus ever taught. No, good-ole Pious Jack seems to make up his bigotry, just as his religion, on the fly as needed. He's a nasty PoS, he is.
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    Re: [W:155] Can someone support women’s rights and oppose abortion?

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    If one believes the gospels reflect the words and teachings of Jesus Christ, Jack Phillips would seem to be completely ignorant or deliberately ignoring. There is nothing in those gospels that even mentions homosexuality much less instructs the followers of Jesus to discriminate (read: hate) them.

    personal bigotry covered with a patina of sanctimonious pseudo-Christian prating--a trait common to rightwing fundamentalism god-botherers in general.
    "personal bigotry covered with a patina of sanctimonious pseudo-Christian prating--a trait common to rightwing fundamentalism god-botherers". I especially like the term 'god-botherers' !!!!

    Unfortunately Jack Phillips is using the phrase from Mark 5:17"“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." And the Old Testament law does say homosexuality is an abomination in the eyes of the Lord. Unlike most of the commandments even those outside of the Decalogue it doesn't carry the punishment of stoning to death. In fact it doesn't list any punishment for homosexuality, just that it is an abomination.

    So when Jack Phillips refuses to bake a cake for a homosexual wedding and quotes the biblical reason for doing so, he is correct, even though Jesus never mentioned anything about homosexuality. There is speculation that the Essene sect of Judaism to which Jesus may have belonged, may have been a gathering of homosexual.

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    Re: [W:155] Can someone support women’s rights and oppose abortion?

    Quote Originally Posted by weaver2 View Post
    "personal bigotry covered with a patina of sanctimonious pseudo-Christian prating--a trait common to rightwing fundamentalism god-botherers". I especially like the term 'god-botherers' !!!!

    Unfortunately Jack Phillips is using the phrase from Mark 5:17"“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." And the Old Testament law does say homosexuality is an abomination in the eyes of the Lord. Unlike most of the commandments even those outside of the Decalogue it doesn't carry the punishment of stoning to death. In fact it doesn't list any punishment for homosexuality, just that it is an abomination.

    So when Jack Phillips refuses to bake a cake for a homosexual wedding and quotes the biblical reason for doing so, he is correct, even though Jesus never mentioned anything about homosexuality. There is speculation that the Essene sect of Judaism to which Jesus may have belonged, may have been a gathering of homosexual.

    On the other hand the world of love and caring that Jesus seemed to be envisioning was diametrically opposed to Jack Philip's world where he'd likely be at the head of the line flogging, denigrating and, banning.

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