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If personal morality take precedence over the Constitution we get bad law .

AGENT J said:
booom!!...those morals are factually subjective...
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Boom all right. The word "moral" in my sentence is an adjective modifying a noun.
The word "morals" in your sentence is a plural noun used as the subject of the sentence.
What do you mean by "morals"?
 
Angel said:
Boom all right. The word "moral" in my sentence is an adjective modifying a noun.
The word "morals" in your sentence is a plural noun used as the subject of the sentence.
What do you mean by "morals"?
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boom!! aaaaand another delicious dodge!!!! SO awesome!!




right here:
Angel said:
Abortion must remain legal on moral grounds, but abortion culture must be denounced, also on moral grounds.
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those morals are factually subjective


ill ask you AGAIN
factual define "abortion" culture


anybody wanna go triple or nothing??
 
AGENT J said:
boom!!
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All right, you're back to the "Buzz, buzz" category. For one second I thought you'd show some good faith and actually discuss something. How's the weather in Pittsburgh?
 
Angel said:
All right, you're back to the "Buzz, buzz" category. For one second I thought you'd show some good faith and actually discuss something. How's the weather in Pittsburgh?
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and the dodge train continues!
ill ask you AGAIN
factual define "abortion" culture

we are waiting, thanks!
 
Scrabaholic said:
What exactly is "abortion culture"?
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Angel said:
An unexamined way of life.
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So then one can be pro-life and just not have 'examined' their way of life? Or did they? I mean, there's lots of things to 'examine in life.' :roll:

OK, come on, be serious...I'm for raising livestock for food, I chose against vegetarianism...is that a "carnivorous culture?" Have I "examined my way" of life based on meat? :lamo

At least be honest and admit you have no legitimate answer :roll:
 
Scrabaholic said:
What?????
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should read "Still examining your navel"

refers to

Omphaloskepsis or navel-gazing is contemplation of one's navel as an aid to meditation.
The word derives from the Ancient Greek words ὀμφᾰλός (omphalós, lit. 'navel') and σκέψῐς (sképsis, lit. 'viewing, examination, speculation').
The monks of Mount Athos, Greece, were described as Omphalopsychians by J.G. Minningen, writing in the 1830s, who says they "...pretended or fancied that they experienced celestial joys when gazing on their umbilical region, in converse with the Deity".
However, phrases such as "contemplating one's navel" or "navel-gazing" are frequently used, usually in jocular fashion, to refer to self-absorbed pursuits.

(from Wikipedia)
 
Scrabaholic said:
What exactly is "abortion culture"?
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Angel said:
An unexamined way of life.
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Whereas philosophy culture is taking up seats at a coffee shop while stiffing the waitress on tips as the poor worker wonders how she is going to pay for rent when people take up seats for hours pondering the meaning of life rather than ordering stuff so the waitress can be paid.
 
year2late said:
Whereas philosophy culture is taking up seats at a coffee shop while stiffing the waitress on tips as the poor worker wonders how she is going to pay for rent when people take up seats for hours pondering the meaning of life rather than ordering stuff so the waitress can be paid.
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:lamo
 
Angel said:
An unexamined way of life.
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Men who's idea of an examined life is pronouncing decisions about women's reproductive lives are just a little bit creepy. Wondering now what they do for recreational web surfing.
 
weaver2 said:
High numbers of abortions in the US are a social problem today.
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It would probably be less of a problem if it weren't for all the bible thumpers trying their hardest to reduce the use of birth control.
 
Tlrmln said:
It would probably be less of a problem if it weren't for all the bible thumpers trying their hardest to reduce the use of birth control.
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Which "bible thumpers" oppose birth control?
 
nota bene said:
Which "bible thumpers" oppose birth control?
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While I will not say "Bible Thumpers"..there have been many who oppose various forms of birth control because they cause them "abortofacient" and God has entered into the conversation.

If we are going bigger picture Hobby Lobby and it's objections to "abortofacient" forms of birth control. And of course Catholics and objection to birth control.

This is before we get to the slut shaming for wanting birth control(it would be interesting if there was stud shaming).
 
Angel said:
An way of life left unexamined philosophically.
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Your claim only stands if they came to the wrong conclusion in examination.

You have not remotely proved how or even if they are wrong. Care to try?
 
year2late said:
Whereas philosophy culture is taking up seats at a coffee shop while stiffing the waitress on tips as the poor worker wonders how she is going to pay for rent when people take up seats for hours pondering the meaning of life rather than ordering stuff so the waitress can be paid.
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Making fun of that of which one is incapable is an old and very human coping measure.
 
weaver2 said:
Men who's idea of an examined life is pronouncing decisions about women's reproductive lives are just a little bit creepy. Wondering now what they do for recreational web surfing.
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People sold on taking human life without the deepest critical second thought are worse than "just a little bit creepy."
 
Angel said:
People sold on taking human life without the deepest critical second thought are worse than "just a little bit creepy."
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We're posting in an abortion discussion forum...what does that have to do with abortion? Where have you seen that demonstrated? Please provide some proof for you claim.

Then I'll be happy to post a myriad of posts from this forum proving you wrong.
 
Lursa said:
...Then I'll be happy to post a myriad of posts from this forum proving you wrong.
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Anyone acquainted with your posts here at DP knows that you are indeed a legend in your own mind.
 
Angel said:
People sold on taking human life without the deepest critical second thought are worse than "just a little bit creepy."
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You haven't a clue how deep or how critical the thoughts are in a woman's mind as she faces an abortion that's the best choice for her family and herself. It's incredibly arrogant to decide you know how women think about something you will never have to experience.

And the next fake philosophical post will be, "It's arrogant beyond belief to take a human life without deep and critical thinking on the part of women".


It is so helpful that you, from you vast experience in such matters, can tell women what they should be doing, feeling and thinking about pregnancy and how your world view is that abortion is not good for your culture.
 
weaver2 said:
You haven't a clue how deep or how critical the thoughts are in a woman's mind as she faces an abortion that's the best choice for her family and herself. It's incredibly arrogant to decide you know how women think about something you will never have to experience.

And the next fake philosophical post will be, "It's arrogant beyond belief to take a human life without deep and critical thinking on the part of women".


It is so helpful that you, from you vast experience in such matters, can tell women what they should be doing, feeling and thinking about pregnancy and how your world view is that abortion is not good for your culture.
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Ending a human life is the most serious action anyone can take. You stick with your dime-store psychology and comic-book philosophy and your political talking points, and leave the reasoning to those who can do it, yes?
 
weaver2 said:
High numbers of abortions in the US are a social problem today. Alcoholism was a social problem in the late 19, early 20th century. In 1919 those morally opposed to drinking, passed the 18th Amendment, drove alcohol underground, popularized illegal drinking and made the problem worse.

Social problems are solved by finding and addressing the cause not by criminalizing an activity. Banning abortion ignores the root cause, drives it underground where it is unregulated and creates serious health and mortality problems.

Making abortion illegal because of one groups personal morality is unconstitutional and makes bad law.

Morality is not a substitute for intelligent law.
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I will only say a couple things.
I agree that we need intelligent law on the books.
Banning abortion does not solve the root cause. I agree with this.
And really that's what we need to talk about. The root cause is the crucial debate of our time.
In my opinion its a matter of sexual promiscuity - and I guess this is a moral question in and of itself.
But can we agree that sexual promiscuity is a large contributing factor to the # of abortions we are seeing today?
 
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