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For every Steve Jobs a Hitler is Destroyed by Abortion? Abortions impact on Society?

Iron_Merc said:
Myth? Gee let me think about that for a second... everyone is evil! Sin nature, look it up
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LMAO holy meltdown and sweet irony batman


once again

YOU claimed it was a myth but YOU have no facts to support YOUR claim

english and facts defeat you again
 
Jesse Booth said:
Do you have any evidence of that besides your millennia-old fiction novels?
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Do I really have to do everything you liberals? wow

o·rig·i·nal sin

the tendency to sin innate in all human beings, held to be inherited from Adam in consequence of the Fall. The concept of original sin was developed in the writings of St. Augustine.
 
Iron_Merc said:
Do I really have to do everything you liberals? wow

o·rig·i·nal sin

the tendency to sin innate in all human beings, held to be inherited from Adam in consequence of the Fall. The concept of original sin was developed in the writings of St. Augustine.
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So it's fan fiction based on your millennia-old fiction novels?
 
AGENT J said:
LMAO holy meltdown and sweet irony batman


once again

YOU claimed it was a myth but YOU have no facts to support YOUR claim

english and facts defeat you again
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You must have been held back...

TWO WORDS

SIN

NATURE
 
Jesse Booth said:
So it's fan fiction based on your millennia-old fiction novels?
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You are just assuming its fiction. Yeah, for a liberal that sounds about right. Be sure to NOT do any research into the term.

That way you can keep calling it fiction to feed your delusions.
 
Iron_Merc said:
You must have been held back...

TWO WORDS

SIN

NATURE
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and the posted meltdown continues

two words

ZERO FACTS

two more words

TRY AGAIN
 
AGENT J said:
LMAO holy meltdown and sweet irony batman


once again

YOU claimed it was a myth but YOU have no facts to support YOUR claim

english and facts defeat you again
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WE GOT A grammar Nazi, I kinda had you pegged as one seeing has how you post the same boilerplate riddle with mistakes ALL THE TIME

DEBUNK THIS ONE

ORIGINAL SIN

So its YOU THAT FAILED BETTER LUCK NEXT TIME
 
AGENT J said:
and the posted meltdown continues

two words

ZERO FACTS

two more words

TRY AGAIN
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Original Sin
the tendency to sin innate in all human beings, held to be inherited from Adam in consequence of the Fall. The concept of original sin was developed in the writings of St. Augustine.

Alternatively, you can try to find a place in the dictionary that talks about sin being a 50/50 split... if you dare! LOL SO MUCH FAIL HERE
 
Iron_Merc said:
WE GOT A grammar Nazi, I kinda had you pegged as one seeing has how you post the same boilerplate riddle with mistakes ALL THE TIME

DEBUNK THIS ONE

ORIGINAL SIN

So its YOU THAT FAILED BETTER LUCK NEXT TIME
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LMAO so many fails and lies in your posts i love it!
nothing you posted changes the fact you have nothign to support your claim that it was a myth . . nothing

if you disagree then by all means provided even more entertainment for us and post ONE fact that makes it a myth . . one. . . ready . . go!
 
AGENT J said:
LMAO so much fail in your posts i love it!
nothing you posted changes the fact you have nothign to support your claim that it was a myth . . nothing

if you disagree then by all means provided even more entertainment for us and post ONE fact that makes it a myth . . one. . . ready . . go!
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SERIOUSLY? THATS YOUR REBUTTAL? DO YOU JUST PRETEND TO WIN DEBATES IN YOUR HEAD?

BECAUSE YOU CERTAINLY DONT WIN THEM HERE


I will say it again
Original sin / sin nature
the tendency to sin innate in all human beings, held to be inherited from Adam in consequence of the Fall. The concept of original sin was developed in the writings of St. Augustine.
 
Iron_Merc said:
You are just assuming its fiction. Yeah, for a liberal that sounds about right. Be sure to NOT do any research into the term.

That way you can keep calling it fiction to feed your delusions.
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It's objectively fiction. It cites numbers and figures for death tolls in battles that were greater than the number of people living in a given region at the time, like when the Israelites supposedly killed one million Ethiopians in a battle. It's ridiculous boasts and preening, from a bronze age civilization that worshipped a fictional despot with unrealistic standards, and you have no evidence beyond your own propaganda book that any of the Yahweh nonsense is true.
 
Iron_Merc said:
Original Sin
the tendency to sin innate in all human beings, held to be inherited from Adam in consequence of the Fall. The concept of original sin was developed in the writings of St. Augustine.

Alternatively, you can try to find a place in the dictionary that talks about sin being a 50/50 split... if you dare! LOL SO MUCH FAIL HERE
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It's a nonsense interpretation of nonsense, which was only concocted by a man who was born three centuries after the death of the man his religion was based around.
 
Jesse Booth said:
It's a nonsense interpretation of nonsense, which was only concocted by a man who was born three centuries after the death of the man his religion was based around.
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That as deep... almost as deep as your hollow shell that holds nothing but bleak blackness

DESPICABLE treatment of innocent children... sociopath much?
 
Iron_Merc said:
I found this to be a relatively bizarre answer to a question. I'm hoping you pro-choice people can unpack and explain this argument for me (in detail).

The initial question was: Does abortion have an impact on society?

My response was basically this:

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In demonstrating the potential ramifications of losing a person like Steve Jobs to abortion. We probably wouldn't be walking around with iPhones or apple laptops. This was posted:

In response, a person who shall remain nameless attempted to justify the impact of abortion on society by claiming that everything evens out. That it is a mathematical "probability" basically 50/50 spit of evil/good people. The example she gave was (and I quote) "For every Steve Jobs a Hitler is destroyed by abortion"

Now there are multiple problems with this theory.
First, how can you prove this to be true? (can this be confirmed?)
Second, how do you prevent a Hitler from being born? (no way to know at birth whos good or whos bad)
Third, how can you prove that everything evens out in the end? Do you have actual mathematical studies that you can produce to support this very bizarre assertion?

Try as I may, I cannot seem to get clarification on these major points of contention. I would like an honest discussion to ensue so we can iron out these so called wrinkles in this theory. That's all I'm asking for. A little affirmation that this theory can actually hold water If we cannot come up with anything meaningful, I will be forced to invalidate the entire argument and relegate it to the fiction section.


I wanted to pay respect to Steve so I've included a caption here from the Apple website. This would have never happened if Steve was aborted. Keep that in mind.


Over a million people from all over the world have shared their memories, thoughts, and feelings about Steve. One thing they all have in common — from personal friends to colleagues to owners of Apple products — is how they’ve been touched by his passion and creativity. You can view some of these messages below.
And share your own at rememberingsteve@apple.com



*PS I Do this because EVERY life matters. That is the meat and potatoes of my mission. One life lost to abortion is too many.
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Setting aside the difficulty of determining whether the baby will be a Steve Jobs or a Hitler, we can make a reasonable quantification just by examining history. For every Hitler or other tyrant, or even every outlaw of any designation, we can find dozens, even hundreds or thousands in history of noble, brave, industrious, innovation, creative, compassionate, benevolent law abiding people who have contributed to good in the world instead of evil.

So mathematically, considering that an estimated 40 to 60 million abortions occur world wide, 6.5 ,million of those in the USA alone, every year, the odds are overwhelming that far more Steve Jobs, Einsteins, Henry Fords, Mother Theresas, Jonas Salks, etc. etc. etc. are aborted than Hitlers or other nefarious types.
 
Iron_Merc said:
Original Sin
the tendency to sin innate in all human beings, held to be inherited from Adam in consequence of the Fall. The concept of original sin was developed in the writings of St. Augustine.

Alternatively, you can try to find a place in the dictionary that talks about sin being a 50/50 split... if you dare! LOL SO MUCH FAIL HERE
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If you picked the wrong religion, you 'may' go to a hell.......and you will never know your fate until after you die, if at all.
 
Iron_Merc said:
SERIOUSLY? THATS YOUR REBUTTAL? DO YOU JUST PRETEND TO WIN DEBATES IN YOUR HEAD?

BECAUSE YOU CERTAINLY DONT WIN THEM HERE


I will say it again
Original sin / sin nature
the tendency to sin innate in all human beings, held to be inherited from Adam in consequence of the Fall. The concept of original sin was developed in the writings of St. Augustine.
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These meltdowns you post are awesome but they dont matter to facts and they are just great entertainment for the rest of us. post your meltdown 500 times if you want its not a fact,its meaningless and just further proves me right that you factually cant support your claim.

heres your claim
Iron_Merc said:
Most people are generally good, but all people are inherently evil. We are all born with original sin. This so called 50/50 ratio is a myth.
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Ill ask you AGAIN
please post one fact that makes the claim a myth . . .one, thanks!
 
I want everyone to take a good hard look at the posts since my initial one that set off the firestorm

Nothing of any merit... no major rebuttal of the actual content of my theory.... still waiting for that

If you want to win an argument why don't you try to rebuff my argument instead of cherry picking?

I think you just want to get as far away from that post because you know its true.
 
AGENT J said:
These meltdowns you post are awesome but they dont matter to facts and they are just great entertainment for the rest of us. post your meltdown 500 times if you want its not a fact,its meaningless and just further proves me right that you factually cant support your claim.

heres your claim


Ill ask you AGAIN
please post one fact that makes the claim a myth . . .one, thanks!
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Sin Nature / Original Sin

the tendency to sin innate in all human beings, held to be inherited from Adam in consequence of the Fall. The concept of original sin was developed in the writings of St. Augustine.
 
Alternatively, you could try proving the 50/50 ratio of good / evil... if you dare..

Good luck finding that in the dictionary....
 
Iron_Merc said:
I want everyone to take a good hard look at the posts since my initial one that set off the firestorm

Nothing of any merit... no major rebuttal of the actual content of my theory.... still waiting for that

If you want to win an argument why don't you try to rebuff my argument instead of cherry picking?

I think you just want to get as far away from that post because you know its true.
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:2rofll:
 
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