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Planned Parenthood has been building a secret abortion "mega-clinic" in Illinois

Iron_Merc said:
Planned Parenthood is a very corrupt, very evil organization. Now we have a little window into how they operate. Say one thing, do something completely different. Yeah, that sounds about right.
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OK, you believe PP is corrupt, very evil, says one thing and does another. How is this an argument against legal abortion?
 
prometeus said:
Its not a business model it is a facility that will provide services and it would not be necessary to keep it secret if variouos assholes could stay the hell out of other people's lives and mind their own.
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They do cancer screening for poorer women.

Must shut them down.
 
Lursa said:
Well I see several other people already made this answer very very clear. For safety and financial reasons due to the actions of pro-lifers...including violence.

Odd that you would not want to see construction workers, administrators, medical staff, kept safe from harm. Or that a non-profit organization not make the best financial decisions in order to save $ on security and delays so it can be better spent providing reproductive services and counseling to women.



And...you have yet to provide any examples that refute my view.

Yup
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Equally odd that you think there is a certainty of danger in the building of a clinic. The PP clinic in my community was built without issue, active without issue, protested against every single day for over 15 years, and closed without issue.
 
nota bene said:
Equally odd that you think there is a certainty of danger in the building of a clinic. The PP clinic in my community was built without issue, active without issue, protested against every single day for over 15 years, and closed without issue.
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I saw the issue less of one of violence and more of one where those contracted with helping build or supply building materials were being targeted with fake negative publicity and endangering their survival as a business and employer.
 
nota bene said:
Equally odd that you think there is a certainty of danger in the building of a clinic. The PP clinic in my community was built without issue, active without issue, protested against every single day for over 15 years, and closed without issue.
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Several here have posted regarding past violence.

Are you denying there is a safety concern?
 
Lursa said:
Several here have posted regarding past violence.

Are you denying there is a safety concern?
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Even Abby Johnson had reported a series of violent threats against her and her clinic.:lamo
 
CaughtInThe said:
They do cancer screening for poorer women.

Must shut them down.
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They also treat precancerous lesions that are detected because off those screenings....damn them..they are trying to put oncologists out of business!
 
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CaughtInThe said:
They do cancer screening for poorer women.

Must shut them down.
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people are so factually uneducated and or biased about Planned Parenthood they have no real clue about what they do. They just meltdown and hate irrationally. Theres about 33 PPs in PA and only about 11 do abortions . . . .so 66% in my state dont even have anything to do with abortion thats how monumentally stupid some people are in their witch hunt to attack PP, its sad but also pretty funny at the same time.
 
AGENT J said:
people are so factually uneducated and or biased about Planned Parenthood they have no real clue about what they do. They just meltdown and hate irrationally. Theres about 33 PPs in PA and only about 11 do abortions . . . .so 66% in my state dont even have anything to do with abortion thats how monumentally stupid some people are in their witch hunt to attack PP, its sad but also pretty funny at the same time.
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But Rush and Sean teach people to hate an organization that prevents death from cancer for poorer humans.

Do you guys realize that Rush Limbaugh says what he says to be rich?
 
CaughtInThe said:
But Rush and Sean teach people to hate an organization that prevents death from cancer for poorer humans.

Do you guys realize that Rush Limbaugh says what he says to be rich?
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LMAO nice!!!

anybody that takes either of those two seriously is part of the problem with politics
 
AGENT J said:
people are so factually uneducated and or biased about Planned Parenthood they have no real clue about what they do. They just meltdown and hate irrationally. Theres about 33 PPs in PA and only about 11 do abortions . . . .so 66% in my state dont even have anything to do with abortion thats how monumentally stupid some people are in their witch hunt to attack PP, its sad but also pretty funny at the same time.
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duh, where else are you going to be able to have mega abortions but at a mega clinic?
 
tacomancer said:
duh, where else are you going to be able to have mega abortions but at a mega clinic?
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i wonder if a mega abortion is different from a regular abortion .. . .

maybe only inhumans can go there

i know there was a magaman was there ever a megawoman? maybe its for them
 
AGENT J said:
LMAO nice!!!

anybody that takes either of those two seriously is part of the problem with politics
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Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity are like the Pope and Archbishop of the Republican party.

Could they have picked two more horrible humans?
 
CaughtInThe said:
1.) Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity are like the Pope and Archbishop of the Republican party.
2.) Could they have picked two more horrible humans?
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1.) sorry i cant go that far. I cant group all republicans together like that i know plenty that hate rush and hannity. They cant stand them and are embarrassed that people think they are representative of them.

but if we are talking nutters and extremists . . yes ive seen many people (on line) that are retarded enough to take them seriously but oddly enough only maybe one or two in real life

2.) they most certainly do seem to be horrible human beings
 
nota bene said:
From CBS News:

After over a year of secret construction, Planned Parenthood announced its newest abortion facility on Wednesday: an 18,000-square-foot mega-clinic in southern Illinois. The new location is just 13 miles away from Missouri's last remaining abortion clinic, a facility in St. Louis fighting to keep its license.

Since August 2018, Planned Parenthood has used a shell company to construct the facility, leaving no public trace that the former medical office would become one of the largest abortion clinics in the country. CBS News first visited the site in August, while it was still being built.

Colleen McNicholas, the chief medical officer of Planned Parenthood of the St. Louis Region and Southwest Missouri, said the facility was built in secret to avoid protestors and delays. Other Planned Parenthood projects had run into problems once the public realized the construction was for an abortion provider. In one instance, a communications company had refused to install telephone and data lines; in another, a cabinet maker never delivered an order, McNicholas said. In Birmingham, Alabama, protestors targeted Planned Parenthood's suppliers, flooding their social media accounts with fake negative reviews. Planned Parenthood to open "mega-clinic" in Illinois, a response to restrictive abortion laws in Missouri [Exclusive] - CBS News

Secret construction? A shell company? Why, how very furtive and crafty of PP. What a business model. :roll:
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Whatever it takes to preserve a woman's right to choice.
 
Iron_Merc said:
Planned Parenthood is a very corrupt, very evil organization. Now we have a little window into how they operate. Say one thing, do something completely different. Yeah, that sounds about right.
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The question is still unanswered. Again, why does your belief that PP is corrupt and evil make legal abortion wrong?
 
nota bene said:
From CBS News:

After over a year of secret construction, Planned Parenthood announced its newest abortion facility on Wednesday: an 18,000-square-foot mega-clinic in southern Illinois. The new location is just 13 miles away from Missouri's last remaining abortion clinic, a facility in St. Louis fighting to keep its license.

Since August 2018, Planned Parenthood has used a shell company to construct the facility, leaving no public trace that the former medical office would become one of the largest abortion clinics in the country. CBS News first visited the site in August, while it was still being built.

Colleen McNicholas, the chief medical officer of Planned Parenthood of the St. Louis Region and Southwest Missouri, said the facility was built in secret to avoid protestors and delays. Other Planned Parenthood projects had run into problems once the public realized the construction was for an abortion provider. In one instance, a communications company had refused to install telephone and data lines; in another, a cabinet maker never delivered an order, McNicholas said. In Birmingham, Alabama, protestors targeted Planned Parenthood's suppliers, flooding their social media accounts with fake negative reviews. Planned Parenthood to open "mega-clinic" in Illinois, a response to restrictive abortion laws in Missouri [Exclusive] - CBS News

Secret construction? A shell company? Why, how very furtive and crafty of PP. What a business model. :roll:
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I find it funny that in some articles I read on this they make like it is an abortion clinic period. From what I have read ....it really looks like most other PP - multipurpose. Annual exams...cancer screenings....hiv/std testing .. counseling.... prevention of abortion with birth control etc. And yes, abortion.
 
Iron_Merc said:
Yes, I see support for planned parenthood and I think OMG this abortion industry is more like a death cult than a so called "womens health" center.
How can people still support planned parenthood knowing they sell baby parts and harvest organs, and then profits of the sale? That is just horribly wrong. There are no words to describe that level of evil.

Once again, liberal have managed to turn life liberty and the pursuit of happiness into death oppression and the pursuit of sadness. I wish they would get the drift. That killing babies is not the answer to todays problems.
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hyperbole much, hint, not every religion "thinks" like christer goyim do. If you are against abortion don't have one ..simple


Jewish law does not share the belief common among abortion opponents that life begins at conception, nor does it legally consider the fetus to be a full person deserving of protections equal those accorded to human beings. In Jewish law, a fetus attains the status of a full person only at birth. Sources in the Talmud indicate that prior to 40 days of gestation, the fetus has an even more limited legal status, with one Talmudic authority (Yevamot 69b) asserting that prior to 40 days the fetus is “mere water.” Elsewhere, the Talmud indicates that the ancient rabbis regarded a fetus as part of its mother throughout the pregnancy, dependent fully on her for its life — a view that echoes the position that women should be free to make decisions concerning their own bodies.
 
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year2late said:
I find it funny that in some articles I read on this they make like it is an abortion clinic period. From what I have read ....it really looks like most other PP - multipurpose. Annual exams...cancer screenings....hiv/std testing .. counseling.... prevention of abortion with birth control etc. And yes, abortion.
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Given that annual exams and etc. are offered by other clinics, isn't the building in secret because of the abortions?
 
nota bene said:
Given that annual exams and etc. are offered by other clinics, isn't the building in secret because of the abortions?
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nope its in secret because of nutters and their hilarious witch hunt for PP. That's proven by the protesting and attacks on PP facilities even when that facility does NOT offer abortions and the lack of of attacks at other places that do. :shrug:

So sad they have to protect themselves from extreme nutter criminals that may even harm people and or damage property in some cases
 
nota bene said:
Given that annual exams and etc. are offered by other clinics, isn't the building in secret because of the abortions?
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IMO it is because of the ignorance of the people that believe wholeheartedly that PP is promoting abortion and is "in the abortion business." And that willfully choose to ignore the rest of the services that they provide.
 
1. I am pleased to learn this news.

2. I am sure that the new facility will have world-class standards to accommodate women who wish to terminate unwanted births.

3. Some states in that region make it almost impossible for women to get an abortion, so hopefully this new facility will help those women in that regard.

4. I agree with people who say that children who were unwanted by their parents often turn out to be very angry individuals who cause many social problems.

5. I hope that abortion continues to be legal, although its legality may be in question in coming decades. Some people feel that many future Americans will be very conservative when it comes to social issues.
 
nota bene said:
Given that annual exams and etc. are offered by other clinics, isn't the building in secret because of the abortions?
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It may have been kept secret because prolife advocates are willing to ruin the reputation of any contractors or suppliers associated with the project because of abortions.....but the reality remains that most services that will be performed under that roof will likely not be abortion. In fact likely most will be efforts to prevent abortion through contraception.

YMMV
 
Iron_Merc said:
Yes, I see support for planned parenthood and I think OMG this abortion industry is more like a death cult than a so called "womens health" center.
How can people still support planned parenthood knowing they sell baby parts and harvest organs, and then profits of the sale? That is just horribly wrong. There are no words to describe that level of evil.

Once again, liberal have managed to turn life liberty and the pursuit of happiness into death oppression and the pursuit of sadness. I wish they would get the drift. That killing babies is not the answer to todays problems.
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Why should 175 million women have to become second class citizens because you have a wild and sick imagination? You don't believe in rights so cut the crap about the constitution.
 
nota bene said:
From CBS News:

After over a year of secret construction, Planned Parenthood announced its newest abortion facility on Wednesday: an 18,000-square-foot mega-clinic in southern Illinois. The new location is just 13 miles away from Missouri's last remaining abortion clinic, a facility in St. Louis fighting to keep its license.

Since August 2018, Planned Parenthood has used a shell company to construct the facility, leaving no public trace that the former medical office would become one of the largest abortion clinics in the country. CBS News first visited the site in August, while it was still being built.

Colleen McNicholas, the chief medical officer of Planned Parenthood of the St. Louis Region and Southwest Missouri, said the facility was built in secret to avoid protestors and delays. Other Planned Parenthood projects had run into problems once the public realized the construction was for an abortion provider. In one instance, a communications company had refused to install telephone and data lines; in another, a cabinet maker never delivered an order, McNicholas said. In Birmingham, Alabama, protestors targeted Planned Parenthood's suppliers, flooding their social media accounts with fake negative reviews. Planned Parenthood to open "mega-clinic" in Illinois, a response to restrictive abortion laws in Missouri [Exclusive] - CBS News

Secret construction? A shell company? Why, how very furtive and crafty of PP. What a business model. :roll:
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It's an excellent business model. The location, the planning, the construction, the funding, the legalities....all very well coordinated and without delay. So what's the problem, nota bene?
 
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