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[W:344:1201]License to Kill

I'm getting ready to start a thread on this; Ill alert you. Don't look to dictionary entries to do philosophy.

Bolded ins one of your many dishonest ploys where you play with the meanings of words
Also you dont actually do anything that could be considered philosophy
 
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The last clause is the important one. The first only expresses doubt of my existence.
No, the most important clause is the first since it removes certainty from all the claims.
 
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Nobody says it isn't human. Using an acronym does not dehumanize any more than using the separate words is. It saves typing, that is all. Some of us live w/ chronic pain in our hands and saving keystrokes helps. Please do feel free to ignore it, whining about it just detracts from the topic of the thread.
Using the term "Zef" makes the human life inside the womb sound like something out of a 50s horror flick. It's like calling it the Blob. The term dehumanizes the gestating human life involved in pregnancy. And our exchanges on this term are squarely on topic, as "Zef" epitomizes the semantic subterfuges used by abortion apologists to sell abortion to the masses.
 
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1.) Using the term "Zef" makes the human life inside the womb sound like something out of a 50s horror flick.
2.) It's like calling it the Blob.
3.) The term dehumanizes the gestating human life involved in pregnancy. And our exchanges on this term are squarely on topic, as "Zef" epitomizes the semantic subterfuges used by abortion apologists to sell abortion to the masses.

1.) normal, honest, educated, objective people cant control where YOUR mind goes lol
2.) its factually nothing like that, why post lies like that?
3.) your feelings simply dont matter to facts . . by all means, tell us how that medical acronym dehumanizes when it stands for THREE things that are ALL human life????

Is EMT and POTUS dehumanizing to your feelings too? to bad if it is nobody cares especially facts.

You posted lies fail again and the fact remains ZEFs exist, its not dehumanizing and morals are subjective. Please let us know when you can prove otherwise, thanks!
 
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No, the most important clause is the first since it removes certainty from all the claims.

The "but" negates the uncertainty of what follows. The 'as sure' confirms the certainty.
 
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Using the term "Zef" makes the human life inside the womb sound like something out of a 50s horror flick. It's like calling it the Blob. The term dehumanizes the gestating human life involved in pregnancy.

Prove it.
 
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The "but" negates the uncertainty of what follows. The 'as sure' confirms the certainty.
No. The series of clauses express degrees of assurance, no certainty, no proof. The "but" merely sets up a different degree of assurance.
 
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Using the term "Zef" makes the human life inside the womb sound like something out of a 50s horror flick. It's like calling it the Blob. The term dehumanizes the gestating human life involved in pregnancy. And our exchanges on this term are squarely on topic, as "Zef" epitomizes the semantic subterfuges used by abortion apologists to sell abortion to the masses.

Is blob an acronym? Never heard that one. If it is not...how does it compare to ZEF which is an acronym for accepted terminology.
 
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Angel is running away again I see
 
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Is blob an acronym? Never heard that one. If it is not...how does it compare to ZEF which is an acronym for accepted terminology.
It's a metonym. It compares revealingly to your use of the acronym.
 
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It's a metonym. It compares revealingly to your use of the acronym.

ZEF is a acronym. A shortcut in typing and speech. If you have ever been in the medical field or military....acronyms are free flowing.

Blob is a noun

It must be hard for you when people do not buy into your silliness.
 
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ZEF is a acronym. A shortcut in typing and speech. If you have ever been in the medical field or military....acronyms are free flowing.

Blob is a noun

It must be hard for you when people do not buy into your silliness.
ZEF is a synecdoche.
"Zef" or "zef" of ZEF is a "nym" and my criticism of this "nym" stands -- that criticism goes to the use of the name by abortion apologists and the effect that use has in abortion discourse.
Please give it a rest.
 
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"Zef" or "zef" of ZEF is a "nym" and my criticism of this "nym" stands -- that criticism goes to the use of the name by abortion apologists and the effect that use has in abortion discourse.
Please give it a rest.

Will you give it a rest?
 
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"Zef" or "zef" of ZEF is a "nym" and my criticism of this "nym" stands -- that criticism goes to the use of the name by abortion apologists and the effect that use has in abortion discourse.
Please give it a rest.

ZEF is a synecdoche and an acronym. A synecdochal acronym or maybe an acronymal synecdoche? It is not a metonym.


ac·ro·nym: noun: an abbreviation formed from the initial letters of other words and pronounced as a word (e.g. ASCII, NASA ).

syn·ec·do·che: noun: a figure of speech in which a part is made to represent the whole or vice versa, as in Cleveland won by six runs (meaning “Cleveland's baseball team”).

met·o·nym: noun: a word, name, or expression used as a substitute for something else with which it is closely associated. For example, Washington is a metonym for the federal government of the US.
 
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I thought this was good summation of the significant points any of which could be chosen as the answer to the question of when human life begins.

Strictly biological science.

when-does-a-human-life-begins-17-timepoints

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Being a biologist, a textbook author, and a mother, I’ve thought a great deal about the question of when a human life begins. So here are my selections of times at which a biologist might argue a human organism is alive. I’ll save my opinion for the end.

1. Life is a continuum. Gametes (sperm and oocyte) link generations.

2. The germline. As oocytes and sperm form, their imprints – epigenetic changes from the parents’ genomes – are lifted.

3. The fertilized ovum. Of the hundreds of sperm surviving the swim upstream to the oocyte, one jettisons its tail and nuzzles inside the much larger cell, which becomes an ovum, completing its own meiosis. A fertilized ovum = conception.

4. Pronuclei merge, within 12 hours. After fertilization, the packets of DNA from male and female — the pronuclei — approach, merge, and the intermingling chromosomes pair and part, as the first mitotic division looms. A new human genome forms. Following that first division, some genes from the new genome are accessed to make proteins, but maternal transcripts still dominate development.

5. Cleavage. Divisions ensue. The cells of an 8-celled embryo (day 3) have not yet committed to becoming part of the embryo “proper” (one with layers) or the supportive membranes. Such a cell can still, on its own, develop. An 8-celled embryo whose cells are teased apart could lead to an octamom situation.
6. Day 5. The new genome takes over as maternal transcripts are depleted. The inner cell mass (icm) separates from the hollow ball of cells and takes up residence on the interior surface. It will become the embryo proper, distinguishing itself from the remaining part of the ball fated to become the extra-embryonic membranes. The icm is what all the fuss about human embryonic stem (hES) cells is about — the stem cells aren’t the icm cells, but are cultured from them.

7. End of the first week. The embryo implants in the uterine lining.

8. Day 16. The gastrula. Tissue layers form, first the ectoderm and endoderm, then the sandwich filling, the mesoderm. Each layer gives rise to specific body parts.

9. Day 14. The primitive streak forms, classically the first sign of a nervous system and when some nations set the deadline for no longer using human embryos in experiments.

10. Day 18. The heart beats.

11. Day 28. The notochord closes, and within it the neural tube forms, preliminary to the spinal cord, while the bulge at the top will come to house the brain. If the tube doesn’t close completely, a neural tube defect (anencephaly, spina bifida, and a few others) results.
12. End of week 8. The embryo becomes a fetus, all structures present in rudimentary form. Attention anti-choice advocates: before this the prenatal human is not a fetus.

13. Week 14 or thereabouts. “Quickening,” the flutter a woman feels in her abdomen that will progress to squirms and kicks from within.

14. Week 21. A fetus has a (very slim) chance of becoming a premature baby if delivered.

15. Birth.

16. Puberty. The Darwinian definition of what matters on a population and species level, when reproduction becomes possible.

17. Acceptance into medical school. I don’t know where this came from, a joke about Jewish mothers, but in some circles it might now apply to acceptance into preschool. Or when one’s grown offspring leave home.

My answer? #14. The ability to survive outside the body of another sets a practical, technological limit on defining when a sustainable human life begins. That limit may of course change.
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ZEF is a synecdoche and an acronym. A synecdochal acronym or maybe an acronymal synecdoche? It is not a metonym.


ac·ro·nym: noun: an abbreviation formed from the initial letters of other words and pronounced as a word (e.g. ASCII, NASA ).

syn·ec·do·che: noun: a figure of speech in which a part is made to represent the whole or vice versa, as in Cleveland won by six runs (meaning “Cleveland's baseball team”).

met·o·nym: noun: a word, name, or expression used as a substitute for something else with which it is closely associated. For example, Washington is a metonym for the federal government of the US.
Please look more closely at #1314. Metonym was used as regards The Blob, the sci-fi monster.
 
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"Zef" or "zef" of ZEF is a "nym" and my criticism of this "nym" stands -- that criticism goes to the use of the name by abortion apologists and the effect that use has in abortion discourse.
Please give it a rest.

Who is apologizing for abortion?

ZEF is an acronym for zygote, embryo, fetus. Do you find those terms dehumanizing as well>
 
Re: [W:344]License to Kill

I thought this was good summation of the significant points any of which could be chosen as the answer to the question of when human life begins.

Strictly biological science.

when-does-a-human-life-begins-17-timepoints

Two corrections:
at day 18 there is no heart or heart beat. There are two endocardial tubes formed from the mesoderm that begin to show evidence of the electrical charge from the sinus node that will, when the heart has 4 chambers, initiate the contraction of muscular tissue making the heart "beat". There is no beat to the two endocardial tubes because they do not have muscular tissue. The heart does not have 4 chambers until the 28th day. The atriorventricular valves don't form until the 5th week and the semilunar valves form between the 5 and 9th week. These valves force the blood to circulate through one chamber into the next and into the lungs to pick up oxygen. Essentially there isn't an organ recognizable and functioning as a heart until these valves are completed. And it isn't until birth when the lungs expand and the foramen ovale is forced to close that the heart begins functioning with all 4 chambers. The heart beat laws are erroneous there is no heart beat at 18 days only an electrical impulse that will eventually trigger the eventual heart muscles.

at 21 weeks a fetus does not have even a slim chance of survival. Only one fetus has survived at 21 weeks and grown into a healthy child. At 22 weeks a fetus may survive but there is a 90% chance of mental retardation or physiological deformations. The chances of serious mental and physiological issues decreases as each week of gestation increases but the chances of survival with no handicaps is rare until late in the 7th month.
 
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