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[W:344:1201]License to Kill

Re: License to Kill

AGENT J said:
over 300 posts and the OP still fails and has zero facts tough, your posted feelings dont change anything

Fact remains abortion =/= murder, Abortion =/= licenses to kill and Morals are objective

Until ANYBODY can post ONE fact proving otherwise your claims will continue to fail and be correctly identified as factually wrong. Can ANYBODY prove otherwise? Anybody? . . one fact is all that is needed . . .ONE, thanks!
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These boilerplate posts of yours, unresponsive and meanly provocative as they are, always put me in mind of a line uttered by Hamlet in the Shakespeare play: "Buzz, buzz."
 
Re: License to Kill

Angel said:
A recent post missing the point prompts me to follow up on this response lest there be any false impression on the record.
Your post, pointing out that natural abortions occur, does not refute my post that nature forces women to carry to term unless women will otherwise.
The natural exceptions prove the natural rule.
Now carry on.
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No, you are still wrong.

"Nature" also "forces" miscarriages on pregnant humans and other pregnant animals against their will all the time. Not remotely exceptions.
 
Re: License to Kill

Angel said:
These boilerplate posts of yours, unresponsive and meanly provocative as they are, always put me in mind of a line uttered by Hamlet in the Shakespeare play: "Buzz, buzz."
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LMAO AWESOME!!!

I present Exhibit A right on que!!! Always so much fun when facts prove me right!

A post that has ZERO facts in it to support the failed OP and is just more dodging bobbing and weaving

Fact remains your OP failed, abortion =/= murder, Abortion =/= licenses to kill and Morals are objective until you can or anybody can prove otherwise your posted fails will continue much to the entertainment of many here. We're waiting, Thanks!
 
Re: License to Kill

Angel said:
"If you were to learn that the dictator of a small nation in Asia had executed one million citizens per year for the last 50 years for political reasons, would you or would you not find the dictator's actions morally repugnant?"
Angel Trismegistus​
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Angel said:
If you would not find the dictator's actions morally repugnant, then your moral intuitions are extravagantly out of sync with mine and doubtless those of the rest of the civilized world.

If you would indeed find the dictator's actions morally repugnant, then your moral intuitions are perfectly in sync with mine and likely those of the rest of the civilized world.

Now, if most if not all civilized citizens of the world find the termination of 50 million innocent human lives for political reasons morally repugnant, how can the termination of 50 million innocent human lives for political reasons in the case of elective abortion in the last 50 years not be morally repugnant to civilized citizens of the world?
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Answer: Politics Poisons the Moral Intuitions of Mankind.
 
Re: License to Kill

Angel said:
Answer: Politics Poisons the Moral Intuitions of Mankind.
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And yet more avoidance and obfuscation.

What happened to your original arguments? Why arent you answering the posts and questions we provided...per your constant "challenging"...to discuss?

Our questions are meant to help refine and understand YOUR OP argument. Yet you refuse to answer. Why is that?

I'm not interested in any new scenarios until you address the ones that have been civilly offered by several of us.

If this is your admission that your OP failed, then why not just start a new thread?
 
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Re: License to Kill

AGENT J said:
LMAO AWESOME!!!

I present Exhibit A right on que!!! Always so much fun when facts prove me right!

A post that has ZERO facts in it to support the failed OP and is just more dodging bobbing and weaving

Fact remains your OP failed, abortion =/= murder, Abortion =/= licenses to kill and Morals are objective until you can or anybody can prove otherwise your posted fails will continue much to the entertainment of many here. We're waiting, Thanks!
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In the immortal words of Shakespeare, "Buzz, buzz."
 
Re: License to Kill

Angel said:
In the immortal words of Shakespeare, "Buzz, buzz."
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another dip, dodge bobbin and weavin = another hilarious fail! Owning your failed claims is so much fun.
Fact remains your OP failed, abortion =/= murder, Abortion =/= licenses to kill and Morals are objective until you can or anybody can prove otherwise your posted fails will continue much to the entertainment of many here. We're waiting, Thanks!
 
Re: License to Kill

Lursa said:
...Why arent you answering the posts and questions we provided...per your constant "challenging"...to discuss?

Our questions are meant to help refine and understand YOUR OP argument. Yet you refuse to answer. Why is that?...
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You know why.
Lursa said:
You are lying...
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Angel said:
Stop calling me a liar, number one....
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Lursa said:
First, you have been lying so I will indeed call you out on it. Dont like it? Dont lie
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Angel said:
...We're done.
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Angel said:
We're done...
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Also, there's a mod thread warning about personal remarks at #344. Look to it.
 
Re: License to Kill

Angel said:
You know why.

Also, there's a mod thread warning about personal remarks at #344. Look to it.
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I'm trying to engage in a discussion, as you continually exhort you desire. If you dont want to be accused of lying, dont lie.

It's not that hard. Posting that I'm complying with your constant challenge to discuss and asking relevant questions is not 'posting about you,' it's attempting to get things back on track to discuss...on a discussion forum. :doh

If you choose not to, then I will continue to post for others to consider.

Lursa said:
What happened to your original arguments? Why arent you answering the posts and questions we provided...per your constant "challenging"...to discuss?

Our questions are meant to help refine and understand YOUR OP argument.

I'm not interested in any new scenarios until you address the ones that have been civilly offered by several of us.
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A more immediate and relevant response from you would be to address the questions from me and Lefty regarding the moral distinctions you see (and have not yet explained) between killing humans and killing other species, like raccoons.

Please do so.
 
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Re: License to Kill

Angel said:
Answer: Politics Poisons the Moral Intuitions of Mankind.
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And America has had her moral intuitions poisoned in the course of fifty years by radical feminism.
In response to the moral catastrophe identified in the Op we hear an endless chorus of political talking points and pro-abortion propaganda.
Time for America to "woman up" and recognize the culture of abortion as the rank immorality it is.
That's the thesis of this thread.
 
Re: License to Kill

Angel said:
And America has had her moral intuitions poisoned in the course of fifty years by radical feminism.
In response to the moral catastrophe identified in the Op we hear an endless chorus of political talking points and pro-abortion propaganda.
Time for America to "woman up" and recognize the culture of abortion as the rank immorality it is.
That's the thesis of this thread.
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once again since morals are subjective you have no basis for your claims, theres no support for any of it. it all amounts to your meaningless feelings.

Millions feel it would be immoral to violate a womans legal and human rights and force her to risk her health and life against her will treating her as a second class citizen. Your feelings are no better than theirs and vice versa. SO here we are in the same place 360+ posta in and your OP failed and that fact remains true now. Your OP failed, abortion =/= murder, Abortion =/= licenses to kill and Morals are objective until you can or anybody can prove otherwise nothign will change.
 
Re: License to Kill

AGENT J said:
once again since morals are subjective you have no basis for your claims, theres no support for any of it. it all amounts to your meaningless feelings.

Millions feel it would be immoral to violate a womans legal and human rights and force her to risk her health and life against her will treating her as a second class citizen. Your feelings are no better than theirs and vice versa. SO here we are in the same place 360+ posta in and your OP failed and that fact remains true now. Your OP failed, abortion =/= murder, Abortion =/= licenses to kill and Morals are objective until you can or anybody can prove otherwise nothign will change.
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Yet another post in the aforementioned "endless chorus of political talking points and pro-abortion propaganda." Radical Feminist ventriloquism.
 
Re: License to Kill

Angel said:
A recent post missing the point prompts me to follow up on this response lest there be any false impression on the record.
Your post, pointing out that natural abortions occur, does not refute my post that nature forces women to carry to term unless women will otherwise.
The natural exceptions prove the natural rule.
Now carry on.
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Did you miss the 'against their will' part? Nature does not force women to gestate against their will, since there exists an alternative in abortion.
 
Re: License to Kill

Scrabaholic said:
Did you miss the 'against their will' part? Nature does not force women to gestate against their will, since there exists an alternative in abortion.
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You seem to be missing the "will" part. Absent an exercise of will to the contrary, and the exceptional natural miscarriage, nature takes its course.
 
Re: License to Kill

Angel said:
Yet another post in the aforementioned "endless chorus of political talking points and pro-abortion propaganda." Radical Feminist ventriloquism.
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No matter how many times you deflect from facts your posted deflections will fail each time much to our delight. Ist awesome because it only further exposes how factually wrong your failed OP is hence why you elect to not simply post one fact that supports your lies and proves the rest of the posters wrong. You dont, because you cant.

Please let us know when you can prove morals are objective and abortion is a license to kill, thanks!
 
Re: License to Kill

AGENT J said:
No matter how many times you deflect from facts your posted deflections will fail each time much to our delight. Ist awesome because it only further exposes how factually wrong your failed OP is hence why you elect to not simply post one fact that supports your lies and proves the rest of the posters wrong. You dont, because you cant.

Please let us know when you can prove morals are objective and abortion is a license to kill, thanks!
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"Buzz, buzz."
 
Re: License to Kill

Angel said:
"Buzz, buzz."
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another delicious dodge!! You post fails again
all you have to do is post ONE fact that supports the op . . one . .ready . .go!
 
Re: License to Kill

Angel said:
You seem to be missing the "will" part. Absent an exercise of will to the contrary, and the exceptional natural miscarriage, nature takes its course.
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When abortion is readily available, if a woman chooses not to avail herself of it, then she is choosing to gestate and give birth.
 
Re: License to Kill

AGENT J said:
i knew you would dodge the question lol
so ill ask you AGAIN

who wants to intimidated and bully you into believing abortion is as American as apple pie.??
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Those who think women should have the right to destroy life in which I am opposed. Those who support abortions thinks it's the right thing to do...just like same sex marriages it's wrong. One day I will take you more seriously. Ah yes my team the Ravens won.
 
Re: License to Kill

AGENT J said:
another delicious dodge!! You post fails again
all you have to do is post ONE fact that supports the op . . one . .ready . .go!
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Best not to respond if you don't have anything reasonable to discuss or respond.
 
Re: License to Kill

Angel said:
You seem to be missing the "will" part. Absent an exercise of will to the contrary, and the exceptional natural miscarriage, nature takes its course.
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Miscarriages are not even 'exceptional' among human women, much less other species.

Which fertilized eggs will become healthy human fetuses? Researchers predict with 93% accuracy -- ScienceDaily

Two-thirds of all human embryos fail to develop successfully. Now, in a new study, researchers have shown that they can predict with 93 percent certainty which fertilized eggs will make it to a critical developmental milestone and which will stall and die. The findings are important to the understanding of the fundamentals of human development at the earliest stages, which have largely remained a mystery despite the attention given to human embryonic stem cell research.​

Again, this argument of yours...fails.

You should acknowledge it and move on.
 
Re: License to Kill

PTF said:
Those who think women should have the right to destroy life in which I am opposed. Those who support abortions thinks it's the right thing to do...just like same sex marriages it's wrong. One day I will take you more seriously. Ah yes my team the Ravens won.
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In both cases, I ask...'who says?' What authority are you basing your opinion on?

And your opinion re: abortion is not supported by a majority...not in the US or the world. No human rights organizations, national or international, recognize rights for the unborn. (excepting some religious orgs).

So I ask again...who's opinion, what authority, is what I bolded from?
 
Re: License to Kill

PTF said:
1.)Those who think women should have the right to destroy life in which I am opposed.
2.) Those who support abortions thinks it's the right thing to do...
3.) just like same sex marriages it's wrong.
4.) One day I will take you more seriously. Ah yes my team the Ravens won.
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1.) the topic is abortion, women dont have "a right to destroy life" please stay on topic
2.) no they factually dont you cant that lie on somebody that might believe it but since theres no facts to support it, it wont work on anybody honest educated and objective
3.) hey look more meaningless off topic feelings of yours that dont support anything you claimed
4.) aaaaaand another deflection since you have nothign to support your exposed lies LMAO awesome!!!

ill ask my question again and we will watch you dodge and run once more!

who wants to intimidated and bully you into believing abortion is as American as apple pie.??
 
Re: License to Kill

PTF said:
Best not to respond if you don't have anything reasonable to discuss or respond.
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I agree if you or others catn post honestly accurately and or make posts based on facts or that are supportable the results are always going to be the same. Your post and lies losing to facts.
Let us know when you are ready to start!
 
Re: License to Kill

Scrabaholic said:
When abortion is readily available, if a woman chooses not to avail herself of it, then she is choosing to gestate and give birth.
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Abortion as an option has always been available, going back to cave woman. Unless a woman exerts her will against it, pregnancy takes nature's course.
 
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