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    Re: [W:344]License to Kill

    Abortion Culture

    "Abortion Culture" is the current state of affairs in America (and Canada), a state of affairs a half-century in the making, in which the unreflective promotion of unnecessary abortion flourishes under color of law.

    The 10 Talking Points of Abortion Culture

    1. the unborn human being is a "Zef" -- a political non-entity whose extinction is of no consequence
    2. the unborn human being is not a "person"
    3. the developing human being inside the womb has no moral right to life
    4. because abortion is legal, abortion is not immoral
    5. because a woman has a legal right to abort a pregnancy, she has no moral responsibility for her choice to abort
    6. pregnancy is a debility and a nuisance remedied by abortion
    7. abortion on the grounds of inconvenience is perfectly fine
    8. abortion is a practical solution to the problem of over-population
    9. feminism trumps humanism
    0. the opinion of men must be dismissed because men don't get pregnant
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    Re: [W:344]License to Kill

    Quote Originally Posted by Angel View Post
    Abortion Culture

    "Abortion Culture" is the current state of affairs in America (and Canada), a state of affairs a half-century in the making, in which the unreflective promotion of unnecessary abortion flourishes under color of law.

    The 10 Talking Points of Abortion Culture

    1. the unborn human being is a "Zef" -- a political non-entity whose extinction is of no consequence
    2. the unborn human being is not a "person"
    3. the developing human being inside the womb has no moral right to life
    4. because abortion is legal, abortion is not immoral
    5. because a woman has a legal right to abort a pregnancy, she has no moral responsibility for her choice to abort
    6. pregnancy is a debility and a nuisance remedied by abortion
    7. abortion on the grounds of inconvenience is perfectly fine
    8. abortion is a practical solution to the problem of over-population
    9. feminism trumps humanism
    0. the opinion of men must be dismissed because men don't get pregnant
    Nice list of strawmen you made there
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    Re: [W:344]License to Kill

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    Nice list of strawmen you made there
    Some of it is true ie. the zef is not a human being or person and it does not have a right to life. Some is untrue ie. I have never seen anyone say pregnancy is a debility.
    Abortion is amoral, it is neither moral or immoral.

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    Re: [W:344]License to Kill

    Quote Originally Posted by Angel View Post
    Listen, Miss. Take your feminist hermeneutics for a walk -- no thinking person takes it seriously. I wrote what I meant and I meant what I wrote. Your revision of my text is nugatory.
    Here's your verbal diarrhea or post, (which ever you prefer) with only the words actually needed highlighted.

    No, what's going down here, and what's been going down here for several torturous pages of the thread, is that two abortion apologists; ie women have been trying to deny that one of them made the very claim you make in this forthright post of yours quoted above, a denial made more urgent (and ugly) by the fact that the member who recognized and called attention to this claim by the abortion apologist happened to be the notorious thinking pro-choicer-cum-anti-abortion-polemicist Angel Trismegistus, for whom they harbor a rankling animus precisely because he; ie a male is a thinking pro-choicer-cum-anti-abortion-polemicist who challenges them in their fantastical talking-point universe of discourse at every turn in the road to moral perdition it has mapped for America in the last half-century. See?

    Meaning has not been changed. I could have left out "moral perdition", but it was so cutely pretentious I left it in as a salute to all your richly eloquent and nugatory pomposities.
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    Re: [W:344]License to Kill

    Quote Originally Posted by Angel View Post

    The 10 Talking Points of Abortion Culture

    1. the unborn human being is a "Zef" -- a political non-entity whose extinction is of no consequence
    2. the unborn human being is not a "person"
    3. the developing human being inside the womb has no moral right to life
    4. because abortion is legal, abortion is not immoral
    5. because a woman has a legal right to abort a pregnancy, she has no moral responsibility for her choice to abort
    6. pregnancy is a debility and a nuisance remedied by abortion
    7. abortion on the grounds of inconvenience is perfectly fine
    8. abortion is a practical solution to the problem of over-population
    9. feminism trumps humanism
    0. the opinion of men must be dismissed because men don't get pregnant
    1. Correct
    2. Correct
    3. Correct
    4. Correct ( Immorality is giving birth to a child a woman does not want and cannot take care of)
    5. Correct
    6. Correct (except for the debility part)
    7. Correct
    8. Correct
    9. Incorrect (feminism is included in humanism it doesn't supersede it)
    10. Yup, if all they are doing is lecturing women on how to manage their pregnancy

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    Re: [W:344]License to Kill

    Quote Originally Posted by weaver2 View Post
    1. Correct
    2. Correct
    3. Correct
    4. Correct ( Immorality is giving birth to a child a woman does not want and cannot take care of)
    5. Correct
    6. Correct (except for the debility part)
    7. Correct
    8. Correct
    9. Incorrect (feminism is included in humanism it doesn't supersede it)
    10. Yup, if all they are doing is lecturing women on how to manage their pregnancy
    Oh, they're all correct. Even the one you deny out of political correctness. They're all actual talking points of abortion apologetics, believe it or not.
    All are correct as attributions, but all are nothing more than talking points. All just abortion propaganda. Not a single cogent argument for any one of them.
    All just so much political jargon and cant.

    Or is there an abortion apologist in the house who will venture an argument for any one of these talking points?
    Anyone?
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    Re: [W:344]License to Kill

    Quote Originally Posted by weaver2 View Post
    ...Meaning has not been changed...
    Abortion is a serious issue. This thread is no place for radical feminist jokes.
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    Re: [W:344]License to Kill

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrabaholic View Post
    ...I have never seen anyone say pregnancy is a debility....
    See #1435 then if you insist on denying that you yourself said as much.
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    Re: [W:344]License to Kill

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrabaholic View Post
    Some of it is true ie. the zef is not a human being or person and it does not have a right to life. Some is untrue ie. I have never seen anyone say pregnancy is a debility.
    Abortion is amoral, it is neither moral or immoral.
    TBH I just read the last few lines (Angels posts are rarely worth the effort) As to the morality well its subjective so it can be moral/immoral/amoral depending on the person
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    Re: [W:344]License to Kill

    Quote Originally Posted by Angel View Post
    See #1435 then if you insist on denying that you yourself said as much.
    Pregnancy in and of itself is not a disability.

    It can cause disability. And depending on a person's employment, a pregnant person can work up until labor or need to be off work significantly earlier if no accommodations are available.

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