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2246 preserved fetal remains found in abortionist's garage

1.) i didnt say YOU quoted the bible, the link you posted had a quote in it and your reply the quote mentioned the bible.
2.) which is what?
3.) PROOF and there you go making up lies again for me to easily expose
4.) here comes the failed attacks again lol VERY telling

any time now :)
Dude, I know you're trying to flame me to get a reaction but you really should give it up. I would prefer to follow the Board rules.

Now would you like to address what I said in the post that I provided a link to or continue down this path? It doesn't make you look good.
 
1.)Dude, I know you're trying to flame me to get a reaction but you really should give it up.
2.) I would prefer to follow the Board rules.
3.) Now would you like to address what I said in the post that I provided a link to
4.) or continue down this path?
5.) It doesn't make you look good.

1.) factually wrong AGAIN

2.) then do it, stop making excuses

3.) like i already asked you, in #2 above what is your stance on abortioin so we can be clear

4.) then stop makign stuff up

5.) how i look to you is meaningless to me. Integrity honesty is what matters

so if theres anything else in your reply besides being clear on explaining your abortion stance (to avoid confusion) the fault is AGAIN with you . . .lets see what happens....
 
1.) factually wrong AGAIN

2.) then do it, stop making excuses

3.) like i already asked you, in #2 above what is your stance on abortioin so we can be clear

4.) then stop makign stuff up

5.) how i look to you is meaningless to me. Integrity honesty is what matters

so if theres anything else in your reply besides being clear on explaining your abortion stance (to avoid confusion) the fault is AGAIN with you . . .lets see what happens....

2246 preserved fetal remains found in abortionist's garage
 
I've waited several days to see if anybody would begin a thread on this; because no one has, I will. Ulrich "George" Klopfer was Indiana's most "prolific" abortionist, and after his death on September 3rd and while cleaning out the garage, his wife found his "trophies."

Any number of sources--WaPo, the NY Times, pick a source--have reported on the grisly discovery. From USA Today:

There’s something sick in America’s abortion industry. What else would account for a doctor who collected thousands of dead babies in some kind of twisted hobby that he hid from his allegedly unsuspecting wife.

Two thousand two hundred and forty-six fetuses were found “medically preserved” in Ulrich Klopfer’s garage last week after he died on Sept. 3. And now the attorneys general of Illinois and Indiana are investigating how the human remains got from Klopfer’s network of Indiana abortion clinics to his rural Illinois home and what laws might have been violated.

Klopfer isn’t the only abortionist to enjoy keeping trophies of his grisly work close at hand. America’s most infamous baby killer, Kermit Gosnell, also kept fetal body parts in “milk jugs and glass jars” at his clinic in Philadelphia before he was convicted in 2013 on three counts of murder for snipping the spinal cords of babies born alive. Klopfer abortion tale links Gosnell and Buttigieg to fetal remains

Family of abortion doctor doesn’t know why fetal remains were in garage at Will County home, lawyer says - Chicago Tribune

From pro-life writer Alexandra Desanctis:

If his family had uncovered thousands or hundreds or even dozens of body parts from human adults, we’d witness wall-to-wall news coverage of the most notorious serial killer in history — and rightly so. Instead, because they are small and we are not, we will close our eyes. In a few days, most of us will forget. We will tell ourselves that Klopfer was a criminal and the rest are not, that abortion is sterile and sanitary while these were not, that the unborn don’t have bodies if we don’t have to look at them. Indiana Abortion Horror Reminds Us: Fetuses Are Human Beings | National Review
He was a weirdo, and he's dead. That doesn't mean we ban abortion over it. We don't ban marriage over 1 abusive spouse, we don't ban driving over 1 drunk road-rager, we don't ban guns over 1 store shooter. Life goes on.
 

and thats what I thought, I asked you to explain what you are talking about so we are clear and you give me the same link that i already asked you to clealry explain about. Well i tried. good luck!
If you want an honest and integrity based conversation youll do what i ask so theres no confusion or youll just prove me right again.

this is your link
My position is rather simple. If life ends when a person takes their last breath then by logic it must begin when a person takes their first breath. However I still struggle with the fact that a fetus is breathing while in the womb. Definitely not air, but still filling it's lungs for the moment when it's birthed.

how is this your stance on abortion?

last chance
 
and thats what I thought, I asked you to explain what you are talking about so we are clear and you give me the same link that i already asked you to clealry explain about. Well i tried. good luck!
If you want an honest and integrity based conversation youll do what i ask so theres no confusion or youll just prove me right again.

this is your link


how is this your stance on abortion?

last chance
It's sorta like a comedian telling a joke that someone in the audience doesn't get. If he has to explain it chances are that person would still not get it. Use that superior intelligence you pretend to have and figure it out.
 
It's sorta like a comedian telling a joke that someone in the audience doesn't get. If he has to explain it chances are that person would still not get it. Use that superior intelligence you pretend to have and figure it out.

LOL thats what i thought! once again thanks for proving me right! another post of yours complete fails. so awesome!
 
2246 preserved fetal remains found in abortionist's garage

I'll keep redirecting you to a post on the topic of abortion in the hopes that you might come to your senses and address it (honestly) instead of going down this path of attacking me. Your choice but until you do the link is all you're going to get from here on in.

Nice try but that lie wont work. it just exposes your failed posts each time you do it and its awesome.!
 

this is your link
My position is rather simple. If life ends when a person takes their last breath then by logic it must begin when a person takes their first breath. However I still struggle with the fact that a fetus is breathing while in the womb. Definitely not air, but still filling it's lungs for the moment when it's birthed.

how is this your stance on abortion?
:popcorn2:
 
I've waited several days to see if anybody would begin a thread on this; because no one has, I will. Ulrich "George" Klopfer was Indiana's most "prolific" abortionist, and after his death on September 3rd and while cleaning out the garage, his wife found his "trophies."

Any number of sources--WaPo, the NY Times, pick a source--have reported on the grisly discovery. From USA Today:

There’s something sick in America’s abortion industry. What else would account for a doctor who collected thousands of dead babies in some kind of twisted hobby that he hid from his allegedly unsuspecting wife.

Two thousand two hundred and forty-six fetuses were found “medically preserved” in Ulrich Klopfer’s garage last week after he died on Sept. 3. And now the attorneys general of Illinois and Indiana are investigating how the human remains got from Klopfer’s network of Indiana abortion clinics to his rural Illinois home and what laws might have been violated.

Klopfer isn’t the only abortionist to enjoy keeping trophies of his grisly work close at hand. America’s most infamous baby killer, Kermit Gosnell, also kept fetal body parts in “milk jugs and glass jars” at his clinic in Philadelphia before he was convicted in 2013 on three counts of murder for snipping the spinal cords of babies born alive. Klopfer abortion tale links Gosnell and Buttigieg to fetal remains

Family of abortion doctor doesn’t know why fetal remains were in garage at Will County home, lawyer says - Chicago Tribune

From pro-life writer Alexandra Desanctis:

If his family had uncovered thousands or hundreds or even dozens of body parts from human adults, we’d witness wall-to-wall news coverage of the most notorious serial killer in history — and rightly so. Instead, because they are small and we are not, we will close our eyes. In a few days, most of us will forget. We will tell ourselves that Klopfer was a criminal and the rest are not, that abortion is sterile and sanitary while these were not, that the unborn don’t have bodies if we don’t have to look at them. Indiana Abortion Horror Reminds Us: Fetuses Are Human Beings | National Review

Here's what you get with the baby killers.
 
this is your link


how is this your stance on abortion?
:popcorn2:
Take the argument and break it down. If life ends when a person takes their last breath then by logic it begins when they take their first.
 
People who think fetuses are not human beings are not human beings. The status of human being is bestowed upon a living soul.

Now that we have a fetus that lived outside after 4 months old this proves that abortion after 4 months is clearly murder.
 
Take the argument and break it down. If life ends when a person takes their last breath then by logic it begins when they take their first.

so :shrug:

"life" has no impact on my abortion stance so you'll have to explain how it does yours. I dont make up false assumptions. Let see if you can answer or you dodge again.
 
so :shrug:

"life" has no impact on my abortion stance so you'll have to explain how it does yours. I dont make up false assumptions. Let see if you can answer or you dodge again.
I'm sorry. I refuse to continue this game with you. :2wave:
 
Take the argument and break it down. If life ends when a person takes their last breath then by logic it begins when they take their first.

Hardly. When you take your last breath you die. No life at that point. A baby/fetus is a living being while inside the mothers womb. Refusal of the left to acknowledge that a baby is living is just their choice.
 
I'm sorry. I refuse to continue this game with you. :2wave:
yeah i bet losing that much cant be fun. Thanks for proving me right again. But its a good move, run away, thanks for the entertainment, happy trails!
 
Hardly. When you take your last breath you die. No life at that point. A baby/fetus is a living being while inside the mothers womb. Refusal of the left to acknowledge that a baby is living is just their choice.

can you name all the people "on the left" that claim a fetus is not alive? thanks :)
 
Hardly. When you take your last breath you die. No life at that point. A baby/fetus is a living being while inside the mothers womb. Refusal of the left to acknowledge that a baby is living is just their choice.
Well, I guess I'm going to have switch sides in this discussion. A plant has life. I would call it growth life. The fetus has the same. But a person has breath life wherein it's source comes from the air. Does the fetus have the same?
 
Okay than maybe its they (abortion advocates) just disrespect the sanctity of the life, is that a good compromise?

And I was referring to men and women on the left who lack a moral compass.


If you want to maintain your facade of moral superiority I suggest that you not post such incredibly juvenile vilification,

"dem·o·crat \ de-mə-ˌkrat: One who subverts authority; a dissenter; a detractor; a denigrator; a disparager; a calumniator; a traducer; a libeler; an asperser; a reviler; a vilifier; a defamer; a carper; a deceiver; a defector; a tergiversator; an equivocator; a recreant; a collaborator; a dissident; an agitator; an obfuscator; a fomenter;"

There's nothing that spoils the air of superiority faster than childish trash talk.
 
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