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    We Know the Cure for Poverty: The Empowerment of Women

    A Hitchens quote that has seemingly escaped the pro-birth crowd:



    Think of the stark progress the pro-birthers are trying to destroy; the ability for a thinking, contributing, personified member of our public being forced to endure something against their will; being forced to allow another entity (not a person) to use their life force; to then cut funding for aide to people; and to criminalize a medical procedure.

    This is precisely why the overton window must be shifted back to the center.

    These conversations, about abortion, and many other issues deemed sanct to the religious right, are not conversations a super power, western, advanced nation should be having; the case is closed. We know the result of backward thinking; we've LIVED the reality of the pro-birth position and have changed our ways, and yet, the pro-birth crowd insists it will be.. different, this time.

    No, it won't. Enabling their vampiric religious belief to enact policy and undermine jurisprudence and constitutional rights will destroy this country.
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    Re: We Know the Cure for Poverty: The Empowerment of Women

    By letting women be god-less murdering whores?
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    Re: We Know the Cure for Poverty: The Empowerment of Women

    This conversation should go well...
    "Democracy without respect for individual rights sucks. It's just ganging up against the weird kid, and I'm always the weird kid." - Penn Jillette.

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    Re: We Know the Cure for Poverty: The Empowerment of Women

    Quote Originally Posted by Obscurity View Post
    A Hitchens quote that has seemingly escaped the pro-birth crowd:



    Think of the stark progress the pro-birthers are trying to destroy; the ability for a thinking, contributing, personified member of our public being forced to endure something against their will; being forced to allow another entity (not a person) to use their life force; to then cut funding for aide to people; and to criminalize a medical procedure.

    This is precisely why the overton window must be shifted back to the center.

    These conversations, about abortion, and many other issues deemed sanct to the religious right, are not conversations a super power, western, advanced nation should be having; the case is closed. We know the result of backward thinking; we've LIVED the reality of the pro-birth position and have changed our ways, and yet, the pro-birth crowd insists it will be.. different, this time.

    No, it won't. Enabling their vampiric religious belief to enact policy and undermine jurisprudence and constitutional rights will destroy this country.
    Where did you dig that up? And why?
    "... quote that has seemingly escaped the pro-birth crowd" assumes a great deal.
    The guy's been dead for 8 years.
    Why would you think something he said near the end of his own life would carry any weight with pro-lifers anyway?

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    Re: We Know the Cure for Poverty: The Empowerment of Women

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    By letting women be god-less murdering whores?
    What a disgusting, grotesque comment.
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    Re: We Know the Cure for Poverty: The Empowerment of Women

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Where did you dig that up? And why?
    "... quote that has seemingly escaped the pro-birth crowd" assumes a great deal.
    The guy's been dead for 8 years.
    Why would you think something he said near the end of his own life would carry any weight with pro-lifers anyway?
    As a fan of Hitchens, all of his works, I find the overton window needs a shove back to the realm of sanity, and this quote by Hitchens does it best.

    The entire conversation has been emotionally hijacked by ne'er-do-well busy bodies who have nothing better to do than judge others for the individal choices they make; see above for one of said person's commentary.

    Carry weight? It's not the pro-birthers I am trying to convince. It's everyone else; we need a sane conversation, not a theocratic manifesto of bronze age war god panderings.
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    Re: We Know the Cure for Poverty: The Empowerment of Women

    Quote Originally Posted by Obscurity View Post
    As a fan of Hitchens, all of his works, I find the overton window needs a shove back to the realm of sanity, and this quote by Hitchens does it best.

    The entire conversation has been emotionally hijacked by ne'er-do-well busy bodies who have nothing better to do than judge others for the individal choices they make; see above for one of said person's commentary.

    Carry weight? It's not the pro-birthers I am trying to convince. It's everyone else; we need a sane conversation, not a theocratic manifesto of bronze age war god panderings.
    That's what made "... quote that has seemingly escaped the pro-birth crowd" so peculiar.
    Like if a quote by someone they never heard of had not escaped pro-lifers they would have cast aside their silly concerns about when human life begins.

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    Re: We Know the Cure for Poverty: The Empowerment of Women

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    By letting women be god-less murdering whores?
    You might try to be a little more prudent before referring to women that choose abortion as 'god-less murdering whores' especially knowing Trump's sexual proclivities and the likely possibility that he helped paid for many of the abortions for his 'god-less murdering whores' that he impregnated over the past 40 years.




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    Re: We Know the Cure for Poverty: The Empowerment of Women

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    You might try to be a little more prudent before referring to women that choose abortion as 'god-less murdering whores' especially knowing Trump's sexual proclivities and the likely possibility that he helped paid for many of the abortions for his 'god-less murdering whores' that he impregnated over the past 40 years.
    This is how far the overton window has shifted; that these people are able to come out and say such tragic and.... obtuse things as that which you quote.

    At the end of the day, the window is too far to the right; the conversation is a disgusting misrepresentation by a minority of ideologues and foisted endlessly into the judicial system over and over at the expense of tax payers to the tune of billions.

    It's endless and it must stop.
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    Re: We Know the Cure for Poverty: The Empowerment of Women

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    That's what made "... quote that has seemingly escaped the pro-birth crowd" so peculiar.
    Like if a quote by someone they never heard of had not escaped pro-lifers they would have cast aside their silly concerns about when human life begins.
    It's peculiar, but then again, it's a call to those in the center and left that the pro birth crowd is beyond saving. They literally excuse the egregious abuse of women in their tireless crusade and endless waste of money so they can define and refine a bogus conversation which is full of nonsense, all so RESTRICTING some forms of abortion becomes acceptable to the rest of us; then it goes further, and further, and before you know it, it's outlawed and we live in a christian authoritarian dictat.

    A republic, if you can keep it.
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