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year2late said:
I find some of the worst anti-Christian rhetoric is Chrstian on CHristian "crime".

The way some Christians speak about Catholics is :shock: (and vice versa)

The reality is that there are clear fundamentals that they all accept. But a wide range of differences.

And we have a poster here, Minnie, who I have seen beat up for her beliefs as a Christian - and pretty much ONLY by Christians. My guess is that if I looked you probably had a hand in such Christian or Christian "crimes"
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The abortion issue would clearly fall into the *fundamental difference category. I doubt she has been chastised for other differences here.
 
WCH said:
The abortion issue would clearly fall into the *fundamental difference category. I doubt she has been chastised for other differences here.
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A difference in interpretation, not a difference in fundamental beliefs.

Like I said, on this board Christian on Christian "crime" is pretty common.
 
WCH said:
The abortion issue would clearly fall into the *fundamental difference category. I doubt she has been chastised for other differences here.
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She and others have been told they are not Christians because their church is essentially pro-choice.
 
year2late said:
A difference in interpretation, not a difference in fundamental beliefs.

Like I said, on this board Christian on Christian "crime" is pretty common.
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It's not a crime to disagree.
 
WCH said:
That's what I said.
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So you think people who do not believe your interpretation of the Bible, but accept the Lord and Savior are not Christians?

I am trying to understand.
 
WCH said:
It's not a crime to disagree.
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You saw that "crime" was not meant literally...hence the "...."

So if someone goes to A Christian church that allows for pro-choice beliefs.....are they excluded from being Christian at that time?
 
WCH said:
That's what I said.
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Pro choice is not pro abortion.

Our church does not interfere with other regions be it the Jewish regions or other Christian religions.

You seem not acknowledge we can be personally against abortion but we allow Free Will.

As a member of the Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice we value Religious Liberty .
 
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WCH said:
You didn't answer the question.

FWIW I don't adhere to a particular sect of Christianity nor am I associated with a church....unless you include following the Father Price series of "Ever Increasing Faith".

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I'm familiar with "Father" Price.
In February 1970, Price received the baptism of the Holy Spirit with the evidence of "speaking in tongues," an event which he considered the starting point in his own ministry. Shortly thereafter, he encountered the Bible-teaching ministry of late preacher/televangelist Kenneth E. Hagin. Price joined the Neo-charismatic movement Word of Faith and began to teach the messages on speaking in tongues, divine healing, and prosperity teachings. He has been criticized for discriminatory statements on gays and Muslims
 
year2late said:
So you think people who do not believe your interpretation of the Bible, but accept the Lord and Savior are not Christians?

I am trying to understand.
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I said ABORTION/being pro-choice was a fundamental difference. Other than gay marriage, not sure there are any other political tools to wield.
 
year2late said:
You saw that "crime" was not meant literally...hence the "...."

So if someone goes to A Christian church that allows for pro-choice beliefs.....are they excluded from being Christian at that time?
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That's one of my problems with sects and churches. Therefore we don't attend any. Hell and damnation, gay marriage, etc. are also sticking points.

What we believe is generally a straight personal interpretation from the Holy Bible....no middle men
 
WCH said:
If you support abortion for convenience, you are pro-abortion. Murder is a deadly sin.
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When I read about all the reasons that are listed as to why a woman chooses to have an abortion ...
convenience NEVER enters my mind.

I have to laugh when pro lifers say most abortions are performed for " convenience ".

If a woman does not have the finances to continue a pregnancy let alone raise a child.
Are we supposed to assume that paying for the pregnancy let alone the cost of raising an child is
just an " inconvenience" ?

If she does not want to be a single parent...we should just assume that being a single parent is merely a little
" inconvenience" ?

If her born children are already almost grown and she accidentally became pregnant during the change of life
are we supposed to assume that experiencing a pregnancy that late in life is merely an " inconvenience "?

If a woman already has a few children and is already struggling just to feed the children she already has ...
should we assume that having another child at that point in her life would just be an " inconvenience?


I think NOT.

To me those reasons are not reasons of " convenience."
 
WCH said:
If you support abortion for convenience, you are pro-abortion. Murder is a deadly sin.
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How many women that you know; relatives, friends, neighbors; got an abortion just out of pure convenience. How many out that same bunch of women do you know go an abortion because it was necessary?

Do you actually know any women at all that have gotten an abortion?
 
WCH said:
If you support abortion for convenience, you are pro-abortion. Murder is a deadly sin.
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Convenience is a perfect reason for an abortion
 
WCH said:
I said ABORTION/being pro-choice was a fundamental difference. Other than gay marriage, not sure there are any other political tools to wield.
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So, if a poster said she was Christian and accepted Jesus as the Lord and Savior....do you believe she is Christian?
 
minnie616 said:
When I read about all the reasons that are listed as to why a woman chooses to have an abortion ...
convenience NEVER enters my mind.

I have to laugh when pro lifers say most abortions are performed for " convenience ".

If a woman does not have the finances to continue a pregnancy let alone raise a child.
Are we supposed to assume that paying for the pregnancy let alone the cost of raising an child is
just an " inconvenience" ?

If she does not want to be a single parent...we should just assume that being a single parent is merely a little
" inconvenience" ?

If her born children are already almost grown and she accidentally became pregnant during the change of life
are we supposed to assume that experiencing a pregnancy that late in life is merely an " inconvenience "?

If a woman already has a few children and is already struggling just to feed the children she already has ...
should we assume that having another child at that point in her life would just be an " inconvenience?


I think NOT.

To me those reasons are not reasons of " convenience."
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Nothing but excuses for bad behavior in most cases.
Using these excuses as a motive for killing a human being, your own flesh and blood, is pathetic.
 
weaver2 said:
How many women that you know; relatives, friends, neighbors; got an abortion just out of pure convenience. How many out that same bunch of women do you know go an abortion because it was necessary?

Do you actually know any women at all that have gotten an abortion?
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What difference does that make? Whatever the number is far too many.
 
WCH said:
What difference does that make? Whatever the number is far too many.
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There’s never too many abortions, just too many people.
 
WCH said:
If you support abortion for convenience, you are pro-abortion. Murder is a deadly sin.
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Good thing abortion isn’t murder then
 
WCH said:
That's one of my problems with sects and churches. Therefore we don't attend any. Hell and damnation, gay marriage, etc. are also sticking points.

What we believe is generally a straight personal interpretation from the Holy Bible....no middle men
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The Bible encourages abortion. Read numbers
 
year2late said:
So, if a poster said she was Christian and accepted Jesus as the Lord and Savior....do you believe she is Christian?
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We can say whatever we want to be. We are not the final judge.
 
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