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Re: Like taking candy from a baby

Iron_Merc said:
In fact she shared many common views with Hilter, especially with eugenics and alike. Sanger would have fit in like a glove into Hilter's socialist government. Both were also drug addicts and very close to Lucifer.

This is just one reason why the left secretly loves Hitler. And that's not mentioning the fact that the radical left wants to see a genocide of jews and Christians.
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From an ethical mercenary, yet? (That's the poster's ID, yes?)

Can you even have a genocide of Christians? They're not identifiable by race nor by ethnic group.
 
Overitall said:
I think it can be used by the pro-life crowd also. The law recognizes that the fetus is a separate being from the woman. Otherwise why not just charge the perp for battery against the woman carrying the fetus?
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And yet it exempts abortion providers
 
Iron_Merc said:
1.) Dude are you seriously this confused?
2.) You do realize homicide is the act of one human (the abortion doctor) killing the life of another (the unborn baby)?
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aaand more deflections and dodged
1.) deflections like this again will only continue to make your failed claims look even worse. Its actually everybody else's LACK of confusion and understanding of facts and definitions that makes us understand the fact abortion =/= murder. This is further proven by your inability to post one single fact that support you. Why is that so hard if you are right?
2.) again my ability to understand facts and definitions is exactly what proves abortion is not equal to murder lol
seriously how old are you and are you from america . . "abortion = murder", "nurses and doctors using coat hangers" "abortion doctors kill the life of the unborn baby" nobody honest, topically educated and objective would ever say things so silly and factually wrong.

So once again, please post ONE fact that makes abortion factually equal to murder . . . . .one . . . . thanks!
 
AGENT J said:
aaand more deflections and dodged
1.) deflections like this again will only continue to make your failed claims look even worse. Its actually everybody else's LACK of confusion and understanding of facts and definitions that makes us understand the fact abortion =/= murder. This is further proven by your inability to post one single fact that support you. Why is that so hard if you are right?
2.) again my ability to understand facts and definitions is exactly what proves abortion is not equal to murder lol
seriously how old are you and are you from america . . "abortion = murder", "nurses and doctors using coat hangers" "abortion doctors kill the life of the unborn baby" nobody honest, topically educated and objective would ever say things so silly and factually wrong.

So once again, please post ONE fact that makes abortion factually equal to murder . . . . .one . . . . thanks!
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Ever heard of the 10 Commandments?
 
Iron_Merc said:
Ever heard of the 10 Commandments?
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aaaand another delicious dodge and deflection. Why cant you just simply answer the question. Come on teach us all a lesson. Prove facts and definitions wrong, post one fact that makes your statement, true . . .one. thanks!
 
vegas giants said:
And yet it exempts abortion providers
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That has already been agreed to. Not sure why you're repeating it. Still, in the Law that I cited the following is stated:

"A principle that allows language in law to not conflict with Roe, which logically should trigger Roe's "collapse" clause, was explained in Webster v. Reproductive Health Services, 492 US 490 (1989). Until such language becomes the basis for laws that specify penalties for abortion, the issue is not even before the court, of whether or not such language conflicts with Roe, and if so, which should be struck down."

Now, I'll concede that it's highly unlikely that RvW will ever be overturned but as a legal argument for pro-lifers I'm surprised this law has not been cited to overturn it. And in support of citing a fact supporting the notion that abortion is murder it can be (for the sake of discussion) if one really believes that a perp killing a fetus is murder and can be charged with such a crime.
 
Re: Like taking candy from a baby

southwest88 said:
From an ethical mercenary, yet? (That's the poster's ID, yes?)

Can you even have a genocide of Christians? They're not identifiable by race nor by ethnic group.
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Genocide is another word for massacre. So yeah, it makes perfect sense. Its no secret, the radical left LOVES Hitler.
 
Re: Like taking candy from a baby

marke said:
Some leftists admire her for what she did without knowing the damage she did to society as a whole over the long term. But others loved her for her rebellion against God and civilized behaviors.
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I think your frame of reference is completely wrong, as far as M. Sanger is concerned. Women in the US (& essentially in Western Civilization) were basically either their father's or their husband's cattle then, as regards their ability to plan for their own future. That isn't a good thing, it left women dependent upon the good will of the controlling man in their life.

But you're welcome to try to domesticate women again, although I counsel against it.
 
Re: I wish you much joy of it all

marke said:
There is no question in real science that an unborn human baby is a living human being. There is no question among real Christians that killing a living human being for bad reasons is murder. There is no question that dummass baby killing barbarians cling to court decisions as justification for overruling science and God.
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Nae true Scotsman, then, is it?
 
AGENT J said:
aaaand another delicious dodge and deflection. Why cant you just simply answer the question. Come on teach us all a lesson. Prove facts and definitions wrong, post one fact that makes your statement, true . . .one. thanks!
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Do you seriously see the 10 commandments as not evidence but a "deflection"? This argument is clearly over. You my friend are one brainwashed, sick little puppy!

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Overitall said:
That has already been agreed to. Not sure why you're repeating it. Still, in the Law that I cited the following is stated:

"A principle that allows language in law to not conflict with Roe, which logically should trigger Roe's "collapse" clause, was explained in Webster v. Reproductive Health Services, 492 US 490 (1989). Until such language becomes the basis for laws that specify penalties for abortion, the issue is not even before the court, of whether or not such language conflicts with Roe, and if so, which should be struck down."

Now, I'll concede that it's highly unlikely that RvW will ever be overturned but as a legal argument for pro-lifers I'm surprised this law has not been cited to overturn it. And in support of citing a fact supporting the notion that abortion is murder it can be (for the sake of discussion) if one really believes that a perp killing a fetus is murder and can be charged with such a crime.
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because based on honest legality there is nothing there that can be used to overturn it. The situations are not analogous or equal in anyway. It would be a losing battle because one involves malice and criminal intent and harm and a 3rd party.
It would be like arguing self defense or simply "shooting a gun" is murder, they are not the same thing on so many key levels hence any argument would fail when presented to anybody logical using legality.
 
Re: I'm just searching for clues @ the scene ...

marke said:
it does not matter how long an unrepentant sinner lives, if he dies in his sin he will go to hell. There are no exceptions. God is not impressed by human greatness or human evaluations of other humans.
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& speaking of not being impressed …
 
Iron_Merc said:
1.)Do you seriously see the 10 commandments as not evidence but a "deflection"?
2.) This argument is clearly over.
3.) You my friend are one brainwashed, sick little puppy!
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1.) this is a mistake you keep making. It has nothing to do with "me" it has to do with facts, definitions and realty. Theres nothing in the ten commandment that makes abortion factually or logically equal to murder. If you disagree simply point those facts out. You will fail again like all your other failed attempts.
2.) There never was an "argument", again a mistake you keep making. The statement you made that abortion is equal to murder was factually wrong when you made it over 100 posts ago and that fact still remains true. This fact will not change. :shrug:
3.) again failed personal attacks only further expose your inability to post one fact that supports your failed and exposed lie and its hilarious.

please let us know when you can post one fact that makes abortion equal to murder. thanks!
 
AGENT J said:
because based on honest legality there is nothing there that can be used to overturn it. The situations are not analogous or equal in anyway. It would be a losing battle because one involves malice and criminal intent and harm and a 3rd party.
It would be like arguing self defense or simply "shooting a gun" is murder, they are not the same thing on so many key levels hence any argument would fail when presented to anybody logical using legality.
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Well, I wouldn't want to begrudge you of your opinion but there are legal scholars who disagree with you. I think I quoted (above) one.
 
Overitall said:
Well, I wouldn't want to begrudge you of your opinion but there are legal scholars who disagree with you. I think I quoted (above) one.
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They can disagree all they want there are "legal scholars" that claim many things, ill be sticking with the fact and basic logic on how the situations are factually different.
 
Like I said -- you're entitled to your opinion. I hope you'll be able to handle it should the facts ever get in your way.
 
Nolo

Iron_Merc said:
Actually, the onus is on you to explain why you think it's okay to butcher unborn babies... and then sell their bodyparts to the highest bidder.

You are sick man, totally sick.

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As we've explained here various times, fetal tissue can't be sold in the US. It's an automatic crime.
 
Overitall said:
That has already been agreed to. Not sure why you're repeating it. Still, in the Law that I cited the following is stated:

"A principle that allows language in law to not conflict with Roe, which logically should trigger Roe's "collapse" clause, was explained in Webster v. Reproductive Health Services, 492 US 490 (1989). Until such language becomes the basis for laws that specify penalties for abortion, the issue is not even before the court, of whether or not such language conflicts with Roe, and if so, which should be struck down."

Now, I'll concede that it's highly unlikely that RvW will ever be overturned but as a legal argument for pro-lifers I'm surprised this law has not been cited to overturn it. And in support of citing a fact supporting the notion that abortion is murder it can be (for the sake of discussion) if one really believes that a perp killing a fetus is murder and can be charged with such a crime.
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The law is inconsistent. I cant see how it can be used to argue one side over another without ignoring half of it
 
AGENT J said:
1.) this is a mistake you keep making. It has nothing to do with "me" it has to do with facts, definitions and realty. Theres nothing in the ten commandment that makes abortion factually or logically equal to murder. If you disagree simply point those facts out. You will fail again like all your other failed attempts.
2.) There never was an "argument", again a mistake you keep making. The statement you made that abortion is equal to murder was factually wrong when you made it over 100 posts ago and that fact still remains true. This fact will not change. :shrug:
3.) again failed personal attacks only further expose your inability to post one fact that supports your failed and exposed lie and its hilarious.

please let us know when you can post one fact that makes abortion equal to murder. thanks!
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No. The fact remains, you haven't offered ANY EVIDENCE to show me that abortion ISNT murder. I guess when they rip the head off the baby while it's in the birth canal that would not be considered "decapitation" in your twisted little world? JUST WOW!

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Why don't you tell us why mother Teresa is wrong? Please, I insist.
 
vegas giants said:
The law is inconsistent. I cant see how it can be used to argue one side over another without ignoring half of it
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The law is consistent in that it recognizes the fetus as a human being which can be killed. Last time I checked to be killed is equal to being murdered. RvW is an established law which few are ready to legally tackle but a day may come when it is and I see no reason why the logic in this law cannot be used to buttress their case.
 
Overitall said:
The law is consistent in that it recognizes the fetus as a human being which can be killed. Last time I checked to be killed is equal to being murdered. RvW is an established law which few are ready to legally tackle but a day may come when it is and I see no reason why the logic in this law cannot be used to buttress their case.
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Check again. There are numerous examples of where you can be killed and it is not murder.

Murder by legal definition is the unlawful killing of a human with malice aforethought.


Abortion has never ever met that definition
 
vegas giants said:
The ones written by Christian politicians?
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No, the ones written by God and given to man for a moral code to live by.

Then again, the left has no moral compass so I can see why you think abortion is justifiable.
 
vegas giants said:
Check again. There are numerous examples of where you can be killed and it is not murder.

Murder by legal definition is the unlawful killing of a human with malice aforethought.


Abortion has never ever met that definition
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Vegas I'm puzzled why you would cite a definition supporting my position.
 
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