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Planned Parenthood admits selling baby body parts, reported in news story out Sept. 4, 2019.

marke said:
If there is one thing supporters of abortion will not tolerate that is for someone to show pictures of what really happens to little babies when they are butchered for the convenience of their mothers.
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Go ahead and show your pictures. I've seen them before and most of them are preserved specimens from medical school labs used for teaching purposes in obstetrics classes. The rest of the images have been edited by either Priests for Life, Live Action or Center for Medical Progress. CMP has nothing to do with medical progress, lied in order to get tax exempt status and was set up to do undercover "gotcha" videos of Planned Parenthood. It's run by the notorious David Daleiden and funded by the anti-abortion Life Legal Defense Foundation. Daleiden is connected to Live Action and Operation Rescue. Both organizations advocate and have committed violence against abortion providers.

So, yeah post your pictures. You haven't a clue what they actually are. All you know is that your anti-abortion information source told you they were photos of the terrible things that Planned Parenthood does to fetuses.

The real question is: why do you want to believe people that lie to you?
 
Mashmont said:
Yes. Planned Parenthood got exposed.

Planned Parenthood Exposed: Examining Abortion Procedures and Medical Ethics at the Nation’s Largest Abortion Provider | Committee on the Judiciary - Democrats
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This was a 2015 Republican generated investigative committee. They listened to 4 witnesses:

Fredrickson who gave testimony proving PP followed proper and legal procedures in donating fetal tissue and provided evidence that the videos done by Center for Medical Practice were heavily edited to imply PP sold fetal tissue for profit.

Lavatino: a doctor advocate for C-sections instead of abortion. His testimony did not show any evidence of PP wrong doing.

Staltenberg: a highly emotional testimony about her 3 abortions, how badly PP treated her and how she knows she was aborting a baby. She gave no evidence of PP wrongdoing.

Thayer: a short term employee of PP testifying that PP made money from selling birth control pills and complaining that PP held fund raising drives. She gave no evidence of wrong doing by PP

The hearings were run by Ted Poe (R-TX) a "birther" who attempted to force the VA to use only Christian prayers at the military funerals no matter what the soldier's religion was

The hearings would not accept the Daleiden videos because of the editing and because they were done without the consent of those being taped.
 
So, would you be willing to pay for the care and upbringing of said children if the parents needed help in doing so?

And if not, how is sentencing a child to poverty, malnutrition and lack of good education pro-life?

Would you also slut-shame a single mother? A rape victim? Would you say that the woman who dies in childbirth deserved it? Would you blame the parents for bringing a child into the world, unable to pay for it, yet you demanded it to be born? Will you hate the child for being born?

You do realize that you are creating and enlarging the class of citizens who use entitlements to get through the day...or will you cut that as well and call it God's Will?

If society demands that the child be born, then society must accept the obligation of helping to raise if need be. Otherwise, how can you call yourself pro-life? You are simply pro-birth, and a $hitty human being second.
 
marke said:
That is not true and you would know that is not true if you had read the sources I posted listing the facts.
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The sources you posted contained no facts.
 
marke said:
Planned Parenthood testimony under oath in court: "Yes, we have delivered fetuses alive and then cut them up and sold their body parts to the highest bidder in violation of federal law."
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Source?
 
marke said:
If there is one thing supporters of abortion will not tolerate that is for someone to show pictures of what really happens to little babies when they are butchered for the convenience of their mothers.
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If there's one thing that titillates and excites anti-abortionists more than anything it's fetal porn.

Imo, looking at gory pictures of fetuses doesn't stop women from having an abortion anymore than a pic of open heart surgery or a liver transplant prevents people from having one if they need it.
 
I can't read this stuff.

I don't know what's worse: the accusation that illegal trafficking is going on, or the possibility that all the trafficking is perfectly legal.

It will take a while, but future societies will look on us with utter disgust.
 
COTO said:
I can't read this stuff.

I don't know what's worse: the accusation that illegal trafficking is going on, or the possibility that all the trafficking is perfectly legal.

It will take a while, but future societies will look on us with utter disgust.
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Donating is legal.

Trafficking? :roll:
 
COTO said:
I can't read this stuff.

I don't know what's worse: the accusation that illegal trafficking is going on, or the possibility that all the trafficking is perfectly legal.

It will take a while, but future societies will look on us with utter disgust.
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Opinion noted
 
weaver2 said:
Go ahead and show your pictures. I've seen them before and most of them are preserved specimens from medical school labs used for teaching purposes in obstetrics classes. The rest of the images have been edited by either Priests for Life, Live Action or Center for Medical Progress. CMP has nothing to do with medical progress, lied in order to get tax exempt status and was set up to do undercover "gotcha" videos of Planned Parenthood. It's run by the notorious David Daleiden and funded by the anti-abortion Life Legal Defense Foundation. Daleiden is connected to Live Action and Operation Rescue. Both organizations advocate and have committed violence against abortion providers.

So, yeah post your pictures. You haven't a clue what they actually are. All you know is that your anti-abortion information source told you they were photos of the terrible things that Planned Parenthood does to fetuses.

The real question is: why do you want to believe people that lie to you?
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The public does not allow it. Congress would not even allow its own members to watch the video "The Silent Scream." News outlets don't allow it. Debate sites don't allow it. And Americans don't allow it. Nobody in Germany wanted to see what Hitler was doing to Jews and practically nobody in America wants to see what its baby killers are doing to innocent babies in America.
 
marke said:
The public does not allow it. Congress would not even allow its own members to watch the video "The Silent Scream." News outlets don't allow it. Debate sites don't allow it. And Americans don't allow it. Nobody in Germany wanted to see what Hitler was doing to Jews and practically nobody in America wants to see what its baby killers are doing to innocent babies in America.
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Oh well. Too bad for you
 
vegas giants said:
Oh well. Too bad for you
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Too bad for the innocent victims whose murders are hid in a closet where their screams will never be heard by people who actually have a heart and good sense.
 
marke said:
Too bad for the innocent victims whose murders are hid in a closet where their screams will never be heard by people who actually have a heart and good sense.
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Yeah....keeping down in there. Lol
 
vegas giants said:
Yeah....keeping down in there. Lol
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Don't worry. The devil and democrats will not let people with compassion take away their modern democrat right to brutally butcher babies for a multitude of selfish wicked reasons.
 
marke said:
Don't worry. The devil and democrats will not let people with compassion take away their modern democrat right to brutally butcher babies for a multitude of selfish wicked reasons.
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Oh good. Thanks. Lol
 
marke said:
Planned Parenthood in court: "Yes, we cut up living babies outside the womb and then sold their body parts to the highest bidders in direct violation of federal law."

Abortionist advocate: "Fake news, folks. Don't pay any attention. There is nothing to see here. Just ignore it and go about your business as usual."
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Care to back up the quote from "Planned Parenthood" with a court transcript?

Or is this just another one of your lies.

I believe in an earlier post you actually used the words "under oath"....so you must have the transcript somewhere.

I mean...unless you are lying again.
 
year2late said:
Care to back up the quote from "Planned Parenthood" with a court transcript?

Or is this just another one of your lies.

I believe in an earlier post you actually used the words "under oath"....so you must have the transcript somewhere.

I mean...unless you are lying again.
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Let me ask you this. What do you know personally from what is going on in that courtroom? Have you been following the proceedings? Or, maybe, do you not even care what the truth is about what is being reported in those proceedings?

When people ask me to post the information for them and then they reject that information, I get the feeling they do not want to know the truth. They just want to protect the crooks by clinging to the lies being offered in their defense.
 
marke said:
Planned Parenthood testimony under oath in court: "Yes, we have delivered fetuses alive and then cut them up and sold their body parts to the highest bidder in violation of federal law."

Abortion supporter: "This is old news and I will not be bothered by it or take it seriously until or unless Planned Parenthood is actually charged and convicted of a crime."
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marke said:
Let me ask you this. What do you know personally from what is going on in that courtroom? Have you been following the proceedings? Or, maybe, do you not even care what the truth is about what is being reported in those proceedings?

When people ask me to post the information for them and then they reject that information, I get the feeling they do not want to know the truth. They just want to protect the crooks by clinging to the lies being offered in their defense.
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You QUOTED a Planned Parenthood person and even stated the quote was under oath.

I find no such evidence. Since you apparently have access to a source for the under oath quote....why not share it? I mean unless you are lying again.
 
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marke said:
Planned Parenthood testimony under oath in court: "Yes, we have delivered fetuses alive and then cut them up and sold their body parts to the highest bidder in violation of federal law."

Abortion supporter: "This is old news and I will not be bothered by it or take it seriously until or unless Planned Parenthood is actually charged and convicted of a crime."
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marke said:
And, unlike Obama, Gosnell, Northam and other democrats, I do not want babies murdered shortly after the exit the womb either.
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Ahhh more deflection so you do not have to provide a source for a quote you said was stated under oath.
 
year2late said:
You QUOTED a Planned Parenthood person and even stated the quote was under oath.

I find no such evidence. Since you apparently have access to a source for the under oath quote....why not share it? I mean unless you are lying again.
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I suspect there are lots of things you never found. Nevertheless, if you claim ignorance about the facts then you should stop contradicting those who post the facts.
 
marke said:
I suspect there are lots of things you never found. Nevertheless, if you claim ignorance about the facts then you should stop contradicting those who post the facts.
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So you are lying about the quote. Noted.
 
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