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    Re: Planned Parenthood admits selling baby body parts, reported in news story out Sept. 4, 2019.

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    Let's see them. The truth is that a woman's hormones are all out of whack and it may not even be possible for her to identify her feelings. It's the same as giving birth, only the baby is not alive. It could be relief, it could be depression, it could be guilt, it could be anger, it could be shame.

    And I don't believe you have any numbers.
    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    You have a reading comprehension problem. I never said hormones made you unworthy of making any kind of decision. Read the post again.

    My wife didn't leave me to have an abortion. She thought it was too much of an inconvenience for her. We stayed married in spite of it.

    I am sick of this whole debate because of the misandry that she displayed and others display on this subject each and every time. So have your abortions, the world doesn't need any more selfish, cold blooded humans.
    You clearly are suspect of what you believe her hormones are doing to her.

    You brought it up. And it is not like we have not heard such crap before. Growing up as women were really breaking through the glass ceiling.....it was all the rage for men to talk about not wanting hormonally challenged menstruating and PMSing and pregnant women in charge of them.

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    Re: Planned Parenthood admits selling baby body parts, reported in news story out Sept. 4, 2019.

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    You have a reading comprehension problem. I never said hormones made you unworthy of making any kind of decision. Read the post again.

    My wife didn't leave me to have an abortion. She thought it was too much of an inconvenience for her. We stayed married in spite of it.

    I am sick of this whole debate because of the misandry that she displayed and others display on this subject each and every time. So have your abortions, the world doesn't need any more selfish, cold blooded humans.

    You owe Year2late an apology. She is personally against abortion but leaves the choice up to the individual pregnant woman.

    That is what pro choice is about.


    Letting each pregnant woman decide for herself.

    I personally would not and did not choose to have an abortion.

    I had 6 known pregnancies. I had 2 miscarriages and have 4 children who are now grown.

    I would not support a law or a country that did not allow women to choose a legal early abortion ( before viability ).

    On the other side of the coin...
    I would not support a law or a country that would force a woman to have an abortion even if the unborn was so malformed that if it survived birth it would cost the taxpayers millions of dollars in medical costs.

    That is what being pro choice is about...
    Leaving the choice up to each individual pregnant woman.
    When it comes to matters of Reproductive health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: Planned Parenthood admits selling baby body parts, reported in news story out Sept. 4, 2019.

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post

    You owe Year2late an apology. She is personally against abortion but leaves the choice up to the individual pregnant woman.

    That is what pro choice is about.


    Letting each pregnant woman decide for herself.

    I personally would not and did not choose to have an abortion.

    I had 6 known pregnancies. I had 2 miscarriages and have 4 children who are now grown.

    I would not support a law or a country that did not allow women to choose a legal early abortion ( before viability ).

    On the other side of the coin...
    I would not support a law or a country that would force a woman to have an abortion even if the unborn was so malformed that if it survived birth it would cost the taxpayers millions of dollars in medical costs.

    That is what being pro choice is about...
    Leaving the choice up to each individual pregnant woman.
    I don't need an apology, I just find it amusing that it was the opposite for me. I risked my health and well being to remain pregnant despite several major complications. Abortion was an option.

    But what people (not just men) do not get is that pregnancy can be amazingly stressful on many levels. When I had my complications, I had excellent social support . Excellent healthcare. I had no insecurity about how I would support my family. I felt good and was emotionally and physically healthy. When a woman lacks some (or frequently all!) of these resources she will not perceive abortion as a trivial inconvenience. People who think of those things as "inconveniences" probably were never pregnant in those circumstances. Most women who choose abortion are also struggling to care for a child at home. Being pregnant and caring for a child and being housing insecure and without adequate healthcare is no joke. Being pregnant in an unhealthy relationship is no joke. The fact that these issues are pushed off as trivial inconveniences is beyond naïve. Yeah...she wants to continue in school She doesn't want to be friggen homeless!

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    Re: Planned Parenthood admits selling baby body parts, reported in news story out Sept. 4, 2019.

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    ...Or maybe you could tell my friend who had had an abortion recently because of an ectopic pregnancy. I see her on facebook posting about her lost child.

    ...
    Women who have lost a wanted pregnacy due to miscarriage or a medically needed abortion often feel a great sense of loss.

    I had two miscarriages between my second and third child. My husband and I had looked forward to an addition to family.

    My first miscarriage was an early one , I was about 5 or 6 weeks pregnant.
    When I had my second miscarriage I was 20 weeks pregnant.

    That miscarriage was devastating to me especially since I accidentally saw my little misformed one when it was expelled at the hospital.

    My doctor later told me it never would have survived even if I carried it longer.

    Pathology told him it was malformed they could not even tell if it was a boy or girl.

    I had two more children after those miscarriages but I still feel loss.

    When a pregnacy is wanted and there is a loss of the pregnacy , yes the woman misses what might have been.
    That’s why most women until after the 3rd the announce a pregnancy.
    When it comes to matters of Reproductive health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: Planned Parenthood admits selling baby body parts, reported in news story out Sept. 4, 2019.

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post

    You owe Year2late an apology. She is personally against abortion but leaves the choice up to the individual pregnant woman.

    That is what pro choice is about.


    Letting each pregnant woman decide for herself.

    I personally would not and did not choose to have an abortion.

    I had 6 known pregnancies. I had 2 miscarriages and have 4 children who are now grown.

    I would not support a law or a country that did not allow women to choose a legal early abortion ( before viability ).

    On the other side of the coin...
    I would not support a law or a country that would force a woman to have an abortion even if the unborn was so malformed that if it survived birth it would cost the taxpayers millions of dollars in medical costs.

    That is what being pro choice is about...
    Leaving the choice up to each individual pregnant woman.
    She misread my statements (which were not even directed at her), period.
    “It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end… because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it’s only a passing thing… this shadow. Even darkness must pass."

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    Re: Planned Parenthood admits selling baby body parts, reported in news story out Sept. 4, 2019.

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Women who have lost a wanted pregnacy due to miscarriage or a medically needed abortion often feel a great sense of loss.

    I had two miscarriages between my second and third child. My husband and I had looked forward to an addition to family.

    My first miscarriage was an early one , I was about 5 or 6 weeks pregnant.
    When I had my second miscarriage I was 20 weeks pregnant.

    That miscarriage was devastating to me especially since I accidentally saw my little misformed one when it was expelled at the hospital.

    My doctor later told me it never would have survived even if I carried it longer.

    Pathology told him it was malformed they could not even tell if it was a boy or girl.

    I had two more children after those miscarriages but I still feel loss.

    When a pregnacy is wanted and there is a loss of the pregnacy , yes the woman misses what might have been.
    That’s why most women until after the 3rd the announce a pregnancy.
    Thank you for explaining that to dumb old white male me, I had no idea.
    “It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end… because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it’s only a passing thing… this shadow. Even darkness must pass."

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    Re: Planned Parenthood admits selling baby body parts, reported in news story out Sept. 4, 2019.

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    She misread my statements (which were not even directed at her), period.
    Nobody has misread anything from you, stated or implied.

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    Re: Planned Parenthood admits selling baby body parts, reported in news story out Sept. 4, 2019.

    Quote Originally Posted by weaver2 View Post
    Nobody has misread anything from you, stated or implied.
    Then you have reading comprehension problems.
    “It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end… because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it’s only a passing thing… this shadow. Even darkness must pass."

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    Re: Planned Parenthood admits selling baby body parts, reported in news story out Sept. 4, 2019.

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    She misread my statements (which were not even directed at her), period.
    You comment that women cannot identifiy her feeling when pregnant was comparable to blaming men’s rage on testosterone.

    It was uncalled for and way out of line.

    There was no misunderstanding on her part.

    We saw what you said and everyone reading this thread can reread it.

    Perhaps you need to reread it too.


    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    Let's see them. The truth is that a woman's hormones are all out of whack and it may not even be possible for her to identify her feelings. It's the same as giving birth, only the baby is not alive. It could be relief, it could be depression, it could be guilt, it could be anger, it could be shame.

    And I don't believe you have any numbers.
    When it comes to matters of Reproductive health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: Planned Parenthood admits selling baby body parts, reported in news story out Sept. 4, 2019.

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