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Paranoid Whackadoodles or Sane Realistic Americans?

Are these people paranoid whackadoodles or sane realistic Americans?


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Take the poll and tell us what you think. Are these two people in the video paranoid whackadoodles who are stoking fear to push their agenda/political party, or sane and realistic Americans? I voted paranoid whackadoodles stoking fear to push their agenda/political party.

 
Take the poll and tell us what you think. Are these two people in the video paranoid whackadoodles who are stoking fear to push their agenda/political party, or sane and realistic Americans? I voted paranoid whackadoodles stoking fear to push their agenda/political party.



So why aren't they more worried about miscarriages and babies killed in wars, which happens way more often?
 
So why aren't they more worried about miscarriages and babies killed in wars, which happens way more often?

....or, all the babies and young children who are unwanted and killed by starvation, drowning, being thrown in dumpsters, etc. I'd much rather have someone who does not want to be pregnant for whatever reasons be able to safely and legally abort the pregnancy. Of course ultimately, preventative birth control would be helpful to stop many of these situations, but i feel that these whackadoodles are against birth control too. :roll:
 
Take the poll and tell us what you think. Are these two people in the video paranoid whackadoodles who are stoking fear to push their agenda/political party, or sane and realistic Americans? I voted paranoid whackadoodles stoking fear to push their agenda/political party.



Well...I am not a mental health professional, so my personal opinion carries no weight in regards to the "scientific" term "paranoid whackadoodles." (A term which must of course have come from somewhere in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM–5) provided by the American Psychiatric Association). ;)

My lay opinion is that this couple hold extreme religious views on the subject. That they are quoting from, and interpreting the meaning of, terms from their Religious texts.

I don't agree with their interpretations. But I see nothing wrong in their spouting them; you know, non-violent freedom of expression even when I don't agree with what's being said?

I doubt they are going to convince enough people to change the law on a woman's right to choose.

I am still Pro-Choice, and nothing they've said convinces me otherwise. :shrug:
 
Well...I am not a mental health professional, so my personal opinion carries no weight in regards to the "scientific" term "paranoid whackadoodles." (A term which must of course have come from somewhere in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM–5) provided by the American Psychiatric Association). ;)

My lay opinion is that this couple hold extreme religious views on the subject. That they are quoting from, and interpreting the meaning of, terms from their Religious texts.

I don't agree with their interpretations. But I see nothing wrong in their spouting them; you know, non-violent freedom of expression even when I don't agree with what's being said?

I doubt they are going to convince enough people to change the law on a woman's right to choose.

I am still Pro-Choice, and nothing they've said convinces me otherwise. :shrug:

That's true. How does one know if someone is truly crazy and paranoid or not? I know some are as sane and sober as judge and know what they're saying but they do it for the money (lack of conscience).
 
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Blood rite? WTF are these people talking about? Are they saying that legal abortion is witchcraft?

I am voting that these people are wack. I don't think God is going to judge Americans based on who the president is.
 
Religious nuts, wielding the 1A equivalent of a super deadly, mass murdering AR15.
 
Take the poll and tell us what you think. Are these two people in the video paranoid whackadoodles who are stoking fear to push their agenda/political party, or sane and realistic Americans? I voted paranoid whackadoodles stoking fear to push their agenda/political party.
****ing assholes is the best description.
 
If a dad has NO say in the abortion of his baby I say that men should be able to refuse to pay for the kid if he doesnt want the kid. Fair is fair.
 
If a dad has NO say in the abortion of his baby I say that men should be able to refuse to pay for the kid if he doesnt want the kid. Fair is fair.

The man does have a say when he chooses to wear a condom.
 
Take the poll and tell us what you think. Are these two people in the video paranoid whackadoodles who are stoking fear to push their agenda/political party, or sane and realistic Americans? I voted paranoid whackadoodles stoking fear to push their agenda/political party.

Right now there are many many pro life people shaking their heads and saying, "You're not helping!"

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If a dad has NO say in the abortion of his baby I say that men should be able to refuse to pay for the kid if he doesnt want the kid. Fair is fair.
The genetic mother doesn't really either, save when it's in her own body. Should the parents use a surrogate, and the woman later change her mind, she has no right to terminate the ZEF, nor opt out of child support, any more than the father does. Likewise, a surrogate has the absolute right to end the pregnancy at any time. She might have to pay back any monies she's recieved but she still has that right.

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Right now there are many many pro life people shaking their heads and saying, "You're not helping!"

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Not helping what??
 
The genetic mother doesn't really either, save when it's in her own body. Should the parents use a surrogate, and the woman later change her mind, she has no right to terminate the ZEF, nor opt out of child support, any more than the father does. Likewise, a surrogate has the absolute right to end the pregnancy at any time. She might have to pay back any monies she's recieved but she still has that right.

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Im just sayin its the womans body and 100% her right to choose. And its the guys money and 100% his right to choose.
 
Im just sayin its the womans body and 100% her right to choose. And its the guys money and 100% his right to choose.
With that logic, then it's the guy's money and 100% his right to choose not to pay taxes with no consequences.

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With that logic, then it's the guy's money and 100% his right to choose not to pay taxes with no consequences.

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So its ok to kill the baby. But if a guy doesnt wanna be a dad and refuses to pay for it because she declined abortion now its a sin? Maybe its time for new laws like before the baby is born both people have to sign a certificate of non abortion + payment. And at this stage the woman is not allowed to abort the guys kid but hes also forced to pay for it.
 
If a dad has NO say in the abortion of his baby I say that men should be able to refuse to pay for the kid if he doesnt want the kid. Fair is fair.

How is it fair to the child?

And if the mother needs public assistance, it's certainly not fair to the taxpayers either. (She doesnt even have a choice in any states now either, it's not up to her...the state goes after the non-custodial parent).

Fair is both knowingly taking the risk of pregnancy and having to deal with the consequences. Both know the consequences.
 
How is it fair to the child?

And if the mother needs public assistance, it's certainly not fair to the taxpayers either. (She doesnt even have a choice in any states now either, it's not up to her...the state goes after the non-custodial parent).

Fair is both knowingly taking the risk of pregnancy and having to deal with the consequences. Both know the consequences.

Well sorry the woman has 100% control over her own body and I think the man should have 100% control of his own money. If the guy doesnt want a kid why would she be able to force this on him? Just because prophylactics failed? Thats not fair at all. Its his money and her body.
 
So its ok to kill the baby. But if a guy doesnt wanna be a dad and refuses to pay for it because she declined abortion now its a sin? Maybe its time for new laws like before the baby is born both people have to sign a certificate of non abortion + payment. And at this stage the woman is not allowed to abort the guys kid but hes also forced to pay for it.
You’re conflating separate choice and legal matters.

Women have absolute dominion over their bodies (same as men) and do not have to have a man’s concurrence to continue or abort a pregnancy.

As for support of the child, both “parents” are equally responsible for pregnancy prevention, and both are equally responsible for any failure of preventive measures. That is what’s fair and law.
 
You’re conflating separate choice and legal matters.

Women have absolute dominion over their bodies (same as men) and do not have to have a man’s concurrence to continue or abort a pregnancy.

As for support of the child, both “parents” are equally responsible for pregnancy prevention, and both are equally responsible for any failure of preventive measures. That is what’s fair and law.

Thats bull if he has no say in her body if he wants or doesnt want the kid then she should have no say in the money. Its her body and his money.
 
Well sorry the woman has 100% control over her own body and I think the man should have 100% control of his own money. If the guy doesnt want a kid why would she be able to force this on him? Just because prophylactics failed? Thats not fair at all. Its his money and her body.

There is a child...who the people who knowingly risked creating it are 50% each responsible for.

Are you saying the man didnt have 100% control over his decision to take that risk? If he doesnt want to pay...why did he take the risk?
 
There is a child...who the people who knowingly risked creating it are 50% each responsible for.

Are you saying the man didnt have 100% control over his decision to take that risk? If he doesnt want to pay...why did he take the risk?

If they used protection and it failed then the guy deserves to have a request for abortion and if the chick denies it then he is exempt from paying. Its his money to decide with just like its her body to decide with. This is the only equal way.
 
If they used protection and it failed then the guy deserves to have a request for abortion and if the chick denies it then he is exempt from paying. Its his money to decide with just like its her body to decide with. This is the only equal way.

No he doesnt. The law doesnt support any such thing and he knows it. He knows he has no control over her choice. And none over the laws for child support.

He makes his decision with 100% control over it, knowing all this ^^. So are you saying men arent capable of making prudent decisions in their own best interests?
 
If they used protection and it failed then the guy deserves to have a request for abortion and if the chick denies it then he is exempt from paying. Its his money to decide with just like its her body to decide with. This is the only equal way.

He decides what is best for his body. He can choose an abortion if he ever gets pregnant.
 
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