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Polls show highest level of support in decades for legal protections for abortion

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Support for legal abortion stands at its highest level in more than two decades according to a Washington Post-ABC News poll, even as numerous states adopt restrictions that challenge the breadth of rights established by the Supreme Court's 1973 Roe v. Wade decision.
The Post-ABC poll finds a 60 percent majority who say abortion should be legal in most or all cases, up from 55 percent in a 2013 Post-ABC poll, and tying the record high level of support from 1995. The latest survey finds 36 percent say abortion should be illegal in all or most cases, also tying a record low.
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Polls show highest level of support in decades for legal protections for abortion | OregonLive.com


The push by some very conservative states to try to pass laws restricting abortions has helped bring back up the level of support for Protections for legal abortions.
 
As I said before, that’s nice and all but it actually has to translate into an electoral reality.

Now people on the other side of the coin are less likely to vote on the basis of Abortion rights alone and the fact still remains that Evangelical Christians are shot for shot one of the most reliable voting bases in the entire body politic.

Until religious authoritarianism is made a losing issue in elections, the attacks on women’s bodily sovereignty will unfortunately continue.
 
Jetboogieman said:
As I said before, that’s nice and all but it actually has to translate into an electoral reality.

Now people on the other side of the coin are less likely to vote on the basis of Abortion rights alone and the fact still remains that Evangelical Christians are shot for shot one of the most reliable voting bases in the entire body politic.

Until religious authoritarianism is made a losing issue in elections, the attacks on women’s bodily sovereignty will unfortunately continue.
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Are there Christian groups like them in Canada
 
SheWolf said:
Are there Christian groups like them in Canada
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Not really no, it lurks in the background of the Conservative party but rarely comes up Federally because it’s not a winning issue.

New Brunswick is one of the only places where there’s a bit of an issue as far as I’m aware with somewhat restrictive laws and sometimes when I was younger there were people who regularly used to stand on the side of the road with Anti-Abortion placards but that’s about it.
 
Jetboogieman said:
As I said before, that’s nice and all but it actually has to translate into an electoral reality.

Now people on the other side of the coin are less likely to vote on the basis of Abortion rights alone and the fact still remains that Evangelical Christians are shot for shot one of the most reliable voting bases in the entire body politic.

Until religious authoritarianism is made a losing issue in elections, the attacks on women’s bodily sovereignty will unfortunately continue.
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Women's body sovereignty? You do know that a baby is its own body right?
 
Sheepdog said:
Women's body sovereignty? You do know that a baby is its own body right?
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The Jewish religion does not believe that.

Here is a quote from another member of the DP

Marxistleninist said:
Anti choice laws are a threat to my religious freedom as a Jew … because according to classical Jewish text and most rabbinic interpreters, a developing embryo or fetus is not ‘an unborn child’ or ‘person,’ but has the legal status of an appendage of the pregnant woman. It is part of her body, not a separate person, until the moment that a majority of a viable baby capable of independent life has been born.”
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https://www.debatepolitics.com/abor...ion-pro-abortion-types-22.html#post1070134451
 
Jetboogieman said:
Not really no, it lurks in the background of the Conservative party but rarely comes up Federally because it’s not a winning issue.

New Brunswick is one of the only places where there’s a bit of an issue as far as I’m aware with somewhat restrictive laws and sometimes when I was younger there were people who regularly used to stand on the side of the road with Anti-Abortion placards but that’s about it.
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The hospital in my area that does abortions gets protesters once or twice a year, but that's about it. It's usually pretty quiet. Ontario has a 500 metre buffer zone around clinics where they cannot protest.

Toronto does have some incidents of violence at protests, initiated by *both* sides. I do not support violence by either side.
 
Scrabaholic said:
Zefs are not people and abortion is not murder.
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Its a growing human with unique DNA as is just as much a person and you or I. Not my fault you dont understand biology. Liberals are anti-science and pro-murder, hell of a crowd.
 
minnie616 said:
From the following link:


Polls show highest level of support in decades for legal protections for abortion | OregonLive.com


The push by some very conservative states to try to pass laws restricting abortions has helped bring back up the level of support for Protections for legal abortions.
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I think a lot of young women who didn't grow up during the early fight for legal abortions have thought that abortion was certainly going to be available if and whenever they might need it. This latest round of religious conservative insanity has been a wake up call. They realize now that keeping abortion legal needs their political support.
 
Sheepdog said:
Who gives a ****? You dont get to murder people even if you are a jew.
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You fling around the terms "murder' and "murderer" with abandon and little understanding of embryology, demographics, or abortion . You call fetuses and embryos innocent little unborn babies. But when it comes to late term abortions you want the real term used because it is descriptive of something you think women should be against. Why such dichotomy? LOL
 
minnie616 said:
From the following link:


Polls show highest level of support in decades for legal protections for abortion | OregonLive.com


The push by some very conservative states to try to pass laws restricting abortions has helped bring back up the level of support for Protections for legal abortions.
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I’m in favor of abortion rights. There are too many people that should never be allowed to have kids. They can’t take care of themselves let alone a kid.
However I do not support late term abortions. Was that question part of the poll? Do people support late term abortions?
 
weaver2 said:
You fling around the terms "murder' and "murderer" with abandon and little understanding of embryology, demographics, or abortion . You call fetuses and embryos innocent little unborn babies. But when it comes to late term abortions you want the real term used because it is descriptive of something you think women should be against. Why such dichotomy? LOL
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Calling them a fetus or an embryo is just a way to keep people supporting the sickening murderous practice of abortion. Its just word play.

Every honest person knows that its a growing human baby. But I support Planned Parenthood because they are doing excellent work in the inner city...wish they would do more in those areas honestly.
 
Sheepdog said:
Calling them a fetus or an embryo is just a way to keep people supporting the sickening murderous practice of abortion. Its just word play.

Every honest person knows that its a growing human baby. But I support Planned Parenthood because they are doing excellent work in the inner city...wish they would do more in those areas honestly.
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:lamo :lamo :lamo

You mean calling it what it scientifically is names is supporting the practice of abortion.

And there are loads of illogical things in your post:

1. we do not support abortion, we have no views on abortion because that is every persons own decision to make

2. we support the freedom of choice

3. we support lowering the abortion rate without limiting a woman's freedom to choose

4. abortion is not murder

5. the people most guilty of playing word games are the pro-lifers

6. it is not a baby, it is a ZEF, call things like they are scientifically named, baby's are born, not a few cells in the fallopian tube, a few cells in the uterine wall or a zygote, embryo or fetus. None of those is a fetus, when the fetus is outside of the womb then and only then is it a baby.
 
Peter King said:
You mean calling it what it scientifically is names is supporting the practice of abortion.

And there are loads of illogical things in your post:

1. we do not support abortion, we have no views on abortion because that is every persons own decision to make

2. we support the freedom of choice

3. we support lowering the abortion rate without limiting a woman's freedom to choose

4. abortion is not murder

5. the people most guilty of playing word games are the pro-lifers

6. it is not a baby, it is a ZEF, call things like they are scientifically named, baby's are born, not a few cells in the fallopian tube, a few cells in the uterine wall or a zygote, embryo or fetus. None of those is a fetus, when the fetus is outside of the womb then and only then is it a baby.
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Does it or does it not have unique human DNA?
 
Peter King said:
:lamo :lamo :lamo

You mean calling it what it scientifically is names is supporting the practice of abortion.

And there are loads of illogical things in your post:

1. we do not support abortion, we have no views on abortion because that is every persons own decision to make

2. we support the freedom of choice

3. we support lowering the abortion rate without limiting a woman's freedom to choose

4. abortion is not murder

5. the people most guilty of playing word games are the pro-lifers

6. it is not a baby, it is a ZEF, call things like they are scientifically named, baby's are born, not a few cells in the fallopian tube, a few cells in the uterine wall or a zygote, embryo or fetus. None of those is a fetus, when the fetus is outside of the womb then and only then is it a baby.
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If you don't believe a fetus is a life with value, why do you care about lowering the abortion rate? Freudian slip?
 
Sheepdog said:
Of course you wont answer that question.
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In the past I have answered this many times, still does not have any relevance on this issue.

If it is an a woman's womb it is pretty sure the ZEF has human DNA. But again, anything in our body has human DNA but it has no bearing on the right of women to decide what happens in their own wombs.
 
Peter King said:
In the past I have answered this many times, still does not have any relevance on this issue.

If it is an a woman's womb it is pretty sure the ZEF has human DNA. But again, anything in our body has human DNA but it has no bearing on the right of women to decide what happens in their own wombs.
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That is a lot of words to just say YES.

Yes it has human DNA, its a human. An abortion is the murder of a human. Its not any more complicated than that. And just like anyone else, unless that human presents an imminent threat of death or great bodily injury, you do not have the legal right to kill it.

Abortion is murder.
 
SheWolf said:
Are there Christian groups like them in Canada
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There are a few Evangelical Christians in Sweden but they are certainly not a voting base. I think the same is probably true in Canada - it is in Quebec, the province I know best.
 
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