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Abortion Is Against Science And Common Sense, Its Murder

marke said:
Like ancient support for the "Great Goddess Diana of the Ephesians" (Acts 19:28), modern support for the Darwin devil and his erroneous suppositions have reached a fevered pitch, with loud cries of "Great is the evidence for evolution!" Of course that is not true but you cannot tell deluded followers of false gods and false teachings that.
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And yet, you still have ZERO proof.

Lursa said:
It all amounts to hundreds of times more evidence than a flying spaghetti monster like you imagine.

(and your info is so woefully wrong it's not worth arguing.)
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DebateChallenge said:
Abortion is against science and its against common sense, its murder plain and simple. We need to ban it altogether, this article hits the nail right on the head.
Penny Nance: World'''s tiniest surviving preemie shows abortion isn’t in line with science or common sense | Fox News
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year2late said:
And here is the original post on this thread.

A woman delivered a VERY premature baby. Other than extreme prematurity, it seemed not to have alot of the horrible issues other superpreemies suffer from (thank goodness)

Why is that baby alive? That baby is alive because she was fortunate enough to deliver at a hospital that is widely know for it's high level Neonatal Intensive Care Unit. That baby is alive because scientists and engineers were supported to help develop medications,equipment , and stuctures needed to care for these babies. The baby is alive because hospitals have oversight to help assure that baby's safety. That baby is alive because bright individuals were supported in there education. Doctors and researchers receiving public and private grants.
Hospitals receiving monies to keep open beds even when they are slow because bad things happen when we are least prepared. The hospital that kept this baby alive also stays afloat because many people who come through the doors are fully insured so they can pay the bills even when poorly insured individuals (medicaid) or uninsured are cared for.

That baby is alive because scientists and engineers were supported at every level of their education.

So when you vote for politicians that want to cut education, grants, medicare, medicaid, etc.....how do you think this would affect this hospital and how it would serve this super premature baby?
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I also would like to see the OP's response. Many people have contributed here and he has not responded.

I made this observation back on June 20:

Lursa said:
Why do you keep making new threads and then abandoning them without actually being involved in the discussion? What happened to your thread on 'travelling to have an abortion?"
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I would like to see the OP's response to the many answers he got regarding the claim in his OP...for further discussion or at least to respond that he's gained from the many different perspectives.
 
Lursa said:
I also would like to see the OP's response. Many people have contributed here and he has not responded.

I made this observation back on June 20:



I would like to see the OP's response to the many answers he got regarding the claim in his OP...for further discussion or at least to respond that he's gained from the many different perspectives.
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The funny thing is that the original post was intended to be some kind of abortion debate. When the clearly relevant takeaway is availability of proper healthcare.

Yet time and time again....the very party who pushes for maintaining pregnancy completely and utterly drops the ball on health care.

The baby that was saved by modern medicine (see original article) was not saved by god or a miracle. It was our tax money at work supporting research and medical care and facilities. Funding of scholarships and grants in order to keep advanced education in financial reach, Nurses, doctors, dieticians, respiratory therapists, researchers, mechanics, pharmacists helped save that child.

Even having higher amounts of insured individuals helps that hospital survive to save that baby.
 
year2late said:
The funny thing is that the original post was intended to be some kind of abortion debate. When the clearly relevant takeaway is availability of proper healthcare.
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DebateChallenge said:
Abortion is against science and its against common sense, its murder plain and simple. We need to ban it altogether, this article hits the nail right on the head.
Penny Nance: World'''s tiniest surviving preemie shows abortion isn’t in line with science or common sense | Fox News
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year2late said:
Yet time and time again....the very party who pushes for maintaining pregnancy completely and utterly drops the ball on health care.

The baby that was saved by modern medicine (see original article) was not saved by god or a miracle. It was our tax money at work supporting research and medical care and facilities. Funding of scholarships and grants in order to keep advanced education in financial reach, Nurses, doctors, dieticians, respiratory therapists, researchers, mechanics, pharmacists helped save that child.

Even having higher amounts of insured individuals helps that hospital survive to save that baby.
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Agreed. Some great points have come out on the OP subject...yet there's no acknowledgement, no debate from the OP. I would be interested in his current view.
 
It would be nice if the OP would return to acknowledge the responses and answers he received. I'd like to find out what he learned here, if anything.


year2late said:
The funny thing is that the original post was intended to be some kind of abortion debate. When the clearly relevant takeaway is availability of proper healthcare.
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DebateChallenge said:
Abortion is against science and its against common sense, its murder plain and simple. We need to ban it altogether, this article hits the nail right on the head.
Penny Nance: World'''s tiniest surviving preemie shows abortion isn’t in line with science or common sense | Fox News
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year2late said:
Yet time and time again....the very party who pushes for maintaining pregnancy completely and utterly drops the ball on health care.

The baby that was saved by modern medicine (see original article) was not saved by god or a miracle. It was our tax money at work supporting research and medical care and facilities. Funding of scholarships and grants in order to keep advanced education in financial reach, Nurses, doctors, dieticians, respiratory therapists, researchers, mechanics, pharmacists helped save that child.

Even having higher amounts of insured individuals helps that hospital survive to save that baby.
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Lursa said:
Agreed. Some great points have come out on the OP subject...yet there's no acknowledgement, no debate from the OP. I would be interested in his current view.
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Lursa said:
It would be nice if the OP would return to acknowledge the responses and answers he received. I'd like to find out what he learned here, if anything.
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It could have been interesting...because the real takeaway was about the value of high quality healthcare. It is a core division between many on both sides. One promoted healthcare access to the born while the other side is about the fetus.
 
marke said:
Many 'proofs' have surfaced in the tremendous efforts by Darwin's disciples to prove his insane theory is actually scientific fact. Here are some examples: The Piltdown man, the Java man, the discounted horse evolution display which was a mainstay at the American Museum of Natural History before being debunked by later discoveries, archaeoraptor, ERVs, DNA, Lucy, Coelacanth, and hundreds of others which can be interpreted by Darwinists with bias and imagination as 'proving' humans descended from dumb filthy savage animals instead of from God, in whose image they were made.
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I'm curious. " If Origin of Species" is insane theory why do you have a hyoid bone? And where did we come from?
 
Darwin & evolution

marke said:
Many 'proofs' have surfaced in the tremendous efforts by Darwin's disciples to prove his insane theory is actually scientific fact. Here are some examples: The Piltdown man, the Java man, the discounted horse evolution display which was a mainstay at the American Museum of Natural History before being debunked by later discoveries, archaeoraptor, ERVs, DNA, Lucy, Coelacanth, and hundreds of others which can be interpreted by Darwinists with bias and imagination as 'proving' humans descended from dumb filthy savage animals instead of from God, in whose image they were made.
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Did Darwin have disciples? That's fairly blasphemous, & Darwin was a country minister, as I recall, hoping to make a quiet living in a rural Anglican parish.

In Darwin's view, humans are animals, closely related to the apes - with common ancestry back there a long time ago.

In the Christian view above, humans are not descended from … God. Humans are instead made things, made by God, just like the grains of sand, fishes, beasts, plants, & so on. It can hardly be otherwise, as Christianity claims that God made all things, existed/exists/will exist before & after the universe existed. Humanity is possibly in God's image - that's the claim from Tanakh & the Bible.
 
Re: Darwin & evolution

southwest88 said:
Did Darwin have disciples? That's fairly blasphemous, & Darwin was a country minister, as I recall, hoping to make a quiet living in a rural Anglican parish.

In Darwin's view, humans are animals, closely related to the apes - with common ancestry back there a long time ago.

In the Christian view above, humans are not descended from … God. Humans are instead made things, made by God, just like the grains of sand, fishes, beasts, plants, & so on. It can hardly be otherwise, as Christianity claims that God made all things, existed/exists/will exist before & after the universe existed. Humanity is possibly in God's image - that's the claim from Tanakh & the Bible.
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Humans are notorious for inventing truth which has nothing to do with facts. Just ask Joe Biden who defends 'truth' against facts.
 
Re: Darwin & evolution

marke said:
Humans are notorious for inventing truth which has nothing to do with facts....
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So you have read the Bible.
 
marke said:
God created humans with a hyoid bone.
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cried, "Dem dry bones!"
Ezekiel cried, "Dem dry bones!"
Ezekiel cried, "Dem dry bones!"
"Oh, hear the word of the Lord."

The foot bone connected to the leg bone,
The leg bone connected to the knee bone,
The knee bone connected to the thigh bone,
The thigh bone connected to the back bone,
The back bone connected to the neck bone,
The neck bone connected to the head bone,
Oh, hear the word of the Lord!

Dem bones, dem bones gonna walk aroun',
Dem bones, dem bones, gonna walk aroun'
Dem bones, dem bones, gonna walk aroun'
Oh, hear the word of the Lord.

The head bone connected to the neck bone,
The neck bone connected to the back bone,
The back bone connected to the thigh bone,
The thigh bone connected to the knee bone,
The knee bone connected to the leg bone,
The leg bone connected to the foot bone,
Oh, hear the word of the Lord!
LOL
 
weaver2 said:
cried, "Dem dry bones!"
Ezekiel cried, "Dem dry bones!"
Ezekiel cried, "Dem dry bones!"
"Oh, hear the word of the Lord."

The foot bone connected to the leg bone,
The leg bone connected to the knee bone,
The knee bone connected to the thigh bone,
The thigh bone connected to the back bone,
The back bone connected to the neck bone,
The neck bone connected to the head bone,
Oh, hear the word of the Lord!

Dem bones, dem bones gonna walk aroun',
Dem bones, dem bones, gonna walk aroun'
Dem bones, dem bones, gonna walk aroun'
Oh, hear the word of the Lord.

The head bone connected to the neck bone,
The neck bone connected to the back bone,
The back bone connected to the thigh bone,
The thigh bone connected to the knee bone,
The knee bone connected to the leg bone,
The leg bone connected to the foot bone,
Oh, hear the word of the Lord!
LOL
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:lol:
 
weaver2 said:
cried, "Dem dry bones!"
Ezekiel cried, "Dem dry bones!"
Ezekiel cried, "Dem dry bones!"
"Oh, hear the word of the Lord."

The foot bone connected to the leg bone,
The leg bone connected to the knee bone,
The knee bone connected to the thigh bone,
The thigh bone connected to the back bone,
The back bone connected to the neck bone,
The neck bone connected to the head bone,
Oh, hear the word of the Lord!

Dem bones, dem bones gonna walk aroun',
Dem bones, dem bones, gonna walk aroun'
Dem bones, dem bones, gonna walk aroun'
Oh, hear the word of the Lord.

The head bone connected to the neck bone,
The neck bone connected to the back bone,
The back bone connected to the thigh bone,
The thigh bone connected to the knee bone,
The knee bone connected to the leg bone,
The leg bone connected to the foot bone,
Oh, hear the word of the Lord!
LOL
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But they mocked the messengers of God, and despised His words, and misused His prophets, until the wrath of the LORD arose against His people, and there was no remedy. 2 Chronicles 36:16.
 
marke said:


But they mocked the messengers of God, and despised His words, and misused His prophets, until the wrath of the LORD arose against His people, and there was no remedy. 2 Chronicles 36:16.
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And you are the messenger of God?
 
Re: Darwin & evolution

marke said:
I have read researchers who claim humans do not have spirits and souls and they are adamant about that, poor souls.
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The cool thing about beliefs is that you are entitled to have them.

Just do not be surprised when someone else does not share them. Hell, Christians cannot even agree with each other on many issues. ;)
 
Re: Darwin & evolution

marke said:
Humans are notorious for inventing truth which has nothing to do with facts. Just ask Joe Biden who defends 'truth' against facts.
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Per Christianity? Of course, Christianity says it has all the answers, all the Truth - which are not discoverable by any human processes, but only by accepting God as the source of all. It's a neat argument, but doesn't explain why science didn't progress much in Western Civilization until the late Renaissance.
 
Re: Darwin & evolution

southwest88 said:
Per Christianity? Of course, Christianity says it has all the answers, all the Truth - which are not discoverable by any human processes, but only by accepting God as the source of all. It's a neat argument, but doesn't explain why science didn't progress much in Western Civilization until the late Renaissance.
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The world was stuck in the dark ages until the invention of the printing press and the mass distribution of Bible translations into the hands of common people
 
Re: Darwin & evolution

marke said:
The world was stuck in the dark ages until the invention of the printing press and the mass distribution of Bible translations into the hands of common people
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You do know before christianity it wasnt the dark ages right?
 
Re: Darwin & evolution

Quag said:
You do know before christianity it wasnt the dark ages right?
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Obviously not. Marke seems unaware of the great civilizations of the past.
 
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