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Abortion Is Against Science And Common Sense, Its Murder

marke said:
It makes more sense to me that God created matter and energy than that matter and energy originated from nothing with no help from anything.
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It made more sense to many people that the sun revolved around the earth and Christians persecuted those who looked at the evidence and said it was the other way around.
It made more sense to people that the earth was flat. some still cling to that because "makes more sense to them" than accepting reality.
 
marke said:
Fact: God created humans in the Garden of Eden. Foolishness: Monkeys gave birth to the human race.
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Please source the bold...let's see the proof.
 
marke said:
It makes more sense to me that God created matter and energy than that matter and energy originated from nothing with no help from anything.
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But it makes sense to you that God "originated from nothing with no help from anything?" :doh

:lamo:lamo
 
Quag said:
It made more sense to many people that the sun revolved around the earth and Christians persecuted those who looked at the evidence and said it was the other way around.
It made more sense to people that the earth was flat. some still cling to that because "makes more sense to them" than accepting reality.
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For both those who believe the earth is flat and those who don't, how do you think the universe got it's original start?
 
marke said:
For both those who believe the earth is flat and those who don't, how do you think the universe got it's original start?
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I dont know, neither do you. The difference is I can admit it
 
Lursa said:
But it makes sense to you that God "originated from nothing with no help from anything?" :doh

:lamo:lamo
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So what is your idea of a serious speculation? That nothing originated from nothing with no help from anything? Is that scientific, or is that a joke?
 
Lursa said:
Please source the bold...let's see the proof.
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You have proof that humans descended from apes? What sort of proof? Darwin's word for it? Some other speculator who insists DNA similarity proves it? Someone who has proven God did not do it, leaving them no other option to believe?
 
marke said:
So what is your idea of a serious speculation? That nothing originated from nothing with no help from anything? Is that scientific, or is that a joke?
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You didnt answer my question. But you still seem to *choose* an invisible supernatural being over the coalescence of matter and the processes generated from that...so...who believes the joke? Not me.
 
marke said:
You have proof that humans descended from apes? What sort of proof? Darwin's word for it? Some other speculator who insists DNA similarity proves it? Someone who has proven God did not do it, leaving them no other option to believe?
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You are so uninformed you do not realize that that which was theorized by Darwin has been proven many times over. Documented, identified. We dont need Darwin's 'word.' We have proof. Proof that you choose to disregard because it conflicts with your blind dogma.
 
Lursa said:
Apparently he doesnt realize that the science behind evolution has progressed far beyond Darwin.

Which would imply he believes that the state of flight has not progressed beyond the Wright Brothers :roll:
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I dont think he has any clue what evolution is.
 
Quag said:
I dont think he has any clue what evolution is.
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What always makes me laugh is how insulted such people are at the thought of being "descended from apes." :lamo

That that somehow diminishes them. :roll: How sad. They need to believe that God has elevated them above all else.

Me? I'm happy to be a part of the grander scheme of nature. My self-esteem and purpose in life is not reliant on my ancestry.
 
Lursa said:
You are so uninformed you do not realize that that which was theorized by Darwin has been proven many times over. Documented, identified. We dont need Darwin's 'word.' We have proof. Proof that you choose to disregard because it conflicts with your blind dogma.
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What kind of proof do you have that humans descended from monkey's uncles? Some African bones a devout believer in Darwinism claimed came from a missing link he claimed to have finally discovered after 25 years of searching? Never mind he collected the bones from an area larger than a square mile and ended up with less than 50% of the entire original bone structure, if the bones had even originally come from the same dead body in the first place.
 
marke said:
What kind of proof do you have that humans descended from monkey's uncles? Some African bones a devout believer in Darwinism claimed came from a missing link he claimed to have finally discovered after 25 years of searching? Never mind he collected the bones from an area larger than a square mile and ended up with less than 50% of the entire original bone structure, if the bones had even originally come from the same dead body in the first place.
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It all amounts to hundreds of times more evidence than a flying spaghetti monster like you imagine.

(and your info is so woefully wrong it's not worth arguing.)
 
Lursa said:
It all amounts to hundreds of times more evidence than a flying spaghetti monster like you imagine.

(and your info is so woefully wrong it's not worth arguing.)
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Marke doesn't have the sophistication it takes to revere the FSM.
 
Quag said:
Humans are not descended from apes.
Evolution: Frequently Asked Questions
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The 'truth' from a deluded Darwinian perspective:

Humans evolved from an animal not identifiable by the fossil record but which we claim is related to monkeys. We say that because Father Darwin said so and because his followers have spent decades trying to prove that. We have found some fossils which, when looked at in a certain way, might be assumed to have been some sort of missing link, which the fossil record has never given us but a few which can be interpreted as such though very badly preserved.

We also support Darwin's theory because we have found that human DNA is not too very different from chimp DNA, although millions of differences still exist out of billions which make up the total, and in spite of the fact that human DNA is also about as similar to chimp DNA as it is to mice DNA, and watermelon DNA is not lagging far behind.

We also support Darwin's speculation over what we are told in the Bible because of ERVs, which we have recently discovered can be assumed to prove humans are related to chimps, even though the assumption breaks down completely if gorillas are added to the equation.
 
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Lursa said:
You are so uninformed you do not realize that that which was theorized by Darwin has been proven many times over. Documented, identified. We dont need Darwin's 'word.' We have proof. Proof that you choose to disregard because it conflicts with your blind dogma.
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Many 'proofs' have surfaced in the tremendous efforts by Darwin's disciples to prove his insane theory is actually scientific fact. Here are some examples: The Piltdown man, the Java man, the discounted horse evolution display which was a mainstay at the American Museum of Natural History before being debunked by later discoveries, archaeoraptor, ERVs, DNA, Lucy, Coelacanth, and hundreds of others which can be interpreted by Darwinists with bias and imagination as 'proving' humans descended from dumb filthy savage animals instead of from God, in whose image they were made.
 
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Lursa said:
You are so uninformed you do not realize that that which was theorized by Darwin has been proven many times over. Documented, identified. We dont need Darwin's 'word.' We have proof. Proof that you choose to disregard because it conflicts with your blind dogma.
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Like ancient support for the "Great Goddess Diana of the Ephesians" (Acts 19:28), modern support for the Darwin devil and his erroneous suppositions have reached a fevered pitch, with loud cries of "Great is the evidence for evolution!" Of course that is not true but you cannot tell deluded followers of false gods and false teachings that.
 
DebateChallenge said:
Abortion is against science and its against common sense, its murder plain and simple. We need to ban it altogether, this article hits the nail right on the head.
Penny Nance: World'''s tiniest surviving preemie shows abortion isn’t in line with science or common sense | Fox News
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marke said:
Like ancient support for the "Great Goddess Diana of the Ephesians" (Acts 19:28), modern support for the Darwin devil and his erroneous suppositions have reached a fevered pitch, with loud cries of "Great is the evidence for evolution!" Of course that is not true but you cannot tell deluded followers of false gods and false teachings that.
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Care to get it back to the original topic? Baby Saybe who survived being born at 23 weeks gestation.

This baby's mother had life threatening complications and allowed a c-section to save her own life at a period of gestation that survival at birth was more than iffy.

A baby that is alive because he had the luck to be born at a hospital with a high level Neonatal Intensive Care Unit staffed with nurses, doctors, dieticians, repiratory therapists, pharmacists, etc that are highly skilled at what they do. A facility that depends on taxpayer dollars, grants, donations to survive. A facility that survives because enough people are insured that when those come in that have inadequate or no insurance, they can absorb the cost. High level NICU that is supported by advancements in science that allow these preemies to survive with less complications. The engineers and scientists that make life changing advancements that are privately and publicly funded.

Baby Saybie did not survive because of the Bible (although prayer doesn't hurt). Baby Saybie survived because decades of science that were privately and publically funded allowed it to happen.

Now, how do we get the superpreemies in areas without such high end NICUs to survive?
 
marke said:
The 'truth' from a deluded Darwinian perspective:

Humans evolved from an animal not identifiable by the fossil record but which we claim is related to monkeys. We say that because Father Darwin said so and because his followers have spent decades trying to prove that. We have found some fossils which, when looked at in a certain way, might be assumed to have been some sort of missing link, which the fossil record has never given us but a few which can be interpreted as such though very badly preserved.

We also support Darwin's theory because we have found that human DNA is not too very different from chimp DNA, although millions of differences still exist out of billions which make up the total, and in spite of the fact that human DNA is also about as similar to chimp DNA as it is to mice DNA, and watermelon DNA is not lagging far behind.

We also support Darwin's speculation over what we are told in the Bible because of ERVs, which we have recently discovered can be assumed to prove humans are related to chimps, even though the assumption breaks down completely if gorillas are added to the equation.
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We get it you dont know what evolution is you just repeat apologetic strawmen.

Once Christians claimed the sun revolved around the world based on their interpreation of the Bible and because it made sense to them.
Once Christians claimed the earh was flat based on their interpreation of the Bible and because it made sense to them.
Now you are claiming evolution is false and are basing that on your interpreation of the Bible and because it makes sense to you.
Do you hoenstly think that those who studied the bible long before you were born were just misinterpreting it but that you have THE correct interpretation of the bible and know the world is less than 10k years old and humanity has always been exactly the same since the literal dawn of time?

Are you that arrogant that you truly think all the Biblical scholars that were wrong about things in the past were just not as smart as you and that those who reject your interpreation today are the ones who are misinterpreting the Bible now?
 
marke said:
Many 'proofs' have surfaced in the tremendous efforts by Darwin's disciples to prove his insane theory is actually scientific fact. Here are some examples: The Piltdown man, the Java man, the discounted horse evolution display which was a mainstay at the American Museum of Natural History before being debunked by later discoveries, archaeoraptor, ERVs, DNA, Lucy, Coelacanth, and hundreds of others which can be interpreted by Darwinists with bias and imagination as 'proving' humans descended from dumb filthy savage animals instead of from God, in whose image they were made.
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And yet, you still have ZERO proof.

Lursa said:
It all amounts to hundreds of times more evidence than a flying spaghetti monster like you imagine.

(and your info is so woefully wrong it's not worth arguing.)
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