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Abortion Is Against Science And Common Sense, Its Murder

Iron_Merc said:
******Barren by choice******** NOT barren due to life circumstance BIG difference ==== my heart goes out to those women.
This discussion only includes women who have abortions and are subsequently barren by choice. By its very nature, abortion leaves a women barren. There is no denying it.

And that is the discussion at hand. Having an abortion can also increase risk of fertility problems in the future.

Abortion can also be defined as:
an object or undertaking regarded by the speaker as unpleasant or badly made or carried out

Sounds about right. Nothing good comes from abortion. It's the most destructive force in United States History.

You seem to be sociopathic about abortion. Does it not phase you to brutally and painfully kill a developing baby?
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/// Nothing good comes from abortion /// I personally know dozens of females who would have died had they not had access to safe and legal abortion.
 
Logician Man said:
:applaud:applaud
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Bravo, abortion makes women barren and there are no words to describe how many "barren" women who have had abortions would give anything to go back and have a child. And you and planned parenthood take that away. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Let me sacrifice my child to abortion because I have college debt. brilliant. absolutely brilliant logic. That's what the child would have wanted, right?
 
Logician Man said:
/// Nothing good comes from abortion /// I personally know dozens of females who would have died had they not had access to safe and legal abortion.
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Explain in more detail. I want to know specifically why these people would have died had they not had access to safe and legal abortion?
 
Iron_Merc said:
This is OLD. You are ignoring the last 20 years of Trumps life.

Intentionally. I've seen this kind of BS from you before.
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Of course it's intentional. The truth is Trump begged his mistress to abort their love fetus......or in your vernacular, Trump begged his mistress to 'murder their innocent, developing baby. " But Trump is still your man. Right ?
 
Logician Man said:
Of course it's intentional. The truth is Trump begged his mistress to abort their love fetus......or in your vernacular, Trump begged his mistress to 'murder their innocent, developing baby. "
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And now Trump is shutting planned parenthood down and talking about the dangers of infanticide in our abortion industry.

Get with the times, my friend.
 
Iron_Merc said:
Explain in more detail. I want to know specifically why these people would have died had they not had access to safe and legal abortion?
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/// I want /// And people in hell want ice water. It's none of your business how and why I know this to be fact. Deal with it.
 
Iron_Merc said:
lies!
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Yes. Trump has been fact checked for lying to the American populace close to 11,000 times ( just since taking office ).. But Trump is still your man, right ?
 
Iron_Merc said:
******Barren by choice******** NOT barren due to life circumstance BIG difference ==== my heart goes out to those women.
This discussion only includes women who have abortions and are subsequently barren by choice. By its very nature, abortion leaves a women barren. There is no denying it.
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Nope, lots of women that have abortions already have children or still have kids in the future, when they can.

Also, we (both of us) chose not to have kids. That doesnt require abortion. It means birth control, every single time for 13 years. You find that sociopathic? :doh I'm 59 now, never regretted it for a second.

Are men that choose not to have kids also sociopathic?

And that is the discussion at hand. Having an abortion can also increase risk of fertility problems in the future.
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It's a possible consequence, so? Women are responsible for their decisions.


Sounds about right. Nothing good comes from abortion. It's the most destructive force in United States History.
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You have been asked...and failed every time...to list the negative effects of abortion on society. Since you cannot, and you are aware of this, you are lying here.

You seem to be sociopathic about abortion. Does it not phase you to brutally and painfully kill a developing baby?
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You are lying again, because you have been informed many times that there is no pain or suffering to the unborn during abortion. 97.5% of all abortions consist of painlessly flushing a pea-sized or smaller unborn from the womb. All the rest are medically necessary abortions and the fetus receives...by law...an anesthetic/lethal injection. There is no pain or suffering or awareness at all.

You lie because you have no legitimate moral foundation for your pro-life position.

Lying is a sin, esp. over and over...I hope that you repent before meeting the Lord...otherwise...:shrug:
 
DebateChallenge said:
See the link.
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The statement "Abortion is against Science" makes no sense. Perhaps you wish to claim that science shows the ZEF is a human - or that a human exists at conception.

The above claims would be false but, at least one can make sense out of them.
 
Iron_Merc said:
Bravo, abortion makes women barren and there are no words to describe how many "barren" women who have had abortions would give anything to go back and have a child. And you and planned parenthood take that away. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Let me sacrifice my child to abortion because I have college debt. brilliant. absolutely brilliant logic. That's what the child would have wanted, right?
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LOL another man instructing women on what they want and what God expects of them. I think it's fascinating that men know so much about what women should be doing and feeling and thinking.. And the best part? They are so willing to share their knowledge with women.
 
Iron_Merc said:
Explain in more detail. I want to know specifically why these people would have died had they not had access to safe and legal abortion?
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Just a few cases where abortions save a woman’s life would be:

Ectopic pregnancies are one example. ( the fetized egg implants in the Fallopian tube ) without and abortion the embryo grows in the Fallopian tube , burts the Fallopian tube and can kill the woman.

Another Life threating pregnany complication are eclampsia complications, many survive the eclampsia but about 300 women in the US die every year from eclampsia complications.

Abortions can save the woman’s life or prevent irreparable damage of a major bodily function when complications of the pregnancy occur that would cause a stroke, heart attack, paralysis from the neck down, kidney damage or liver damage if the pregnancy continued.

And I told about the case of the woman ( a dentist who knew her life was in danger and begged for an abortion) in Ireland who died of a septic infection because she was denied a life save abortion since the fetus still had a heartbeat.

In the United States and most of Europe the standard medical care would be to start labor and abort a non viable dying or dead fetus before a life threatening infection could set in.

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Nine members of the Irish medical team that treated an Indian dentist who died after being refused an abortion have been disciplined.

Galway University hospital said the nine were part of a larger medical team looking after Savita Halappanavar before she died from blood poisoning in October 2012.

Halappanavar had demanded that her pregnancy be terminated after fearing the foetus was dead and likely to give her sepsis. Her request was turned down after medical staff said they detected a foetal heartbeat. She was 17 weeks pregnant and miscarrying when she fell ill.

The 31-year-old, along with her husband Praveen, repeatedly asked for a termination because they believed her life was in danger.
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Savita Halappanavar death: nine members of Irish medical team disciplined | World news | The Guardian
 
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minnie616 said:
Just a few cases where abortions save a woman’s life would be:

Ectopic pregnancies are one example. ( the fetized egg implants in the Fallopian tube ) without and abortion the embryo grows in the Fallopian tube , burts the Fallopian tube and can kill the woman.

Another Life threating pregnany complication are eclampsia complications, many survive the eclampsia but about 300 women in the US die every year from eclampsia complications.

Abortions can save the woman’s life or prevent irreparable damage of a major bodily function when complications of the pregnancy occur that would cause a stroke, heart attack, paralysis from the neck down, kidney damage or liver damage if the pregnancy continued.

And I told about the case of the woman ( a dentist who knew her life was in danger and begged for an abortion) in Ireland who died of a septic infection because she was denied a life save abortion since the fetus still had a heartbeat.

In the United States and most of Europe the standard medical care would be to start labor and abort a non viable dying or dead fetus before a life threatening infection could set in.

From the following:



Savita Halappanavar death: nine members of Irish medical team disciplined | World news | The Guardian
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In addition, most of the women who choose abortion are poor or working poor that lack decent resources. They can get emergency Medicaid for pregnancy ….but in many areas that will mean being relegated to understaffed under resourced that may be multiple bus rides away. Such an environment leads to making decisions during pregnancy that are less safe for her - and more to making sure she can make rent and keep a roof over her shoulders.
 
Iron_Merc said:
Bravo, abortion makes women barren and there are no words to describe how many "barren" women who have had abortions would give anything to go back and have a child. And you and planned parenthood take that away. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Let me sacrifice my child to abortion because I have college debt. brilliant. absolutely brilliant logic. That's what the child would have wanted, right?
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/// Let me sacrifice my child to abortion //// Just a little heads up. If you're truly dedicating your life to anti-abortionism, you really need to learn the basics. Lesson #1 for you. (pro bono )... It's absolutely impossible to abort a child.
 
Iron_Merc said:
This discussion only includes women who have abortions and are subsequently barren by choice. By its very nature, abortion leaves a women barren. There is no denying it.
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False. Many women who abort go on to have children in the future. And why do so many anti choicers whine about women getting multiple abortions. If abortion made them barren, they'd not be getting pregnant again.
 
minnie616 said:
Just a few cases where abortions save a woman’s life would be:

Ectopic pregnancies are one example. ( the fetized egg implants in the Fallopian tube ) without and abortion the embryo grows in the Fallopian tube , burts the Fallopian tube and can kill the woman.

Another Life threating pregnany complication are eclampsia complications, many survive the eclampsia but about 300 women in the US die every year from eclampsia complications.

Abortions can save the woman’s life or prevent irreparable damage of a major bodily function when complications of the pregnancy occur that would cause a stroke, heart attack, paralysis from the neck down, kidney damage or liver damage if the pregnancy continued.

And I told about the case of the woman ( a dentist who knew her life was in danger and begged for an abortion) in Ireland who died of a septic infection because she was denied a life save abortion since the fetus still had a heartbeat.

In the United States and most of Europe the standard medical care would be to start labor and abort a non viable dying or dead fetus before a life threatening infection could set in.

From the following:



Savita Halappanavar death: nine members of Irish medical team disciplined | World news | The Guardian
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Also, there are medical conditions ie. cardiac, that make pregnancy a very high risk. And cancer treatments. I knew a woman who aborted because she had to choose between that and chemo to save her life. She couldn't put chemo off for months without further risking her life.
 
Scrabaholic said:
False. Many women who abort go on to have children in the future. And why do so many anti choicers whine about women getting multiple abortions. If abortion made them barren, they'd not be getting pregnant again.
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Also many women who have a child have an abortion for whatever reason and then may choose to become pregnant and have a child later.
 
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